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View Poll Results: What do you think of the style of the 2015 Mustang?
Really like it. 62 21.99%
Undecided, but leaning positive. 80 28.37%
Undecided, but leaning negative. 69 24.47%
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Old 12-04-2013, 10:58 AM   #113
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Oh ye of little faith. I have a feeling a lot of folks are going to be very surprised when the 6th Gen Camaro drops.
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Old 12-04-2013, 11:00 AM   #114
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More food for thought.

I can't recall any car with better proportions than this other than the 65 GT350.

A new classic?
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Old 12-04-2013, 11:02 AM   #115
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The renders looked better, and those didn't look too good.
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Old 12-04-2013, 11:03 AM   #116
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More food for thought.

I can't recall any car with better proportions than this other than the 65 GT350.

A new classic?



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Old 12-04-2013, 11:07 AM   #117
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I'll speculate the 200 lb. is off the Base curb weight. By substituting a turbo-4 for the current V6, some of the weight savings is apparent, right there. By paring some length, a few more pounds are saved. By going to "high tech" material and improved engineering and assembly processes, a few more. SRA to IRS add$, in weight as well.

Bottom line, no magic no-cost diet pill exists, for Ford OR for anyone else. Every component needs to be rationalized, just as they did with the Z/28. Just as they'll be required to do with the Gen-6 Camaro.

Tomorrow's announcement should shed light on exact weights and dimensions, and power teams. I suspect a GT will come in at 3500 lb. or so with a stick.

Styling? If you're a fan of the existing Mustangs, '05-forward, and the Gen-1s, '65-'70, you'll like it. Otherwise, it's not exactly revolutionary, but rather evolutionary. God knows, Ford has had their finger on the pulse of their customers for most of 50 years.
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Old 12-04-2013, 11:08 AM   #118
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More food for thought.

I can't recall any car with better proportions than this other than the 65 GT350.

A new classic?
Ehhh. It has good proportions I'll say, and as I've said a 1000 times already I think it isn't bad. Its sleek and modern (sporty for sure), but underwhelming at the same time. It has some strange lines that just feel weird to me.

Nice new picture though.
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Old 12-04-2013, 11:09 AM   #119
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I really hope GM doesn't screw up the styling of the 6th gen.
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Old 12-04-2013, 11:13 AM   #120
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More food for thought.

I can't recall any car with better proportions than this other than the 65 GT350.

A new classic?
That looks waaaaay better than what we saw leaked yesterday.
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Old 12-04-2013, 11:16 AM   #121
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So far, I like it....especially the fast-back roof....the front end looks good, but the "blood-shot" headlights and fog-light area are a bit "edgy"...could have softened those up a bit....

Nice job, though....should make the 6th Gen Camaros interesting to see...
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Old 12-04-2013, 11:21 AM   #122
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That looks waaaaay better than what we saw leaked yesterday.
Yeah there are some more pictures floating around now that are wayyyyyy better then the pictures of the picture in the magazine.

Its growing on me quickly, but the interior still seems very busy
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Old 12-04-2013, 12:21 PM   #123
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Here are the 2014 Mustang weights:

V6 Manual - 3501
V6 Automatic - 3523
GT Manual - 3618
GT Automatic - 3675

So assuming GT to GT they lost 200 lbs thats 3418 for the manual GT and puts it in Corvette territory. That would be pretty sweet for Mustang performance and a nightmare for the current Camaro and Challenger.

But did the GT really lose that much weight? Or is Ford comparing the new ecoboost Stang to say...last years V6 model or something like that? We'll see soon enough.

But I agree if the GT is in the 3,400ish lb range, I don't know if GM can reach that on their V8 model even on the Alpha chasis. The current ATS with V6 weighs in the 3,400lb range. Add a V8 and beefier driveline to that and your well into the 3,500 and maybe 3,600 range. If this is the case GM will need to put the LT1 with Corvette-like power in it to be even in a straight line with the Mustang. Thats assuming the 5.0 will have 430 HP like some are saying.

You have to remember the ATS still has quite a bit of areas that can shed weight. Most of the body is still steel except for the hood. The control arms are all steel, etc. GM is not going to go as extensive on the interior and options, so there will be costs cut from there in which they could invest towards weight reduction by changing materials. a 3300-3400 lb Camaro SS is definitely not out of the question at all. Plus when shifting the platform to 2 door you can a lot of times shed weight.


I really don't think it would be difficult for GM to make a 3300lb Camaro SS with the alpha platform.
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Old 12-04-2013, 12:23 PM   #124
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The dashboard looks way to busy to suit me. I like things a little less cluttered feeling.
I agree. The materials look nice, but the dash design is messed up. There are just random lines and shapes shooting all over the place. Very strange. The steering wheel is a dead ringer for the 2010 Camaro though.

The outside insn't bad. It's a bit too modern and Japanesey for me though. I look forward to seeing it in person.
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Old 12-04-2013, 12:40 PM   #125
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3400-3500 lbs and 500hp stock for the GT by later 2014. Low 12s in 1/4? Looks pretty damn good too, but the 5th Gen Camaro still holds it own on that front IMO.
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Old 12-04-2013, 12:52 PM   #126
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You have to remember the ATS still has quite a bit of areas that can shed weight. Most of the body is still steel except for the hood. The control arms are all steel, etc. GM is not going to go as extensive on the interior and options, so there will be costs cut from there in which they could invest towards weight reduction by changing materials. a 3300-3400 lb Camaro SS is definitely not out of the question at all. Plus when shifting the platform to 2 door you can a lot of times shed weight.


I really don't think it would be difficult for GM to make a 3300lb Camaro SS with the alpha platform.
The 2014 corvette weighs in at 3298 lbs. I seriously doubt that the new camaro is both going to weigh the same and have the same engine option as the corvette. I really don't see cannibalizing as a good move for GM at this point.

As for this new mustang, I am not a fan of the front or the back. The side profile looks great. I am hoping for a more aggressive front grille for the upgraded models on the reveal tomorrow.
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