Anyone complaining about "Poolside" ELR ad should read this. - Page 2

derklug · 03-09-2014, 01:44 PM

At least Cadillac is saying you have to work hard, Mercedes implied you had to make a deal with the devil to own one.

Number 3 · 03-09-2014, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Master Chief

If a remote controlled car counts in this case, then they can change the advertisement to say that the USA has a fleet of cars on Mars with the keys in them. Nobody else has even one there.

I find it funny that people complain about the guy in the ad being arrogant, but it has been my experience that this guy is completely down to earth and friendly when compared to the majority of hybrid and electric car owners.

I would also guess there aren't keys in them. Just a switch. Lol

We're did you put the keys?

I don't know I thought you had them.

Last I saw them they were next to the tang.

Lol the commercial is on as I type this.

nester7929 · 03-09-2014, 03:03 PM

Why does this have to offend people? God forbid this ad would inspire someone to work harder and better themselves so they could afford a Cadillac someday.

When I see a Corvette on the dealership floor, I don't think "it's unfair to flaunt this in front of people who can't afford it," I think "I'm going to put myself in a position where I can have this in my 30's if I want to."

Hell, one of the main reasons I'm finishing my Ph.D. is because it will enable me to have a sweet garage.

Number 3 · 03-09-2014, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by nester7929

Why does this have to offend people? God forbid this ad would inspire someone to work harder and better themselves so they could afford a Cadillac someday.

When I see a Corvette on the dealership floor, I don't think "it's unfair to flaunt this in front of people who can't afford it," I think "I'm going to put myself in a position where I can have this in my 30's if I want to."

Hell, one of the main reasons I'm finishing my Ph.D. is because it will enable me to have a sweet garage.

We live in a society that now is ashamed of the American dream. This guy espouses the American dream. Work your butt off, get ahead, make a great life for yourself. It certainly doesn't happen that way for everyone and yes there is luck, good fortune and a lot of intangibles needed to make it, but in this great country it remains possible.

Today, it is more that isn't fair that some people have achieved something, that achieving the American dream is now something to be ashamed of simply because it isn't fair. And this commercial is apparently a reminder for those people.

2010-1SS-IBM · 03-09-2014, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Number 3

It certainly doesn't happen that way for everyone and yes there is luck, good fortune and a lot of intangibles needed to make it, but in this great country it remains possible.

I'd say it's less about luck and more about choices people make. A lot of people don't realize that success is a choice.

FenwickHockey65 · 03-09-2014, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Number 3

We live in a society that now is ashamed of the American dream. This guy espouses the American dream. Work your butt off, get ahead, make a great life for yourself. It certainly doesn't happen that way for everyone and yes there is luck, good fortune and a lot of intangibles needed to make it, but in this great country it remains possible.

Today, it is more that isn't fair that some people have achieved something, that achieving the American dream is now something to be ashamed of simply because it isn't fair. And this commercial is apparently a reminder for those people.

Agreed.

Manbearpig · 03-09-2014, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by 2010-1SS-IBM

I'd say it's less about luck and more about choices people make. A lot of people don't realize that success is a choice.

Bam.

trademaster · 03-09-2014, 10:40 PM

I don't see why people are getting so upset. I can't undestand why any individual would find it offensive. I do however, recognize the irony. The commercial seems to suggest that success and prosperity are purely the result of capitalism and hard work by the individual, but the current success, prosperity, and existence of General Motors can be almost completely attributed to the input of millions of people in one of the most socialist actions ever taken by the US government. I don't think it's anything to write home about, but GM still needs tread carefully with their advertising.

OP it seems like you danced around it, but didn't specifically say that is your site or at the very least your article, though that is obviously the case. Why not just come out and say it?

trashmanssd · 03-10-2014, 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by 2010-1SS-IBM

I'd say it's less about luck and more about choices people make. A lot of people don't realize that success is a choice.

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Originally Posted by Manbearpig

Bam.

Good choices and Hard work go a long way at making your self successful.

CamaroSkooter · 03-10-2014, 08:24 AM

People who find that ad offensive are people I find offensive.

Scalded Dog · 03-10-2014, 06:46 PM

Anything--- ANYTHING--- will find haters online. How 'bout "Hot Facebook Mom?" Geez... she got a lot of hate for being fit (and, well, hot). "Hate the Rich!" that's the battle cry of those who have not. Most likely, the rich busted their ass to get rich... and I can respect that. Sure, lots of people will bust their ass and NEVER get rich, but that's not a valid reason to hate those who HAVE succeeded. Hate on SUVs? Holy smokes... even though my Suburban will deliver more people to a destination using fewer gallons of fossil fuels than the required fleet of hybrids, well, still gotta hate SUVs. And when the SUV haters are done griping about MPGs, they say that SUVs are STILL evil because they give an unfair advantage in a collision with a smaller car. Fine... but my family is going to have the advantage over theirs, because I believe in protecting my family. Hate on guns, hate on wealth, hate on big oil, hate on pharm, hate on America (Don't you love those Americans--- AMERICANS--- who jump all over the notion that we really asked for the events of 9/11 because Americans are horrible people... so it's our fault?). Hate on Cheerios for showing a mixed- race couple... hate on Barbie... hate on Mustangs (ok, that one is legit)... hate on a Volkswagen commercial because a WHITE MAN spoke with a Trinidad accent... and hate on Cadillac for an ad that extolls the virtues of the American Dream.

LuSe4 · 03-10-2014, 07:57 PM

That commercial made me smile. So few things make me proud to be an American anymore.

The actor in it is very good, too. He is an excellent bad guy.

*The_Blur* · 03-10-2014, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by trademaster

I don't see why people are getting so upset. I can't undestand why any individual would find it offensive. I do however, recognize the irony. The commercial seems to suggest that success and prosperity are purely the result of capitalism and hard work by the individual, but the current success, prosperity, and existence of General Motors can be almost completely attributed to the input of millions of people in one of the most socialist actions ever taken by the US government. I don't think it's anything to write home about, but GM still needs tread carefully with their advertising.

OP it seems like you danced around it, but didn't specifically say that is your site or at the very least your article, though that is obviously the case. Why not just come out and say it?

It is, but I wasn't ready to claim it until I got it just right. I still have changes I'd like to make, and I'd like some more writers. That site is just a place to collect some thoughts and news on GM. All the good stuff will keep coming to Camaro5.

03-09-2014, 01:44 PM	#15
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03-09-2014, 10:40 PM	#22
trademaster Drives: 12 MP4-12C, 16 Quattroporte Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Working Posts: 707	I don't see why people are getting so upset. I can't undestand why any individual would find it offensive. I do however, recognize the irony. The commercial seems to suggest that success and prosperity are purely the result of capitalism and hard work by the individual, but the current success, prosperity, and existence of General Motors can be almost completely attributed to the input of millions of people in one of the most socialist actions ever taken by the US government. I don't think it's anything to write home about, but GM still needs tread carefully with their advertising. OP it seems like you danced around it, but didn't specifically say that is your site or at the very least your article, though that is obviously the case. Why not just come out and say it? Last edited by trademaster; 03-10-2014 at 01:07 AM.

03-10-2014, 08:24 AM	#24
CamaroSkooter Retarded One-Legged Owl Drives: 2010 Black Camaro 2SS Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 9,745	People who find that ad offensive are people I find offensive. __________________ My VIN = 2G1FK1EJ9A9105017 Build Date: 04-23-2009 according to: http://www.compnine.com/vid.php

03-10-2014, 07:57 PM	#26
LuSe4 Drives: 2013 Camaro 2SS RS LS3 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 1,058	That commercial made me smile. So few things make me proud to be an American anymore. The actor in it is very good, too. He is an excellent bad guy. __________________ -2013 Summit White over Inferno Orange 2SS RS- -2014 White Diamond Silverado Z71 Crew Cab Short Box-

03-09-2014, 03:03 PM	#17
nester7929 Rice Harvester Drives: 2014 Bright Yellow 2SS/RS Join Date: May 2008 Location: Plainview, TX Posts: 1,449	Why does this have to offend people? God forbid this ad would inspire someone to work harder and better themselves so they could afford a Cadillac someday. When I see a Corvette on the dealership floor, I don't think "it's unfair to flaunt this in front of people who can't afford it," I think "I'm going to put myself in a position where I can have this in my 30's if I want to." Hell, one of the main reasons I'm finishing my Ph.D. is because it will enable me to have a sweet garage.

03-10-2014, 06:46 PM	#25
Scalded Dog Drives: 2011 1LT Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Crestline, CA Posts: 3,029	Anything--- ANYTHING--- will find haters online. How 'bout "Hot Facebook Mom?" Geez... she got a lot of hate for being fit (and, well, hot). "Hate the Rich!" that's the battle cry of those who have not. Most likely, the rich busted their ass to get rich... and I can respect that. Sure, lots of people will bust their ass and NEVER get rich, but that's not a valid reason to hate those who HAVE succeeded. Hate on SUVs? Holy smokes... even though my Suburban will deliver more people to a destination using fewer gallons of fossil fuels than the required fleet of hybrids, well, still gotta hate SUVs. And when the SUV haters are done griping about MPGs, they say that SUVs are STILL evil because they give an unfair advantage in a collision with a smaller car. Fine... but my family is going to have the advantage over theirs, because I believe in protecting my family. Hate on guns, hate on wealth, hate on big oil, hate on pharm, hate on America (Don't you love those Americans--- AMERICANS--- who jump all over the notion that we really asked for the events of 9/11 because Americans are horrible people... so it's our fault?). Hate on Cheerios for showing a mixed- race couple... hate on Barbie... hate on Mustangs (ok, that one is legit)... hate on a Volkswagen commercial because a WHITE MAN spoke with a Trinidad accent... and hate on Cadillac for an ad that extolls the virtues of the American Dream.