When Was The Last Time You Worked Out At The Gym

[Sapphire]

Originally Posted by kalimus

Well I can't say that it wasn't a little bit enjoyable, but this was a little beyond my control. Constant travel with school and out-to-sea time has made it almost impossible for me to eat right or lift. On the plus side, I've only gained about 4 pounds since then...

It hurt today. It hurt so much.

rest up lol. yeah I caught the flu back in the fall and was out of working out for a while until I was better and knew my body was good enough to work out again and getting back to the grind hurt. I dunno if this is the way most people feel, but after you get use to working out you almost get addicted to it. I almost feel depressed if I skip a couple of days of going to the gym.

[Dznts]

Originally Posted by YellowCammy

rest up lol. yeah I caught the flu back in the fall and was out of working out for a while until I was better and knew my body was good enough to work out again and getting back to the grind hurt. I dunno if this is the way most people feel, but after you get use to working out you almost get addicted to it. I almost feel depressed if I skip a couple of days of going to the gym.

I completely agree. It is an addiction for me too. I feel guilty if I miss, which is why I very rarely miss a day.

[SUKXOST]

Originally Posted by Dznts

I completely agree. It is an addiction for me too. I feel guilty if I miss, which is why I very rarely miss a day.

Agreed as well. I'm about 5 weeks into working out again and I find myself thinking about lifting, improving techniques and how to vary exercises and focusing more on diet etc. Addictin for sure but I NEED an occasional day or two off a week to recoup.

[WheelmanSS]

Originally Posted by SUKXOST

Last few weeks been lifting again. I'm up to 4-5 days a week.

Here's how I lift via muscle groups: (still making minor changes as my body gets used to working out all my muscle groups)

Day 1: Back(traps and lats); Bi's; Shoulders(front and rear delts); Forearms and some Abs

Day 2: Chest; Tri's and some Abs

Day 3: Legs(light to maintain);Cardio and Core focus

Day 4: REST

Day 5: Start over

It's a developmental work in progress and not held to strictly but next couple of months ill fine tune it with my work schedule

I know some people will come at me with pitch-works, but lifting by "muscle groups" is fairly overrated.

Power/Olympic lifting is where it's at. Couple that with some body-weight exercises that use multiple muscles groups, and that's the key to getting stronger and more explosive.

[CFD]

Originally Posted by SUKXOST

Agreed as well. I'm about 5 weeks into working out again and I find myself thinking about lifting, improving techniques and how to vary exercises and focusing more on diet etc. Addictin for sure but I NEED an occasional day or two off a week to recoup.

I very rarely miss my workouts either.

Rest is a very important part of a workout routine. I never lift more than two days in a row or more than 4 days weekly. Your muscles grow while resting not while you are working and overtraining is more common than some may think.

[WheelmanSS]

Originally Posted by CFD

I very rarely miss my workouts either.

Rest is a very important part of a workout routine. I never lift more than two days in a row or more than 4 days weekly. Your muscles grow while resting not while you are working and overtraining is more common than some may think.

This man always speaks truth.

[Sapphire]

ugh.. back squats yesterday and I'm having to run up and down stairs at work... kill me now.

[SUKXOST]

Took today off. 2hrs of volleyball yesterday and my legs feel like cement. I can hardly walk HA

Chest and Tris tomorrow after work. Gotta get those horseshoes

[Dznts]

back and shoulders was today.

[Mydivorcegift]

Originally Posted by CFD

Rest is a very important part of a workout routine. I never lift more than two days in a row or more than 4 days weekly. Your muscles grow while resting not while you are working and overtraining is more common than some may think.

Originally Posted by WheelmanSS

This man always speaks truth.

Rest is important but if you are getting proper sleep at night there is no reason why you can't and shouldn't lift more than that using supplemental, extra workouts as an active restoration method.

I too have 4 training sessions a week...2 then a day off then 2 then 2 days off. But in between I also have 4 extra workouts of about 20 mins.

Hell by this logic you should just blast everything one day of the week and rest the other 6....just saying...

[CFD]

Originally Posted by Mydivorcegift

Rest is important but if you are getting proper sleep at night there is no reason why you can't and shouldn't lift more than that using supplemental, extra workouts as an active restoration method.

I too have 4 training sessions a week...2 then a day off then 2 then 2 days off. But in between I also have 4 extra workouts of about 20 mins.

Hell by this logic you should just blast everything one day of the week and rest the other 6....just saying...

You've got to look at the big picture. We're not going to factor in that some people have different genetics and can handle more training than the average person and we're not going to factor in use of steroids or hgh's we're talking in general.

Doing non strenuous exercise during non lifting days is ok if it is light and used as active recovery. The problem with training more than that is that it is accumulative, you may get away with it for a short while but it will lead to overtraining or burnout. Even with adequate sleep if training more than two days in a row you are not allowing for adequate recovery time, not only at the muscular level but on the nervous system, your body can only take so much. Look at almost any program, I'm not talking half assed programs or gimmick programs used for marketing but programs from any of the more advanced lifters and trainers and you will almost never see training more than two days in a row, there is a reason for it, it ends up being non productive and results in overtraining burn out or the worst possible INJURY. Well constructed programs almost always allow for two days before directly working the same muscle group. In fact, almost all muscle building programs call for no other exercise between lifting days, again because it becomes catabolic

Look at the 20x20 program you recommended. It is a well put together program but it also specifies no more than two consecutive days even for advanced lifters.

Whole body workouts can be very productive, more so in beginners but one day weekly with 6 resting days is to far in the opposite direction. Although some gains can be made at first, as soon as the body adapts there is not enough stimulus for muscle growth so you are wasting time.

Doing whole body workouts 2 times a week doesn't work that well either for a few reasons, one is that your workouts should be kept rather short about an hour, more is counterproductive because after about an hour your workouts become catabolic rather than anabolic because testosterone levels drop and cortisol levels increase, so following that logic it's hard two work every muscle group adequately in that time frame, two times a week again does not provide adequate stimulus for muscle growth.

You can train everyday if you like and work your ass off, have perfect nutrition and get 8-9 hrs sleep nightly and believe me many do but you will also notice that for all that work, gains are minimal, why, because of the above mentioned overtraining.

Personally, I'll stick to 3-day and 4-day splits, enjoy the rest of my time doing other things and keep making progress even at 58. I prefer, in my old age, to train smarter not harder.

[Mydivorcegift]

Originally Posted by CFD

You've got to look at the big picture. We're not going to factor in that some people have different genetics and can handle more training than the average person and we're not going to factor in use of steroids or hgh's we're talking in general.

Doing non strenuous exercise during non lifting days is ok if it is light and used as active recovery. The problem with training more than that is that it is accumulative, you may get away with it for a short while but it will lead to overtraining or burnout. Even with adequate sleep if training more than two days in a row you are not allowing for adequate recovery time, not only at the muscular level but on the nervous system, your body can only take so much. Look at almost any program, I'm not talking half assed programs or gimmick programs used for marketing but programs from any of the more advanced lifters and trainers and you will almost never see training more than two days in a row, there is a reason for it, it ends up being non productive and results in overtraining burn out or the worst possible INJURY. Well constructed programs almost always allow for two days before directly working the same muscle group. In fact, almost all muscle building programs call for no other exercise between lifting days, again because it becomes catabolic

Look at the 20x20 program you recommended. It is a well put together program but it also specifies no more than two consecutive days even for advanced lifters.

Whole body workouts can be very productive, more so in beginners but one day weekly with 6 resting days is to far in the opposite direction. Although some gains can be made at first, as soon as the body adapts there is not enough stimulus for muscle growth so you are wasting time.

Doing whole body workouts 2 times a week doesn't work that well either for a few reasons, one is that your workouts should be kept rather short about an hour, more is counterproductive because after about an hour your workouts become catabolic rather than anabolic because testosterone levels drop and cortisol levels increase, so following that logic it's hard two work every muscle group adequately in that time frame, two times a week again does not provide adequate stimulus for muscle growth.

You can train everyday if you like and work your ass off, have perfect nutrition and get 8-9 hrs sleep nightly and believe me many do but you will also notice that for all that work, gains are minimal, why, because of the above mentioned overtraining.

Personally, I'll stick to 3-day and 4-day splits, enjoy the rest of my time doing other things and keep making progress even at 58. I prefer, in my old age, to train smarter not harder.

Well we are just going to have to agree to disagree.

So the question becomes, how do you take "the general" and make them not "the general".

But I will tell you, you are not understanding what I am suggesting. I am not talking about squatting today, squatting tomorrow...

Take some time and read the articles and learn. The articles are written by the owner/operator of the strongest gym in the world bar none. And more than just a bunch of strong guys, many, many professional teams in all sports, as well as the highest caliber individual athletes seek his advice and incorporate at least some of his training methodologies. And btw...he is over 60

http://www.westside-barbell.com/inde...extra-workouts

http://www.westside-barbell.com/inde...tra-workouts-2

And when your done let me know what you think. I think it will help you (and could help the vast majority of people) if you apply the principles.

[CFD]

Originally Posted by Mydivorcegift

Well we are just going to have to agree to disagree.

So the question becomes, how do you take "the general" and make them not "the general".

But I will tell you, you are not understanding what I am suggesting. I am not talking about squatting today, squatting tomorrow...

Take some time and read the articles and learn. The articles are written by the owner/operator of the strongest gym in the world bar none. And more than just a bunch of strong guys, many, many professional teams in all sports, as well as the highest caliber individual athletes seek his advice and incorporate at least some of his training methodologies. And btw...he is over 60

http://www.westside-barbell.com/inde...extra-workouts

http://www.westside-barbell.com/inde...tra-workouts-2

And when your done let me know what you think. I think it will help you (and could help the vast majority of people) if you apply the principles.

I took a quick look at it and have seen this before along with many other programs. There is nothing wrong with it if followed using the program and weight loads recommended. The thing is again, it's a different program. It's breaking down the workouts to smaller muscle groups and using much lighter weight loads. If you do it as prescribed fine, but if you add the extra workouts to let's say a typical 4-day split where you are lifting close to max you are well exceeding what they are recommending. Again, many well constructed programs work if you follow them properly but, taking part of one program and adding it to parts of other programs don't usually work well.

[Mydivorcegift]

Originally Posted by CFD

I took a quick look at it and have seen this before along with many other programs. There is nothing wrong with it if followed using the program and weight loads recommended. The thing is again, it's a different program. It's breaking down the workouts to smaller muscle groups and using much lighter weight loads. If you do it as prescribed fine, but if you add the extra workouts to let's say a typical 4-day split where you are lifting close to max you are well exceeding what they are recommending. Again, many well constructed programs work if you follow them properly but, taking part of one program and adding it to parts of other programs don't usually work well.

I didn't want you to take a quick look. I wanted you to actually read.....and from your comments it's obvious you didn't with comments like "It's breaking down the workouts to smaller muscle groups and using much lighter weight loads"...that had ZERO to do with the articles I posted. If you read that you would know.

Guess you have to be chalked up as one of those old dogs that can't be taught a new trick....

Again how do you take the general and make them the not general.