2015 Ford Mustang REVEALED (official pics) - Page 60

Truck Norris · 12-12-2013, 01:01 AM

I'm bummed that the new 5.0L is not getting direct injection.

E85 flex fuel capabilities like whats on the f150's 5.0L would also be a much welcome addition for us modifiers.

Norm Peterson · 12-12-2013, 07:59 AM

Getting what some are estimating at 435 HP or so from the port injected 5.0, I'd expect DI to show up no sooner than as a mid-cycle upgrade . . . possibly being held in reserve as a response to an LT1 6th gen Camaro.

Norm

newmoon · 12-12-2013, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by KMPrenger

This is why I can't wait to see a 1LE vs GT comparison....although only for their on the track prowlness. I'm thinking the GT will be a tad quicker in a straight line.

It will be a good comparison. In regards to it being a tad quicker in a straightline than the 1LE, he states that the GT's performance will exceed the Boss. Presently a straightline race between a Boss and a 1LE would be amusing as the Boss has already run mid 12s bone stock and 11s with DRs, the 1LE is having difficulty getting into the 12s period.

KMPrenger · 12-12-2013, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by newmoon

It will be a good comparison. In regards to it being a tad quicker in a straightline than the 1LE, he states that the GT's performance will exceed the Boss. Presently a straightline race between a Boss and a 1LE would be amusing as the Boss has already run mid 12s bone stock and 11s with DRs, the 1LE is having difficulty getting into the 12s period.

Which is surprising considering the 3.91 rear end. MT tested the 1LE against the GT and they both got a 12.7 at 111

Firefighter · 12-12-2013, 02:18 PM

The reason for the some what poor 1/4 mile performance of the 1LE despite the 3.91 gears is that the gearing in the Tremec was optimized/selected for the road course. It is designed to run 2nd and 3rd gear through most of a road course. The final gearing on a 1LE works out to not be a steep as a regular SS. It has been said a million times that if the 1/4 mile is your thing get a Regular SS not a 1LE SS.

Personally I haven't been on a drag strip since HS. The road course is where my heart is.

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trademaster · 12-12-2013, 03:26 PM

Ford said in their press release that the crank was altered for higher rpm use. Even if they only pick up a bit of peak hp, if they can hold around that power for an extra 500rpm or so, that will have a big impact on straight line figures. It will be interesting to see how this car performs. It could be a disappointment or a total shocker, there just isn't enough information yet.

SEVEN-OH JOE · 12-12-2013, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Reincarnated

The rods that are used in the boss are extremely strong. They are made with a higher grade of metal than normal powdered rods. In fact, they are said to be the strongest rods ever used in Fords V8 history. That's a pretty bold statement considering the manley rods used in the 03-04 Cobra's. They had to be really strong to handle the high revving motor. The Boss motor can rev cleanly to 8,400 rpm when the factory rev limiter is bypassed.

I've seen people run well over 20psi, and surpass 1000hp on stock bottom end Boss Mustang's.

http://www.mustang50magazine.com/tec...2/viewall.html

It's those rod's that allow you to throw on monster blower's like this and not have to worry about building your bottom end. Having these rods in the base S550 GT is pretty epic

I thought I'd share this smidgeon of insight into Manley SB Ford rods. I sure hope those super-duper sintered metallic ones are better.

Photo from the files of Mike Yoksich, noted Ford freelancer.

crysalis_01 · 12-12-2013, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SEVEN-OH JOE

I thought I'd share this smidgeon of insight into Manley SB Ford rods. I sure hope those super-duper sintered metallic ones are better.

Photo from the files of Steve Yoksich, noted Ford freelancer.

Outstanding. How much boost (and for how long) was that engine asked to take?

Stock? Twin-Screw? TT? What octane tune? Would other stock rods have fared better under the same circumstances? So many questions.

trademaster · 12-12-2013, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SEVEN-OH JOE

I thought I'd share this smidgeon of insight into Manley SB Ford rods. I sure hope those super-duper sintered metallic ones are better.

Photo from the files of Steve Yoksich, noted Ford freelancer.

"Insight" lol

Any rod can be bent/broken. Any rod.

Reincarnated · 12-12-2013, 06:30 PM

Yeah, I'm not sure what the point of that picture was myself. Is this supposed to prove something?

Edit: Did that rod come out of those Camaro's in the background?...

Norm Peterson · 12-12-2013, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by crysalis_01

Outstanding. How much boost (and for how long) was that engine asked to take?

Stock? Twin-Screw? TT? What octane tune? Would other stock rods have fared better under the same circumstances? So many questions.

I'm guessing something not nearly that impressive.

Judging by the apparent lack of piston damage, try a hydraulic-locked cylinder, which could happen on a totally stock motor. I-beam rods will bend, but they won't buckle like that.

Norm

chrisx66 · 12-12-2013, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SEVEN-OH JOE

I thought I'd share this smidgeon of insight into Manley SB Ford rods. I sure hope those super-duper sintered metallic ones are better.

Photo from the files of Steve Yoksich, noted Ford freelancer.

Manley rods are Chinese forgings same as Eagle, Scat, Probe, and Callie's compstar line. You have to step up to Oliver, Carrillo, or Crower to get a premium USA forged rod. I do have one of those super-duper sintered metallic 5.0 rods out of a bone stock 5.0 that's broken in half, if I remember I'll take a pic of it when I go to the shop tomorrow and post it.

Reincarnated · 12-12-2013, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by chrisx66

Manley rods are Chinese forgings same as Eagle, Scat, Probe, and Callie's compstar line. You have to step up to Oliver, Carrillo, or Crower to get a premium USA forged rod. I do have one of those super-duper sintered metallic 5.0 rods out of a bone stock 5.0 that's broken in half, if I remember I'll take a pic of it when I go to the shop tomorrow and post it.

Who's talking about bone stock 5.0 rods?...

Are the rods in your bone stock 5.0 the same as the Boss mustang or 03-04 cobra rods that are being discussed? I'm just not seeing how this is relevant.

LOWDOWN · 12-12-2013, 11:20 PM

Let's see now, Reincarnated, you've been here for three days, signed up on a Camaro site to flap your "reincarnated" gums about a not-ready-for-primetime Mustang. You mention Manley rods like they're some extraordinary piece of unobtainium exceeded ONLY by "sintered metal" (translation - powdered) piece crafted from "sweepings off the foundry floor" . Then you see a picture of a MANLEY rod, get butt-hurt, and continue to mumble in myopic form... Is that about right?

Are you "Reincarnated" from some formerly-banned name/person? I hope you used a new IP address...

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12-12-2013, 01:01 AM	#827
Truck Norris Thread Mover Drives: a Monte Carlo Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Sierra Nevada Posts: 490	I'm bummed that the new 5.0L is not getting direct injection. E85 flex fuel capabilities like whats on the f150's 5.0L would also be a much welcome addition for us modifiers. __________________ In the market for something fast

12-12-2013, 02:18 PM	#831
Firefighter Drives: Black '13 2SS/RS/1LE w/NPP/NAV Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Tampa by way of Miami... Posts: 4,934	The reason for the some what poor 1/4 mile performance of the 1LE despite the 3.91 gears is that the gearing in the Tremec was optimized/selected for the road course. It is designed to run 2nd and 3rd gear through most of a road course. The final gearing on a 1LE works out to not be a steep as a regular SS. It has been said a million times that if the 1/4 mile is your thing get a Regular SS not a 1LE SS. Personally I haven't been on a drag strip since HS. The road course is where my heart is. Sent from my DROID RAZR HD using Tapatalk __________________ My Build Thread... http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=285054

12-12-2013, 06:30 PM	#836
Reincarnated Drives: American V8 Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Tennessee Posts: 12	Yeah, I'm not sure what the point of that picture was myself. Is this supposed to prove something? Edit: Did that rod come out of those Camaro's in the background?... Last edited by Reincarnated; 12-12-2013 at 07:01 PM.

12-12-2013, 07:59 AM	#828
Norm Peterson corner barstool sitter Drives: 08 Mustang GT, 19 WRX Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Eastern Time Zone Posts: 6,990	Getting what some are estimating at 435 HP or so from the port injected 5.0, I'd expect DI to show up no sooner than as a mid-cycle upgrade . . . possibly being held in reserve as a response to an LT1 6th gen Camaro. Norm

12-12-2013, 03:26 PM	#832
trademaster Drives: 12 MP4-12C, 16 Quattroporte Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Working Posts: 707	Ford said in their press release that the crank was altered for higher rpm use. Even if they only pick up a bit of peak hp, if they can hold around that power for an extra 500rpm or so, that will have a big impact on straight line figures. It will be interesting to see how this car performs. It could be a disappointment or a total shocker, there just isn't enough information yet.

12-12-2013, 11:20 PM	#840
LOWDOWN Downright Upright Drives: Daily Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Cruisin'... Posts: 4,145	Let's see now, Reincarnated, you've been here for three days, signed up on a Camaro site to flap your "reincarnated" gums about a not-ready-for-primetime Mustang. You mention Manley rods like they're some extraordinary piece of unobtainium exceeded ONLY by "sintered metal" (translation - powdered) piece crafted from "sweepings off the foundry floor" . Then you see a picture of a MANLEY rod, get butt-hurt, and continue to mumble in myopic form... Is that about right? Are you "Reincarnated" from some formerly-banned name/person? I hope you used a new IP address...