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Old 06-22-2013, 02:08 PM   #29
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gm needs to ditch the 5th gen as fast as they can and start from scratch.
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Why?
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Old 06-22-2013, 02:13 PM   #31
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because they're heavy and slow.
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Old 06-22-2013, 02:18 PM   #32
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because they're heavy and slow.
You mean like by switching to the alpha chasis?
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Old 06-22-2013, 02:19 PM   #33
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You mean like by switching to the zeta chasis?
aren't they already on the zeta chassis?
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aren't they already on the zeta chassis?
Sorry, meant alpha. Got them backwards, sorry.
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Old 06-22-2013, 03:43 PM   #35
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because they're heavy and slow.
They're still selling well so......
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gm needs to ditch the 5th gen as fast as they can and start from scratch.

Least we all forget this all started not as a HP or Pony Car war again but an attempt to remarket and revitalize sales based on retro, which at the time was the in thing.
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You mean like by switching to the alpha chasis?

lol nice editing and deleting my posts.
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Old 06-23-2013, 09:54 AM   #38
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lol nice editing and deleting my posts.
Huh? I just edited my post. I got the chasis' backwards - and posted that.
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Would be nice to see a return of Trans Am...especially if they stick to true production vehicles. Nascar is boring...need to allow teams to do whatever they want. You want 1000 hp...fine gotta make it to the end
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Would be nice to see a return of Trans Am...especially if they stick to true production vehicles. Nascar is boring...need to allow teams to do whatever they want. You want 1000 hp...fine gotta make it to the end
Haha things would definitely get interesting. Though I feel like the team with the most money would always win. It'd be like watching baseball
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Old 06-25-2013, 07:19 AM   #41
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Would be nice to see a return of Trans Am...especially if they stick to true production vehicles. Nascar is boring...need to allow teams to do whatever they want. You want 1000 hp...fine gotta make it to the end
Even the Trans am series had rules. The problem with Nascar is that it's run like a Nazi concentration camp. The drivers aren't even allowed to speak their minds without getting the gas chamber.

Anyways. All this back and fourth with these manufacturers is really putting a strain on my wallet. I can't wait to see what ford does with the next Mustang.
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Old 06-25-2013, 07:53 AM   #42
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Even the Trans am series had rules. The problem with Nascar is that it's run like a Nazi concentration camp. The drivers aren't even allowed to speak their minds without getting the gas chamber.

Anyways. All this back and fourth with these manufacturers is really putting a strain on my wallet. I can't wait to see what ford does with the next Mustang.
Umm I wouldn't use that analogy; not appropriate.

The problem with Nascar is there's nothing going on at the track that even remotely looks like anything that you can do on the street; including the appearance of the cars.

A Trans Am series would be with production cars that people can buy and drive on the street. With the exception of all the sponsor stickers and some safety items, the track cars will be (and look) virtually the same as the street cars. This has a great amount of appeal for fans who like to associate with their favorite team/driver, much like someone who wants to wear a Kobe Bryant jersey even though they obviously aren't a pro basketball player or a member of the Lakers.

It's also great for the manufacturers because they can put the street versions in show rooms and advertise the heck out of their racing involvement. Fans like that sort of thing so it's good for sales. And now that so many tracks offer HPDE events fans can get out on the track and actually experience driving their car like the pros.

It would be great for the fans, great for the manufacturers, and great for motorsports in general.
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