2014 Chevrolet SS Priced at $44,470

[Stew]

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

The Cruze is as agressive looking as the Charger?

Haha, yeah, i was thinking, did Chevy do a MAJOR refresh i don't know about?

[FenwickHockey65]

They were supposed to.

[Cmicasa the Great XvX]

To Stew.. I posted a picture of the CHARGER.. Super-Bee or not, my point stands. In reality the LOOK of the SBee and the SRT from the front are only differentiated by alas.. more black paint. If I were to buy an SS and desired the same look.. a quick run to Autozone, some masking tape and paper would do the job.. a far slicker interior to boot


the new ZETA revisions dropped on the upcoming SS. Check it out.. I won't get into a back and forth with U son.. it's beneath me.. and I can get down...


To the CRUZE comments.. the front end of the Cruze is somewhat aggressive, almost looks like a mini G8. Of course I was exaggerating, but I apologize if it went over your head. To get the subtleties sometimes takes thought. But alas.. U seem like a Mopar fan.. and the point then is moot

[Stew]

Originally Posted by Cmicasa the Great XvX

To Stew.. I posted a picture of the CHARGER.. Super-Bee or not, my point stands. In reality the LOOK of the SBee and the SRT from the front are only differentiated by alas.. more black paint. If I were to buy an SS and desired the same look.. a quick run to Autozone, some masking tape and paper would do the job.. a far slicker interior to boot


the new ZETA revisions dropped on the upcoming SS. Check it out.. I won't get into a back and forth with U son.. it's beneath me.. and I can get down...


To the CRUZE comments.. the front end of the Cruze is somewhat aggressive, almost looks like a mini G8. Of course I was exaggerating, but I apologize if it went over your head. To get the subtleties sometimes takes thought. But alas.. U seem like a Mopar fan.. and the point then is moot

LOL, I showed you there is a HUGE difference between the SRT8 and other Chargers in looks, as far as the black paint, you can get that portion painted body color, it is a factory option. And slicker interior, have you ever been in an 11 plus charger???? The interior is fantastic! The materials are first rate (soft touch, high quality cloth or leather, if is looks like aluminum or brushed metal, it actually IS), the uConnect 8.4 is so easy to use and the thing can be loaded like a full on lux car. I have been in a few and the difference between the previous model is truly massive and while the style is different it gives up NOTHING to the SS (well, except for the HUD, love the HUDs). As for the SRT interior, it gets it's own style. You get SRT specific seating, steering wheel, detials, and stitching. Go sit in one, but since you apparently a GM only fan, the point would be moot....

The Cruze is a good looking car, but nothing like the G8 and definatly cannot be desribed as aggressive





As for Mopar, yes i am a Mopar Fan, and a GM fan, and a Ford Fan, and a Toyota fan (well, older Supras and MR2s and the origional toyata truck, and a Honda fan, well, I am just a car fan.

Probably my favorite American Hi po sedan remains this



And GM was able to get that from this:



So the SS looks are a will issue, not a skill issue.

Of course on the interior side, give me Charger, SS, or even a Cruze interior any day of the week:

[lrdvadr]

Probably my favorite American Hi po sedan remains this




I agree. I love driving my 96 Impala SS more than any of the other cars I own.

[HeavyIOM]

How would the 96 impala make for a DD?

[Cmicasa the Great XvX]

Originally Posted by Stew

LOL, I showed you there is a HUGE difference between the SRT8 and other Chargers in looks, as far as the black paint, you can get that portion painted body color, it is a factory option. And slicker interior, have you ever been in an 11 plus charger???? The interior is fantastic! The materials are first rate (soft touch, high quality cloth or leather, if is looks like aluminum or brushed metal, it actually IS), the uConnect 8.4 is so easy to use and the thing can be loaded like a full on lux car. I have been in a few and the difference between the previous model is truly massive and while the style is different it gives up NOTHING to the SS (well, except for the HUD, love the HUDs). As for the SRT interior, it gets it's own style. You get SRT specific seating, steering wheel, detials, and stitching. Go sit in one, but since you apparently a GM only fan, the point would be moot....

The Cruze is a good looking car, but nothing like the G8 and definatly cannot be desribed as aggressive





As for Mopar, yes i am a Mopar Fan, and a GM fan, and a Ford Fan, and a Toyota fan (well, older Supras and MR2s and the origional toyata truck, and a Honda fan, well, I am just a car fan.

Probably my favorite American Hi po sedan remains this


So the SS looks are a will issue, not a skill issue.

Of course on the interior side, give me Charger, SS, or even a Cruze interior any day of the week:

Sticking to the point. and not veering off as this thread had done.. The Cruze vs G8 FRONT.. FRONT.. FRONT.. is about as agressive looking, but alas the Cruze is a compact car meant for economic, downsized driving and not a perfromance sedan meant for tight cornering and burn-outs... (altho it could be GM with just some quick supension upgrades and the Verano's Turbo 2.0L).

I've driven an '11 SRT.. a 12 RT and a V6 '13 Charger.. and the interior is MEH at best... ironically it looks as "nice" as a 2009 Pontiac G8's. Of Course it is a Dodge.. so it's expected.



On a side I don't support Italian, Japanese, Korean, or German companies, so I'm a bit biased. While I recognize the great styling of certain models, and even engineering.. Dodge ain't it. And If I wanted an SS to look as Juvenile as the Charger SRT, again.. I'd spray-paint it

[MEDISIN]

Originally Posted by Stew

WRONG, your weight is WAY low, try 3900-4000 pounds for the SS, heck the lightest Camaro SS is around 3850! I am sorry, but "anything in it's price range?" Not stock for stock, the Charger SRT, Challenger SRT, Even the 300C SRT is in it's price range and quicker, not to mention the Camaro SS, SS 1LE, Mustang GT, Boss 302 (well it would have been if still built LOL). It will be a low 13 second car with maybe a VERY rare high 12 (it is heavier with less HP than a Camaro SS wihich is a high 12/low 13 car with the LS3/manual). And at it's time, other cars that will run with it BMW 135, BMW 335i, Subaru WRX/STi, Genesis 5.0 R-Spec. And no the GXP didn't even beat down the old 06-10 SRT8s, the only test were they were put head to head they times and numbers were basically identical.

Stew can't get over his Chrysler complex to understand that some people will simply prefer the SS over the outdated, stale as yesterday's toast Dodge Charger. The Camaro, Mustang, and 135 are all coupe's Stew. We're talking about sedans. The 335i is small and underpowered. The SRT8 Charger and Genesis R-Spec are several thousand dollars more.

Originally Posted by Stew

I also noticed you posted a picture of the Superbee with it's graphics, that btw is suppoed to look a little Immature, instead of the Regular SRT8 which will be the actual competitor.

As if you know anything about Superbee pictures after being caught trying to pass off the full price SRT8 red/black interior as a Superbee in post #168.

Originally Posted by Stew

And I don't mean to knock on the SS so much and believe compared to the German sedans in it's size and price braket it is a bargain, I am just upset Chevy half-assed it.

Strictly you're maligned opinion nothing more. Chevrolet is not creating a RWD sedan market in the U.S., that's Cadillac territory. The new Impala solidifies this. The fact they brought the Commodore over at all is surprising and a nod toward GM enthusiasts, nothing more. Same reason they built the CTS-V wagon - because they could, not because it was profitable.

Originally Posted by Stew

LOL, I showed you there is a HUGE difference between the SRT8 and other Chargers in looks, as far as the black paint, you can get that portion painted body color, it is a factory option. And slicker interior, have you ever been in an 11 plus charger???? The interior is fantastic! The materials are first rate (soft touch, high quality cloth or leather, if is looks like aluminum or brushed metal, it actually IS), the uConnect 8.4 is so easy to use and the thing can be loaded like a full on lux car. I have been in a few and the difference between the previous model is truly massive and while the style is different it gives up NOTHING to the SS (well, except for the HUD, love the HUDs). As for the SRT interior, it gets it's own style. You get SRT specific seating, steering wheel, detials, and stitching. Go sit in one, but since you apparently a GM only fan, the point would be moot....

I have driven the 2013 V6 and R/T Chargers. I've driven the 2013 V6 Challenger, the 2009 and 2012 Challenger SRT's and I've driven the 2013 Chrysler 300 Touring. Fine cars all of them but "fantastic interior" as you say is not an expression that comes to mind. The 300 interior is good. The rest are typical Dodge. I'm not saying GM leads the world in interiors but the new Impala, SS sedan, CTS are significantly better than anything Dodge offers. Go drive a Jaguar XJ, Audi S8, Mercedes S550. THOSE are "fantastic interiors".

[Stew]

Originally Posted by MEDISIN

Stew can't get over his Chrysler complex to understand that some people will simply prefer the SS over the outdated, stale as yesterday's toast Dodge Charger. The Camaro, Mustang, and 135 are all coupe's Stew. We're talking about sedans. The 335i is small and underpowered. The SRT8 Charger and Genesis R-Spec are several thousand dollars more.



As if you know anything about Superbee pictures after being caught trying to pass off the full price SRT8 red/black interior as a Superbee in post #168.



Strictly you're maligned opinion nothing more. Chevrolet is not creating a RWD sedan market in the U.S., that's Cadillac territory. The new Impala solidifies this. The fact they brought the Commodore over at all is surprising and a nod toward GM enthusiasts, nothing more. Same reason they built the CTS-V wagon - because they could, not because it was profitable.



I have driven the 2013 V6 and R/T Chargers. I've driven the 2013 V6 Challenger, the 2009 and 2012 Challenger SRT's and I've driven the 2013 Chrysler 300 Touring. Fine cars all of them but "fantastic interior" as you say is not an expression that comes to mind. The 300 interior is good. The rest are typical Dodge. I'm not saying GM leads the world in interiors but the new Impala, SS sedan, CTS are significantly better than anything Dodge offers. Go drive a Jaguar XJ, Audi S8, Mercedes S550. THOSE are "fantastic interiors".

Your opinions too sir, we are allowed to have them and I am sure some people will prefer the SS, just nowhere near 10000 a year And no, i did nothing but skim over your post because i know it is the same thing that has always been hashed over and over and it is officially old, lets revisit in a few months when the SRT is probven to be quicker and when the SS isn''t selling

[Stew]

Originally Posted by lrdvadr

Probably my favorite American Hi po sedan remains this




I agree. I love driving my 96 Impala SS more than any of the other cars I own.

Yes, i loved what GM did with these cars. Never got to own one myself, but did have a 96 Caprice with the LT1/B4U "sport" suspension (apprently had the same spring rates as the Impala SS, but not the namebrand shocks or wider rear end and the springs were taller, but man there was just something about how that big old boat drove that put a smile on my face. Probably the one car I miss more than all the others.

[Stew]

Originally Posted by Cmicasa the Great XvX

Sticking to the point. and not veering off as this thread had done.. The Cruze vs G8 FRONT.. FRONT.. FRONT.. is about as agressive looking, but alas the Cruze is a compact car meant for economic, downsized driving and not a perfromance sedan meant for tight cornering and burn-outs... (altho it could be GM with just some quick supension upgrades and the Verano's Turbo 2.0L).

I've driven an '11 SRT.. a 12 RT and a V6 '13 Charger.. and the interior is MEH at best... ironically it looks as "nice" as a 2009 Pontiac G8's. Of Course it is a Dodge.. so it's expected.



On a side I don't support Italian, Japanese, Korean, or German companies, so I'm a bit biased. While I recognize the great styling of certain models, and even engineering.. Dodge ain't it. And If I wanted an SS to look as Juvenile as the Charger SRT, again.. I'd spray-paint it

your opinion too, your biased GM opinion, most people, including the mags, find the Charger interior a very good one, high quality, and is just as good as the SS interior whether you want it to be or not. And again, the black on the front end is the person's choice, they also come with that portion body color if preferred. Again, I actually like understated, to a point and the SS just has nothing to realy set it apart from looking like a G8 and 2013 Impala had a baby. The fact is that GMs other offerings are what puts the SS style in a bad light. the CTS, the Impala, the ATS ALL do elegance AND aggressive better than the SS, yes I said the 14 Impala looks more aggressive than the SS because it does. And please don't compare the SS interior to the new CTS interior, there truly is no comparison there.

[Stew]

Originally Posted by calebparkin3

How would the 96 impala make for a DD?

I know a few people that have and loved them. i daily drove my Caprice to the tune of 40k miles a year. they also get decent fual milage, my Caprice averaged around 24MPG, my Roadmaster averaged 26 (Caprice had 2.93 gears, RM had 2.63s). That was better than my 97 Crown Vic that got roughly 20 no matter how I drove it haha and the B-bodies were of course MUCH quicker..

[shaffe]

Originally Posted by Stew

your opinion too, your biased GM opinion, most people, including the mags, find the Charger interior a very good one, high quality, and is just as good as the SS interior whether you want it to be or not. And again, the black on the front end is the person's choice, they also come with that portion body color if preferred. Again, I actually like understated, to a point and the SS just has nothing to realy set it apart from looking like a G8 and 2013 Impala had a baby. The fact is that GMs other offerings are what puts the SS style in a bad light. the CTS, the Impala, the ATS ALL do elegance AND aggressive better than the SS, yes I said the 14 Impala looks more aggressive than the SS because it does. And please don't compare the SS interior to the new CTS interior, there truly is no comparison there.

Im going to agree with Stew partially on this one. While the Dodge interior is nicer than in recent years, it still looks dated and bad IMO.

The SS Interior IMO is way better.

The part I agree with Stew on, is that GM has put out some incredible designs that look aggressive, sporty, classy and muscular. And I know they were handicapped with this one bc they had to work with what Holden came up with, but to me, this car lacks any soul in the looks department. To my eyes, the SS is a boring design. I bet this car is gonna perform great, I bet its going to be a blast to drive, and I bet everybody that gets one will love it, but the exterior is so boring.

The SS to me, is about as exciting as a Buick. Not saying its ugly, I think Buick is turning out some great looking cars, the SS looks good as a regular sedan. Not as a sport sedan to me. it doesnt have that wow factor that I think a sport sedan should have.

[Stew]

Originally Posted by shaffe

Im going to agree with Stew partially on this one. While the Dodge interior is nicer than in recent years, it still looks dated and bad IMO.

The SS Interior IMO is way better.

The part I agree with Stew on, is that GM has put out some incredible designs that look aggressive, sporty, classy and muscular. And I know they were handicapped with this one bc they had to work with what Holden came up with, but to me, this car lacks any soul in the looks department. To my eyes, the SS is a boring design. I bet this car is gonna perform great, I bet its going to be a blast to drive, and I bet everybody that gets one will love it, but the exterior is so boring.

The SS to me, is about as exciting as a Buick. Not saying its ugly, I think Buick is turning out some great looking cars, the SS looks good as a regular sedan. Not as a sport sedan to me. it doesnt have that wow factor that I think a sport sedan should have.

One thing to realize with the Charger too is that that interior is now 4 years old, so i see the dated part, but it is still a good quality interior and only lacks the HUD in features, style is indeed subjective, but it will be getting an update next year that should be as thorough as the 13 Ram and 14 Grand Cherokee, can't wait, though the more exciting part is that the 8 speed auto should become standard across the board. of course any SS comparisons will be with the current Charger and not the updated one as it happened in 08 when the G8 came out the last year before the Charger got a major powertrain upgrade for 09 and of course was never retested.

Now the exterior along with the way it is being sold gets to me. I believe if they were selling like a regular car, i could honestly see it hitting it sales target or at least coming close, but this special order only stuff is what is going to kill it and why it will be another 19 years before we see anoth RWD Chevy Sports sedan once this one is killed off.