tint ticket

[stt816]

I appreciate the people who actually respect what I did...I am not a bad kid and they could tell that by my record, there was no need to do what they did...and I'm telling the complete story I have nothing to hide from you guys..

[Scrappy Doo]

If I had a nickel for every one of these "I know I was doing something wrong and got a ticket for it threads".........


1. You put too dark of tint on
2. You got stopped for it
3. You got a ticket

Life lesson here: You have to pay to play. If you feel like going to court for it, then go. That is your right to let a judge decide if you are guilty or not.

However, don't complain about the cop giving you a ticket for something that is clearly in violation of the traffic/vehicle code. It doesn't matter if you agree with the 30% law or not, still have to follow the rules. (If you don't like the rules, then contact your legislator and get the law changed)

[Wizard1183]

You had illegal tint. So you got a ticket. Being a smartass is not what got you the ticket. Im a smartass to many of them if they start to get arrogant. They cant do anything about you being a smartass. Theres no ticket for that. If youre doing something illegal, then you get a ticket for what you were doing or in this case had on your car.

[Devryn17]

Originally Posted by stt816

I appreciate the people who actually respect what I did...I am not a bad kid and they could tell that by my record, there was no need to do what they did...and I'm telling the complete story I have nothing to hide from you guys..

The problem is you believe people respect you for being a jackass. The entitlement generation.

[Titan]

Originally Posted by stt816

I appreciate the people who actually respect what I did...I am not a bad kid and they could tell that by my record, there was no need to do what they did...and I'm telling the complete story I have nothing to hide from you guys..

This is what is wrong with society today. You blame the police for your actions. You broke the law by having admittedly illegal tint and are offended when you got caught and ticketed. Cause and Effect pal.
I doubt you went to the police station to have the tint applied, so the only one to blame is yourself. Be a man, take responsibility and move on!

[stt816]

yeah because knowing my rights is doing exactly that right? lol you're hilarious

I AM NOT saying I should have gotten away with it I am saying that they were mad I knew my rights, they even asked me "who taught you that?"

either way I am proud of what I did, I am not some punk who will be intimidated for TINTS! really tints? that's what's making them pull me over lol, ill fight it and win no problem

[Gillis]

Originally Posted by stt816

I appreciate the people who actually respect what I did...I am not a bad kid and they could tell that by my record, there was no need to do what they did...and I'm telling the complete story I have nothing to hide from you guys..

Who respects what you did? What did you do to earn respect from anybody?

[DaemonGPF]

Having spent a lot of time in New Mexico where traffic stops are far from "routine", I was taught a number of "best practices" to abide by when you get stopped.

1) Park the car and turn it off. It shows you have zero intention of taking off on them once they get out of their car. Helps put the police at ease.

2)Roll down both front windows at a minimum (especially if dark tinted).

3)Keep your hands on the steering wheel so they are visible as they approach.

4)Yes/No sir is a good way to keep it professional.

You'd be surprised how a little bit of manners can go a long way. Sorry OP - but you were being a smart ass and you were caught red handed with illegal tint. I'm not in law enforcement, but regardless, if people are being a smart ass to me, rest assured I will reciprocate. These guys did nothing less than that.

They weren't taking advantage of you with the original request to roll the window down. Many cops approach from the passenger side anyway for their safety (as to not get plowed by passing cars). A lot of them have a fellow officer listen in and observe anyway as it's protecting their butts if you decide to go to court. Two people stating the same thing versus 1 to 1.

[Terryble]

Originally Posted by Devryn17

Not a hypocrite. Rolling down a window to keep an officer safe is a REASONABLE request. Submitting to a search with no probable cause would be being a hypocrite. GFY.

Either you don't understand the meaning behind that flag, or you don't know the meaning behind the word hypocrite, so let me enlighten you.

While there are numerous ways to view it, the basic jist is not giving up your rights to anyone for whatever reason. The word hypocrite is someone that pretends to have virtues that they do not actively posses.

You have openly admitted to giving up your rights, even if you deem is justifiable, while you wave a flag that promotes never giving up your rights. That sir, makes you a hypocrite.

I'd like to add another thing. Although they should be able to do their jobs as safely as possible, their job is not to be safe themselves. Their job is to defend public safety, and have been sworn to protect the constitution. Their safety DOES NOT come before the rights of citizens. Regardless of how reasonable you may think the request is. They do have every right to ask, but it must be a request. As with any request, you have the right to refuse. It doesn't matter if you just want to exercise your rights, or hide something illegal. You still have the right to refuse.

Originally Posted by Titan

Now fight a ticket in both instances-I would bet big money that even the liberal judge is not going to be sympathetic you saying that it was given out of spite. But please feel free to continue to do it your way, I am sure the cop on overtime at the court appeal appreciates you paying for their car!

Go back and reread, I did not say record it fight the ticket. I said record so you can file a complaint. Tickets given out of spite (with definitive proof) are a valid complaint. This one would've in best case scenario given him a free vacation (paid administrative leave) but more likely he wouldn't even hear about it. However, enough valid complaints and he will lose his job. We don't need power hungry a-holes running around thinking they own the streets as cops. They are supposed to protect us, not harass us.

[stt816]

there is no need to fully open the window if you do not please, plain and simple...it might end you up with a ticket, but so be it if you plan to exercise your rights, which I have done. I had no attitude with them.

[PAUL SS]

Maybe the cop really asked you to roll down the window so he couldn't see the tint and would not be compelled to ticket you. By only lowering the window a little you actually forced his hand. Just a thought, I have heard of LEO's making requests that if followed removes the "problem" and they let you off.

[Devryn17]

Originally Posted by Terryble

Either you don't understand the meaning behind that flag, or you don't know the meaning behind the word hypocrite, so let me enlighten you.

While there are numerous ways to view it, the basic jist is not giving up your rights to anyone for whatever reason. The word hypocrite is someone that pretends to have virtues that they do not actively posses.

You have openly admitted to giving up your rights, even if you deem is justifiable, while you wave a flag that promotes never giving up your rights. That sir, makes you a hypocrite.

I'd like to add another thing. Although they should be able to do their jobs as safely as possible, their job is not to be safe themselves. Their job is to defend public safety, and have been sworn to protect the constitution. Their safety DOES NOT come before the rights of citizens. Regardless of how reasonable you may think the request is. They do have every right to ask, but it must be a request. As with any request, you have the right to refuse. It doesn't matter if you just want to exercise your rights, or hide something illegal. You still have the right to refuse.





Go back and reread, I did not say record it fight the ticket. I said record so you can file a complaint. Tickets given out of spite (with definitive proof) are a valid complaint. This one would've in best case scenario given him a free vacation (paid administrative leave) but more likely he wouldn't even hear about it. However, enough valid complaints and he will lose his job. We don't need power hungry a-holes running around thinking they own the streets as cops. They are supposed to protect us, not harass us.

You're talking about my Texas story? I was a kid. I had no political affiliation. I didn't even know enough about what I could and couldn't do (public school is intentionally vague about rights)...So comparing my reaction when I was 20 to now is ludicrous. That was 15 years ago. Rolling down windows you know are illegally tinted to make an officer at ease so he doesn't issue you a ticket is COMMON SENSE. So stop being a ****wit and move along.

[Titan]

Originally Posted by stt816

yeah because knowing my rights is doing exactly that right? lol you're hilarious

I AM NOT saying I should have gotten away with it I am saying that they were mad I knew my rights, they even asked me "who taught you that?"

either way I am proud of what I did, I am not some punk who will be intimidated for TINTS! really tints? that's what's making them pull me over lol, ill fight it and win no problem

Whatever kid, if these comments are indicative of your attitude while your interaction with the police, you are indeed some punk kid that has a misconception of reality. Either your tint is in compliance or not, it has nothing to do with the conduct of the officer. Enjoy paying this ticket when you lose your appeal!

[HDRDTD]

A: it doesn't really matter what your records shows, at the beginning of a stop, It's more about the cop's perceived attitude of the person they have just stopped. A person can have a spotless record, but can still be a criminal, a drug user, or just an jerk. At this point they just don't know.

B: when they first pull someone over, odds are they haven't had a chance yet to run your record.

Were you within your rights to do what you did? probably.

is there a chance that if you fight it and go to court you can get the ticket dismissed or reduced, sure.

Sooner or later you will have to decide when something like this happens again, whether sticking to your rights/principles is worth it or not. That's always a tough call.

In my much younger days, we all used to cruise a local street and hang out in a big parking lot. The cops would come and chase us out, so we'd just drive a mile down the road across the city line and park in another shopping center. The cops would come, etc, etc.

One night, as we were in one of the parking lots, the cops came, chasing everyone out, and handing out loitering tickets.

At the time, loitering tickets was a $25 fine, and we all had to show up in court for the offense. Most of us just pled guilty, paid the $25 and went on our way. Others decided, no, they were going to plead not guilty and fight the ticket. At that point , they were given another court date for them to come back and plead their case.

Were they in their right to fight the ticket? sure they were.
But it also meant that so far, they've had to take one day off work to go to court to begin with, and pleading not guilty meant a return trip to court and having to take a second day off work. Maybe they would still be found guilty and have to pay the fine, maybe not, but it would cost them that second day off work.

how much money would they lose by having to take that second day off work, vs, just paying the $25.

Like I said, it can be a tough call.