Detailer's Bar

[13lstuner]

Originally Posted by menendez1293

Thanks, I will borrow an LED from a high hat on the house and try it out


Well the out rules the quartz lol. I Will try between the halogen which is yellow and a LED that is white. When I did my paint correction last year, it looked perfect in the garage but in direct Sun light I could see some swirls.


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Yeah it's always a good idea to check out your work in the sun. White LEDs should work great.

[menendez1293]

Originally Posted by 13lstuner

Yeah it's always a good idea to check out your work in the sun. White LEDs should work great.

If it isn't raining tomorrow then I will, but it is supposed to be raining pretty hard all weekend. The lighting in my garage sucks because of the ceiling so when I do detailing I need to have a secondary light.

Edit I just tried the tripod with the LED and I also have a LED mag flash light together they let me see them pretty good.

[13lstuner]

Just put in an order at autogeek during their 15% off sale. The code is FD15 and I think it lasts until 8pm tomorrow. Also free shipping with orders above $150.


Mostly a replenishing order.
Gallon of Meg's d120 glass cleaner
Gallon of Meg's d103 APC
20 pack of black nitrile gloves.
And full sized blackfire midnight sun paste wax. I just love how easy it goes on and comes off!


And finally I'm stepping up into the big boy game... A speedy surface prep towel

[JTruck]

Should have used detailers domain, 20% off and 120+ equals free shipping.

[13lstuner]

Originally Posted by JTruck

Should have used detailers domain, 20% off and 120+ equals free shipping.

Day late and a dollar short I suppose.

[JTruck]

Originally Posted by 13lstuner

Day late and a dollar short I suppose.

You should really come to me when you need to buy new products, I keep close eyes on sales

[menendez1293]

Originally Posted by JTruck

You should really come to me when you need to buy new products, I keep close eyes on sales

Gonna keep that in mind, want to get some small stuff in the future.

Oh and thanks for the tip on the LED, been working on the car the whole day and have the the front fascia, hood and driver side done. Tomorrow I will do the roof, rear and passenger side abd seal it up.

Here's a before and after picture of my rear fender. I'm not going for 100% as there are some deeper ones that don't really want to come out.





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[Wuiquen]

That looks much better...

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[13lstuner]

Originally Posted by menendez1293

Gonna keep that in mind, want to get some small stuff in the future.

Oh and thanks for the tip on the LED, been working on the car the whole day and have the the front fascia, hood and driver side done. Tomorrow I will do the roof, rear and passenger side abd seal it up.

Here's a before and after picture of my rear fender. I'm not going for 100% as there are some deeper ones that don't really want to come out.

Attachment 635078

Attachment 635078

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White LEDs look good. Good job man!

[JTruck]

Originally Posted by menendez1293

Gonna keep that in mind, want to get some small stuff in the future.

Oh and thanks for the tip on the LED, been working on the car the whole day and have the the front fascia, hood and driver side done. Tomorrow I will do the roof, rear and passenger side abd seal it up.

Here's a before and after picture of my rear fender. I'm not going for 100% as there are some deeper ones that don't really want to come out.

Attachment 635078

Attachment 635078

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Looks great, definitely night and day improvement.

[13lstuner]

I have to ask this question guys because I simply haven't researched it , and don't have a plausible way to research it myself.

Matt and jtruck say waxes don't layer.

Roshan an replied to a thread I posted on saying waxing once a month would cause cloudiness because of over waxing, but if waxes don't later how is that plausible.

How do you know waxes do not layer? Did you do a paint depth reading, wax, then do another reading and see no difference? I don't know of any other way to come to that conclusion.

Just using logic I don't see how waxes wouldn't layer. You are not disturbing the existing wax by using significantly more pressure than you would use with multiple washings and dryings.

I am not arguing either way, I am simply trying to better understand. Many things in science that make logical since end of being wrong. many of my hypotheses in my experiments have been completely wrong, so do not think I am imbedded in my logic. I just need some form of actual data as to what actually makes waxes layer or not layer.

[tramtwo]

... layer away... it can be done if all the stars align... not much to be gained really... the problem is that "most" waxes have solvents that will strip or partially strip the previous layers...clouding.. for depth I wax over a good sealant... if you use Adams do it the other way around

[JTruck]

From what I can remember, I can do some more digging if you like:

Todd from autopia did do an experiment with this and measured the thickness. In some cases layering one additional layer showed improvement, but anything more than that was more detrimental because of chemical stuff (don't ask me what) and friction. That was in some cases not all. As of right now the majority of what I have read about this is that it is accepted that rewaxing helps ensure you didn't miss any spots (which I think is hard to do in the first place).

In my mind when it comes down to science, I really break it down to elementary thinking. To me sealants are more rugged and form stronger bonds with one another which is why you can later them. Again, to me, waxes are weak in the sense of bonding especially when it comes from a paste form, layering is like stirring up a slurry of the stuff. That's what goes on in my mind.

Hopefully Matt can elaborate better.

[13lstuner]

Originally Posted by JTruck

From what I can remember, I can do some more digging if you like:

Todd from autopia did do an experiment with this and measured the thickness. In some cases layering one additional layer showed improvement, but anything more than that was more detrimental because of chemical stuff (don't ask me what) and friction. That was in some cases not all. As of right now the majority of what I have read about this is that it is accepted that rewaxing helps ensure you didn't miss any spots (which I think is hard to do in the first place).

In my mind when it comes down to science, I really break it down to elementary thinking. To me sealants are more rugged and form stronger bonds with one another which is why you can later them. Again, to me, waxes are weak in the sense of bonding especially when it comes from a paste form, layering is like stirring up a slurry of the stuff. That's what goes on in my mind.

Hopefully Matt can elaborate better.

Interesting. I will try and find that thread really quick.

Originally Posted by tramtwo

... layer away... it can be done if all the stars align... not much to be gained really... the problem is that "most" waxes have solvents that will strip or partially strip the previous layers...clouding.. for depth I wax over a good sealant... if you use Adams do it the other way around

On my car I've used a ton of stuff. Right now there is blackfire wet diamond and CG Pete's 53. I Rewax maybe once every two months. I'm not asking this question so that I can do this myself, I would just like to understand it better so I can make a educated conclusive decision.