Mustang Gets Line-Lock

[shaffe]

Well played sir^

[khell86]

Originally Posted by MikeSVX

LOL, sounds almost like Foerd supports street racing. That statement could get them in trouble.

They also state that taking it to a drag strip during a test n tune will not void the warranty, as long as you're not racing someone else during the pass. They're just trying to appease the lawyers.

"Racing" will void almost all warranties for almost all OEM's. Just how it is.

[45thCamaro]

Originally Posted by i2disturbedSS

Racing Your Mustang Will Void Its Warranty, Despite Line Lock

After noticing some fine print at the bottom of Ford's video announcing and explaining the line lock feature, which read "Racing your vehicle will void your warranty," Motor Authority decided to follow up and see just what that meant.

Basically, it means exactly what it says: race your Mustang and you can expect the warranty to be void.

But what, exactly, is racing? Brian Cotter, global Mustang communications coordinator, wrote via email, "If you are using this feature in an actual race (ex. at a drag strip vs. your neighbor’s Camaro) this would create a problem from a warranty standpoint."

Cotter further explained, "[T]here is nothing wrong with testing the capabilities of the Mustang in a non-race environment. You could, for instance, test your quarter-mile time on a closed-course. This would be permissible because you aren’t competing against any other car OR against a predetermined time, etc."

Still not quite satisfied, we asked for clarification, noting the enthusiasm with which Mustang chief engineer Dave Pericak and stability control engineer Scott Mlynarczyk when talking about the new line lock system offering a feature that allows Mustang drivers to maximize their performance at the track.

In the video, Mlynarczyk says, "We had one goal in mind, with the Mustang user who takes this to the track, and to provide a feature that we haven't seen out there in the field before."

Pericak adds more color to the idea, "Mustangs have a huge heritage of going out on the track. Our customers take it out on the weekends, they have fun with it. So, line lock is another example of where we're going to allow our customers to do what they want to do. They want to take this car, they want to go to the track, they want to have fun, and this is going to allow them to do that. It's going to be another advantage when you're on the track versus the [inaudible]."

You'd be forgiven if you heard that and thought it meant Ford had given its blessing to Saturday night grudge matches at the local strip. But you'd be wrong.

The line lock feature was clearly designed to help Mustang buyers to extract maximum performance "when you're on the track versus" just about anything. But using the feature for that intended purpose voids the warranty.

To be clear, simply using the line lock feature on private property, or even at a drag strip provided there's no competitor in the other lane or a purse on the line, will not void the warranty.

Cotter clarified in his e-mail, "Racing (ex. in a bracket-style competition at a drag strip) would be an issue; testing the capabilities of the Mustang at a test-and-tune day where there is no incentive for fastest quarter mile times (etc.) is permissible. You can have plenty of fun at a track without entering the realm of 'racing.' Issues would arise when you are specifically competing against other cars 'wheel to wheel.' Testing the capabilities of the Mustang is not an issue."


http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...pite-line-lock

This is the biggest load of crap. You can't try to beat someone's time, but you can see what your best 1/4 mile is?????

How could their PR people even allow them to say that. "Hey my engine blew up!" "Were you racing?" "No I was driving fast on the track, to see what the car is capable of. "Sorry sir but you were racing against the clock to get your best time, warranty void."

[Firefighter]

Originally Posted by 45thCamaro

This is the biggest load of crap. You can't try to beat someone's time, but you can see what your best 1/4 mile is?????

How could their PR people even allow them to say that. "Hey my engine blew up!" "Were you racing?" "No I was driving fast on the track, to see what the car is capable of. "Sorry sir but you were racing against the clock to get your best time, warranty void."

C'mon man! You know the Coyote motor is the best ever! They don't blow up! They are made from unobtainium and unicorn horns! They use the piss of virgin Dragon mothers for coolant and the lard of a golden sperm whale for lubricant and burn the semen of Oden himself for fuel!

This is a non issue...



In case you couldn't tell I'm joking around... lol

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[Firefighter]

Double Tap...

[Normagene]

Originally Posted by Angrybird 12

I haven't commented on launch control because I haven't really studied up on it any and I am not 100 percent sure how it is supposed to operate. I guess it is there to provide a more consistent launch with minimum wheel spin. Most people I have seen post about it don't like it once they have tried it...

Anyway my point wasn't ever them not including line lock at all, but the point is they are opening themselves up for legal issues in the future. That is all.....

I seem to be able to get off the line much faster (less tire spin) using launch control. Without it the nannies really bogs down the engine. Most FUN is to start using Launch Control and never let off Full Throttle. Red Line, and right into No-Lift-Shifting thru the gears. That way you stay in Boost thru each gear! I've tried turning everything OFF, and fagetaboutit, the tires spin just punching the accelerator, and its easy to get sideways, which ain't a good thing. So for me, an amateur driver, I like the performance modes and computer assistance.

[Fenderaddict2]

Love how Ford's chief engineer covers it off at 12:53...

[ChrisBlair]

Linelock, yeah yeah. For years Mustangs had vaporlock as standard equipment too.

[The_Blur]

Originally Posted by i2disturbedSS

Racing Your Mustang Will Void Its Warranty, Despite Line Lock

After noticing some fine print at the bottom of Ford's video announcing and explaining the line lock feature, which read "Racing your vehicle will void your warranty," Motor Authority decided to follow up and see just what that meant.

Basically, it means exactly what it says: race your Mustang and you can expect the warranty to be void.

But what, exactly, is racing? Brian Cotter, global Mustang communications coordinator, wrote via email, "If you are using this feature in an actual race (ex. at a drag strip vs. your neighbor’s Camaro) this would create a problem from a warranty standpoint."

Cotter further explained, "[T]here is nothing wrong with testing the capabilities of the Mustang in a non-race environment. You could, for instance, test your quarter-mile time on a closed-course. This would be permissible because you aren’t competing against any other car OR against a predetermined time, etc."

Still not quite satisfied, we asked for clarification, noting the enthusiasm with which Mustang chief engineer Dave Pericak and stability control engineer Scott Mlynarczyk when talking about the new line lock system offering a feature that allows Mustang drivers to maximize their performance at the track.

In the video, Mlynarczyk says, "We had one goal in mind, with the Mustang user who takes this to the track, and to provide a feature that we haven't seen out there in the field before."

Pericak adds more color to the idea, "Mustangs have a huge heritage of going out on the track. Our customers take it out on the weekends, they have fun with it. So, line lock is another example of where we're going to allow our customers to do what they want to do. They want to take this car, they want to go to the track, they want to have fun, and this is going to allow them to do that. It's going to be another advantage when you're on the track versus the [inaudible]."

You'd be forgiven if you heard that and thought it meant Ford had given its blessing to Saturday night grudge matches at the local strip. But you'd be wrong.

The line lock feature was clearly designed to help Mustang buyers to extract maximum performance "when you're on the track versus" just about anything. But using the feature for that intended purpose voids the warranty.

To be clear, simply using the line lock feature on private property, or even at a drag strip provided there's no competitor in the other lane or a purse on the line, will not void the warranty.

Cotter clarified in his e-mail, "Racing (ex. in a bracket-style competition at a drag strip) would be an issue; testing the capabilities of the Mustang at a test-and-tune day where there is no incentive for fastest quarter mile times (etc.) is permissible. You can have plenty of fun at a track without entering the realm of 'racing.' Issues would arise when you are specifically competing against other cars 'wheel to wheel.' Testing the capabilities of the Mustang is not an issue."


http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...pite-line-lock

Excuse my enthusiasm, but that's the largest bull turd out there. There's no way Ford can tell whether there's another car in the other lane without a thorough, and expensive, investigation. They will assume that a race is occurring every time the button is pressed or they will require customers to somehow prove there wasn't a race. Since the pool of people to be affected is so small, a lawsuit is unlikely to change the burden of proof to Ford. Also, quotes can be easily taken out of context, especially by automotive journalists motivated to get readership and links to their articles on every discussion board in the auto world. Ford is going to claim a race has occurred for every warranty claim after this button is pushed. We've seen it before on other cars from various brands, and this is no different.

[TheReaper]

Track Apps and a Linelock and you can't race the car ?

[Angrybird 12]

Originally Posted by TheReaper

Track Apps and a Linelock and you can't race the car ?

Sure you can race another car, as long as it's a ghost car...

[Normagene]

Think I'll make a few calls and get a price check for this mod. Gotta do a little more research on parts/installation. So many mods on the Wish List!

[Norm Peterson]

Originally Posted by calebparkin3

It has nothing to do with the car not being able to do a burn out. A line lock is a very common mod for guys that like to drag race. This just saves them from having to put one in. Line lock actually helps with wear on other parts of the car (besides the tires). It allows the rear brakes to be free (not holding the rear wheels, only holding the front breaks) and allows the rear wheels and tires spin with out any added resistance other than the road.

It's funny how on this site since the Mustang has it first it's a gimmick, but if the Camaro had it, it would be the coolest thing ever. It's just an added feature some will really like and others will care less about

This ↑↑↑.

Except for it being specifically a drag race oriented feature, its inclusion in the car is philosophically not much different from the Corvette's performance data recorder.


Norm

[STOCK1SC]

So basically if the Camaro had this it would be the coolest thing ever, kind of like the guys that ripped the 2001 Cobras for IRS and said how the Camaro was better because it had a solid rear axle then when Ford used a solid rear axle and Chevy used an IRS it was the best thing ever. Sometimes we need to look at stuff from other manufacturers and say hey that's actually pretty cool even if your own brand didn't do it first.