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Old 05-19-2008, 11:05 AM   #43
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I remembered that I read something recently that said the prices for crude oil is supposed to be around $45 -$50 not it's current price. and the price of gas without tax would be $1. Also these prices are really driven by these oil speculators. What we need to do is to threaten these so called speculators a bit or regulate them.
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Old 05-19-2008, 01:54 PM   #44
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thats not entirely true, take it frim a man who's lived and still lives it, me, alot of my friends..hell i make about 25k a year (working on changing that) but not everything written in paper is true,i'm not trying to get into an argument or anything, just kinda showing you life through my eyes
OK, I'm not saying this is complete reality. I simply repeated what CH said. But, doesn't it make sense that lower wager earners are most effected by the cost of gas? I'm not trying to place any blame, just commenting on the situation. Personally I think it's a shame that higher income earners don't adjust their lifestyles. Seems like they are letting money slip. I traded in a truck for a no payment used Tahoe that gets the same gas mileage. Largely because the total cost of operating the truck was near 800 buck a month. Now, my insurance has gone down. no more payment and the 2wd Tahoe gets better MPG than the 4wd truck did. I'm surprised more people aren't doing this regardless of how much money they make.

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I remembered that I read something recently that said the prices for crude oil is supposed to be around $45 -$50 not it's current price. and the price of gas without tax would be $1. Also these prices are really driven by these oil speculators. What we need to do is to threaten these so called speculators a bit or regulate them.
The speculators are a huge part of the crude oil prices. And they base this on a few factors. The stability of the OPEC region. How much oil is actually consumed or refined. How much oil is stockpiled. There are many other things they can use to set the price of crude oil. But the three I mentioned are among the largest contributors to our high gas prices. Iraq, Afghanistan, and Iran are all unstable, as far as the speculators are concerned. We couldn't use more oil even if they produced more so there is no increase in demand or consumption/refinement. And the speculators get real nervous when there are large stockpiles of crude oil waiting to be compromised by some disaster. So, if we want to see gas prices continue to climb all we need to do is start stockpiling oil that can't be refined that we buy from an unstable region.... If we want to continue to depend on foreign oil, the best way to reduce the cost at the pump is to increase our ability to refine more oil to gas...
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Old 05-19-2008, 02:20 PM   #45
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OK, I'm not saying this is complete reality. I simply repeated what CH said. But, doesn't it make sense that lower wager earners are most effected by the cost of gas? I'm not trying to place any blame, just commenting on the situation.
Absolutely, less disposable income and a higher percentage of ones total income going to pay for a higher priced necessity will affect the daily choices of some lower wage earners.
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This thread isn't funny anymore........
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Old 05-19-2008, 04:49 PM   #47
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This thread isn't funny anymore........
Agreed. While discussion of the causes and effects of high oil prices is engaging, the topic is Funnies: Gas Prices. Thank you for the reminder.
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Old 05-19-2008, 05:02 PM   #48
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Sorry, :(

I'm a party pooper....

And I did it in my own thread... What's up with that?
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Old 05-19-2008, 09:55 PM   #49
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OK, I'm not saying this is complete reality. I simply repeated what CH said. But, doesn't it make sense that lower wager earners are most effected by the cost of gas? I'm not trying to place any blame, just commenting on the situation. Personally I think it's a shame that higher income earners don't adjust their lifestyles. Seems like they are letting money slip. I traded in a truck for a no payment used Tahoe that gets the same gas mileage. Largely because the total cost of operating the truck was near 800 buck a month. Now, my insurance has gone down. no more payment and the 2wd Tahoe gets better MPG than the 4wd truck did. I'm surprised more people aren't doing this regardless of how much money they make.
The problem that most of us are finding is that your evidence for your argument is flawed... the income that is suggested must be for a household of 5 or something like that because i am a sinlge man making under 10k a year and i find no problems paying for gas... i live on campus at a school, so all my housing expenses except for food are paid for all at once, so i might not count just yet... i'll be in an apartment next semester though so we'll see how my financial situation changes...

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I remembered that I read something recently that said the prices for crude oil is supposed to be around $45 -$50 not it's current price. and the price of gas without tax would be $1. Also these prices are really driven by these oil speculators. What we need to do is to threaten these so called speculators a bit or regulate them.
did you know that if our government had let Shell oil company tap the Oil shale underneath the 4 corner states we could be selling oil at 15-20$ per barrel of better oil than all the OPEC countries combines right now? our gas prices could be down under a dollar if Bush wasn't in bed with the oil companies... There are 5 billion barrels of oil under those states... i say tap the shit now!!! it doesn't leave a scar on the land and we have the tech to do it WITHOUT strip mining it like they do in Canada (for the Canadians on the board I'm sorry if this is no longer accurate this was as of 2006). Why aren't we doing something with this NOW?!?!?!?!?!
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it doesn't leave a scar on the land and we have the tech to do it WITHOUT strip mining it like they do in Canada (for the Canadians on the board I'm sorry if this is no longer accurate this was as of 2006). Why aren't we doing something with this NOW?!?!?!?!?!
Still accurate, as far as I know. It goes from land that looks like this:
to something like this:


That little dump truck has 13' tall tires and is probably bigger than your house.



But non of this is very funny. sooooo . . .

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41 MPG!!!!!!! Well Done America!

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A recent study conducted by a university found that the average American walks about 900 miles a year. Another study by a medical association found that Americans drink, on average, 22 gallons of alcohol a year. This means, on average, Americans get about 41 miles to the gallon. Kind of makes you proud.


Some of us are required to go at least around 4.5 miles a week..running...
that would put me at 50 mpg, but since I try to use A-85 (alcohol 85%) rum and coke, mostly.... I may use less gallons than those who just use beer...
I say it is worth a few $$$$$ for a grant from the Dems to fund a study...
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A recent study conducted by a university found that the average American walks about 900 miles a year. Another study by a medical association found that Americans drink, on average, 22 gallons of alcohol a year. This means, on average, Americans get about 41 miles to the gallon. Kind of makes you proud.


Some of us are required to go at least around 4.5 miles a week..running...
that would put me at 50 mpg, but since I try to use A-85 (alcohol 85%) rum and coke, mostly.... I may use less gallons than those who just use beer...
I say it is worth a few $$$$$ for a grant from the Dems to fund a study...
That was pretty funny
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