2015 Ford Mustang REVEALED (official pics)

[LOWDOWN]

Originally Posted by khell86

I dont believe anyone has every mentioned the standard Mustang GT beating the Z/28 on the track. If someone had actually stated that... anyone with common sense would know how ignorant that person is. I think the prices reflect the cars equally. A premium mustang gt running around 35k and then a z/28 running around 75k. 300k to 650k makes sense. Not to mention the z/28 is a collectors car produced in a limited quantity while the GT will be mass produced.

These purchases say nothing in regards to what the masses are thinking.

Ford says it "beats the BOSS", and some think that makes it as "able" as any Camaro...

But, as Joe says, the marketplace spoke, last night. LOUD 'n CLEAR.

Here's what appeared on FB today. Speaking of nice Ford Blue Mustangs...
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[72MachOne99GT]

I get the jokes, but nobody in their right mind is comparing the new GT to tue new z/28, and if they are, it's just to rile up some reactions.

[HeavyIOM]

Originally Posted by banter

Man i still just absolutely hate the rear on that mustang. Looks like they took a decent looking car and said, "we need to make this a mustang guys." Then someone went into photoshop, cut out the rear of an old fastback and put it on here without making it flow with the rest of the car or anything... Then they all said, "that'll do."

I feel the same about the rear and front of the 14 Camaro. Different strokes for different folks.

Originally Posted by LOWDOWN

Ford says it "beats the BOSS", and some think that makes it as "able" as any Camaro...

But, as Joe says, the marketplace spoke, last night. LOUD 'n CLEAR.

Here's what appeared on FB today. Speaking of nice Ford Blue Mustangs...
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I get the jokes, but to say the marketplace of rich snobs who know nothing but how to spend money, spoke loud and clear is funny. The 1st of a very limited run of car (Z28) sold for more than a mass produced GT, does that really surprise you or anyone else?

[LOWDOWN]

Ron Pratte, who has a solid history of buying "significant performance Mustangs" (BOSS LS #1, GT 500 Convertible #1, and several other "charity" Mustangs amongst others) and has a spectacular collection of 'spensive vehicles with a focus on Fords, NEVER BID...not once...

To me, that's no joke...nor, do I suspect, does Dearborn think it was a joke, in ANY regard. A deserving charity was let down by this and, regardless of where your allegiances lie, it's NOT "good p.r." for this car, head-to-head with it's cross-town rival, nor for Ford fans in support of their favored car company...

For all the MILION$ Ford spent on the launch, you mean to tell me Mulally and Farley and the boys couldn't find someone to pony up some substantial ca$h for this supposedly "significant" Mustang?!

I'll bet a Maker's Mark the 1st Gen-6 Camaro, regardless of version sold, will go for w-e-l-l more than $300K. Feel free to bookmark this page...

[PYROLYSIS]

Originally Posted by calebparkin3

I feel the same about the rear and front of the 14 Camaro. Different strokes for different folks.



I get the jokes, but to say the marketplace of rich snobs who know nothing but how to spend money, spoke loud and clear is funny. The 1st of a very limited run of car (Z28) sold for more than a mass produced GT, does that really surprise you or anyone else?

It shouldn't matter how many are made. There is only one number one. That said my real opinion on this thing is that it's just an auction. When you throw different charities into the mix, one car's value over another is made hard to speculate.

Originally Posted by LOWDOWN

Ron Pratte, who has a solid history of buying "significant performance Mustangs" (BOSS LS #1, GT 500 Convertible #1, and several other "charity" Mustangs amongst others) and has a spectacular collection of 'spensive vehicles with a focus on Fords, NEVER BID...not once...

To me, that's no joke...nor, do I suspect, does Dearborn think it was a joke, in ANY regard. A deserving charity was let down by this and, regardless of where your allegiances lie, it's NOT "good p.r." for this car, head-to-head with it's cross-town rival, nor for Ford fans in support of their favored car company...

For all the MILION$ Ford spent on the launch, you mean to tell me Mulally and Farley and the boys couldn't find someone to pony up some substantial ca$h for this supposedly "significant" Mustang?!

I'll bet a Maker's Mark the 1st Gen-6 Camaro, regardless of version sold, will go for w-e-l-l more than $300K. Feel free to bookmark this page...

Maybe Ron Pratte is running low on cash?

[72MachOne99GT]

I guess I don't see the big hoopla. It's neat to get number one, awesome in fact, I just don't see the revelance of this vs that when it comes to bid values by people with more money than I have.

I'd pay a couple dollars over MSRP for #1

[khell86]

Originally Posted by 72MachOne99GT

I get the jokes, but nobody in their right mind is comparing the new GT to tue new z/28, and if they are, it's just to rile up some reactions.

I guess ford should take it as a compliment that so many people are making a big deal between the Z/28 and the 2015 Mustang. I'd say that's a win for Ford then.

[LOWDOWN]

Mach, these "charity" cars are a BIG deal...to the companies that supply them, to the people who build-promote them...and MOST importantly, to the worthy not-for-profits that receive the end benefit. The tax implications for the purchaser are significant. And the WHOLE world is watching...

So, here you are with your "star car" going up for "auction" in a publically-televised forum, and arguably the "trend-setting" arena for the coming season. What do you do? Let "the Gods" decide what your star product is worth?

NOT if I ran the promotional end of this, had just spent a BILLION or three to ready it for market, another several MILLION$ shuttling the thing all over the country and world for simultaneous launches from here to Timbukto, and then send it to an "open auction" to let it fall on its face vs. all manner of OTHER charity vehicles. Somewhere, somehow, there would have been someone ready to pony up a $MILLION for that car...and that would be the CHEAPEST "subsidy" Ford ever gave for WORLDWIDE publicity of their MILLION DOLLAR BABY!

Golden opportunity...squandered. FAIL, Ford...

...and, frankly, indefensible...

[trademaster]

Originally Posted by SEVEN-OH JOE

So, the 1st Gen-6 Mustang GT, the "BOSS-beater" (and, by implication, Z/28 challenger [no pun]), sells for $300,000. Ron Pratte, the buyer of all significant performance #1 Mustangs, is absent from bidding, although he was seen sitting @ Rick Hendrick's left hand.

Then, that "total fail" of a "phat azz" **Z/28 arrives, the 1st one its kind of the "old-Gen" Camaros to see the light of day, and it sells for $650,000.

BOTH charity cars, with great tax implications, and BOTH rabidly sought by their respective faithful.

I guess the free market has spoken.

Basic supply and demand has spoken

Originally Posted by PYROLYSIS

It shouldn't matter how many are made. There is only one number one. That said my real opinion on this thing is that it's just an auction. When you throw different charities into the mix, one car's value over another is made hard to speculate.

Of course it matters how many are made. Intrinsic value also matters greatly.

[TheReaper]

Originally Posted by LOWDOWN

Mach, these "charity" cars are a BIG deal...to the companies that supply them, to the people who build-promote them...and MOST importantly, to the worthy not-for-profits that receive the end benefit. The tax implications for the purchaser are significant. And the WHOLE world is watching...

So, here you are with your "star car" going up for "auction" in a publically-televised forum, and arguably the "trend-setting" arena for the coming season. What do you do? Let "the Gods" decide what your star product is worth?

NOT if I ran the promotional end of this, had just spent a BILLION or three to ready it for market, another several MILLION$ shuttling the thing all over the country and world for simultaneous launches from here to Timbukto, and then send it to an "open auction" to let it fall on its face vs. all manner of OTHER charity vehicles. Somewhere, somehow, there would have been someone ready to pony up a $MILLION for that car...and that would be the CHEAPEST "subsidy" Ford ever gave for WORLDWIDE publicity of their MILLION DOLLAR BABY!

Golden opportunity...squandered. FAIL, Ford...

...and, frankly, indefensible...

Do I sense some But Hurt in this post ?

[Explit Player]

Originally Posted by 72MachOne99GT

I get the jokes, but nobody in their right mind is comparing the new GT to tue new z/28, and if they are, it's just to rile up some reactions.

Well you gotta think in terms of value. Yea sure the Z/28 is a hugely expensive technologically adavnced car. BUT it out sold a brand new generation of muscle car. The Z/28 is just a package on a Camaro. Yet it doubled the value on the auction block for what a brand new generation Mustang brought.

[trademaster]

Originally Posted by Explit Player

Well you gotta think in terms of value. Yea sure the Z/28 is a hugely expensive technologically adavnced car. BUT it out sold a brand new generation of muscle car. The Z/28 is just a package on a Camaro. Yet it doubled the value on the auction block for what a brand new generation Mustang brought.

A brand new generation that will only be brand new for one year. Five years from now there may be a couple hundred fifth gen Z28s. There will be tens of thousands of these Mustang GTs running around, thousands with the exact same color and options combination. #1 of X00 of a vehicle that's already twice as expensive is much more meaningful than #1 of XX,000.

Scarcity is king in luxury auctions. Just look at the older Ferraris. You think if there were 80,000 1958 250GTs running around that one would have just sold for $8,800,000?

[crysalis_01]

Originally Posted by trademaster

A brand new generation that will only be brand new for one year. Five years from now there may be a couple hundred fifth gen Z28s. There will be tens of thousands of these Mustang GTs running around, thousands with the exact same color and options combination. #1 of X00 of a vehicle that's already twice as expensive is much more meaningful than #1 of XX,000.

Scarcity is king in luxury auctions. Just look at the older Ferraris. You think if there were 80,000 1958 250GTs running around that one would have just sold for $8,800,000?

This.

It doesn't matter that the Z/28 is "just a package" on a Camaro, its initial valuation (due to it being a super limited edition) at all but double the upcoming GT's assumed price plays a huge part in this kind of thing. Think about the fact that, over say 15 years, the Z/28 will most likely retain its higher value (I'm thinking to the most synonymous car I can, the '00 R) while the GT, even #1, will devalue quite far...think how dirt cheap a 15 year old GT is worth now.

[HeavyIOM]

Wow so according to some of you, a Z28, is the same as a regular Mustang GT. Damn good job Ford! Some of you GM nut huggers will grasp for anything to try and say Camaro is better. The fanboyism seems to grow everyday on this forum.