MISSED hammer ATTACK ON MY CAMARO

[AdamZ]

Originally Posted by ChrisBlair

First victim of what? A guy smacking up your car? Firearms aren't for shooting everything in sight you don't like, and the purpose of a concealed carry weapon isn't to prevent dents in your Camaro

You can't just pull out a gat and waste him for holding a hammer and walking up to you. And you also can't just pull out the rod and warn him away by showing it off.

In the USA today there's a lot of talk about guns. It's time the USA starts understanding what its talking about. And in TX, if the guy had been shot him for what happened...ask a TX cop what he thinks

And before the BS 'anti-gun' toughguy talk starts: I own more guns than you and have a permit to carry and I think the anti-gunners are loons. We're not talking about anti-gun, we're talking about macho "I'd have killed the guy" bullshit. You're talking about a life here and this is one of the problems in this nation: no respect for life and a lack of humanity.

I would have shot him because I would be in fear of my life. HOWEVER, do we really need a low life like that in this world? Coming after a persons property because they didn't give them a dollar? No **** that he is a worthless waste of blood, skin, and brains.

What this country needs to do it freakin put the drug dealers, gang bangers, murderers, rapist, etc. these pointless waste of space, oxygen, and food, into a damn gas chamber and kill them. They are WORTHLESS.

There is NO need to feed someone who raped a child or woman, or even a man.

There is NO need to support the life of someone who has taken a life.

There is NO need to keep the countless drug dealers who have gotten thousands and thousands of poor souls addicted to drugs. Then forced them into prostitution to support their habits.

There is NO need to keep these people alive.

This world would be SO much better if drug cartels and drug dealers were exterminated like bugs. Sending the US military through the street of LA, Detroit, Cincinnati, Atlanta so on and so forth and just taking each gang banger out one by one, women and men alike. Try their best to save and rehabilitate the children.

What a wonderful world it would be.

But no, we capture them, send them to prison, feed them, let them exercise, let them learn how to better not get caught when they get out, let them learn how to be more dangerous. Great idea.

[jrisebo]

Canada is nice this time of year!

Originally Posted by AdamZ

I would have shot him because I would be in fear of my life. HOWEVER, do we really need a low life like that in this world? Coming after a persons property because they didn't give them a dollar? No **** that he is a worthless waste of blood, skin, and brains.

What this country needs to do it freakin put the drug dealers, gang bangers, murderers, rapist, etc. these pointless waste of space, oxygen, and food, into a damn gas chamber and kill them. They are WORTHLESS.

There is NO need to feed someone who raped a child or woman, or even a man.

There is NO need to support the life of someone who has taken a life.

There is NO need to keep the countless drug dealers who have gotten thousands and thousands of poor souls addicted to drugs. Then forced them into prostitution to support their habits.

There is NO need to keep these people alive.

This world would be SO much better if drug cartels and drug dealers were exterminated like bugs. Sending the US military through the street of LA, Detroit, Cincinnati, Atlanta so on and so forth and just taking each gang banger out one by one, women and men alike. Try their best to save and rehabilitate the children.

What a wonderful world it would be.

But no, we capture them, send them to prison, feed them, let them exercise, let them learn how to better not get caught when they get out, let them learn how to be more dangerous. Great idea.

[AdamZ]

Originally Posted by jrisebo

Canada is nice this time of year!

Amen.

[90503]

Originally Posted by kk0239

Then he got back to his stuff and started walking to towards me with a huge hammer in his hand.

The moment my brain processed that it IS a hammer and his intention was to attack..

Perhaps he came back with the hammer to try and convince you he was a skilled craftsman, willing to perform work for the money he requested...He obviously had his own tools....Or perhaps he wanted to sell you his hammer for a few bucks....But, you percieved it was an attack, so yeah, if not able to speed off, just shoot him....

[Mr. iNCREDIBLE]

Originally Posted by AdamZ

I would have shot him because I would be in fear of my life. HOWEVER, do we really need a low life like that in this world? Coming after a persons property because they didn't give them a dollar? No **** that he is a worthless waste of blood, skin, and brains.

What this country needs to do it freakin put the drug dealers, gang bangers, murderers, rapist, etc. these pointless waste of space, oxygen, and food, into a damn gas chamber and kill them. They are WORTHLESS.

There is NO need to feed someone who raped a child or woman, or even a man.

There is NO need to support the life of someone who has taken a life.

There is NO need to keep the countless drug dealers who have gotten thousands and thousands of poor souls addicted to drugs. Then forced them into prostitution to support their habits.

There is NO need to keep these people alive.

This world would be SO much better if drug cartels and drug dealers were exterminated like bugs. Sending the US military through the street of LA, Detroit, Cincinnati, Atlanta so on and so forth and just taking each gang banger out one by one, women and men alike. Try their best to save and rehabilitate the children.

What a wonderful world it would be.

But no, we capture them, send them to prison, feed them, let them exercise, let them learn how to better not get caught when they get out, let them learn how to be more dangerous. Great idea.

ok personally I don't want to live in a country that sends the military into the civilian populous to exterminate suspected whatevers, the last I checked the constitution of this country stated guilty until proven innocent in a court of law by a jury of your peers.

now, with that said...

I do believe that these morons like drug dealers, gang bangers, murders and other various violent psychopaths should all be dropped off via air drop onto an island in the middle of nowhere (after they are convicted of course), that they cannot escape from, with nothing more than the clothes they were arrested in and made to survive on their own with others of their kind. Then they can corn hole each other to their hearts content.

They will either learn to survive, or kill each other off, but other than some jet fuel and a disposable parachute it won't cost the tax payers anything.

The island needs to be watched via sat-cam and if there is even an inkling that they might escape, bomb the fluck outta them..


I also do believe that if there is video evidence or more than 6 collaborating witnesses of any type of mass shooting, that the entire court process should be limited to no more than 2 weeks and $50K in fees (police, attorney, court, whatever). There should be no appeals and no get out of jail free cards..

If you are caught on video or there are a half dozen witnesses, you are done, the trial would be nothing more than a official record of your actions and conviction by a jury.

Then idiots like James Holmes and Jared Lee Loughner would not be wasting our time and resources on a pointless trial and life sentence.

[DuskSS]

Originally Posted by AdamZ

I would have shot him because I would be in fear of my life. HOWEVER, do we really need a low life like that in this world? Coming after a persons property because they didn't give them a dollar? No **** that he is a worthless waste of blood, skin, and brains.

What this country needs to do it freakin put the drug dealers, gang bangers, murderers, rapist, etc. these pointless waste of space, oxygen, and food, into a damn gas chamber and kill them. They are WORTHLESS.

There is NO need to feed someone who raped a child or woman, or even a man.

There is NO need to support the life of someone who has taken a life.

There is NO need to keep the countless drug dealers who have gotten thousands and thousands of poor souls addicted to drugs. Then forced them into prostitution to support their habits.

There is NO need to keep these people alive.

This world would be SO much better if drug cartels and drug dealers were exterminated like bugs. Sending the US military through the street of LA, Detroit, Cincinnati, Atlanta so on and so forth and just taking each gang banger out one by one, women and men alike. Try their best to save and rehabilitate the children.

What a wonderful world it would be.

But no, we capture them, send them to prison, feed them, let them exercise, let them learn how to better not get caught when they get out, let them learn how to be more dangerous. Great idea.

Amen.
Waste of resources

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[DuskSS]

Originally Posted by Mr. iNCREDIBLE

ok personally I don't want to live in a country that sends the military into the civilian populous to exterminate suspected whatevers, the last I checked the constitution of this country stated guilty until proven innocent in a court of law by a jury of your peers.

now, with that said...

I do believe that these morons like drug dealers, gang bangers, murders and other various violent psychopaths should all be dropped off via air drop onto an island in the middle of nowhere (after they are convicted of course), that they cannot escape from, with nothing more than the clothes they were arrested in and made to survive on their own with others of their kind. Then they can corn hole each other to their hearts content.

They will either learn to survive, or kill each other off, but other than some jet fuel and a disposable parachute it won't cost the tax payers anything.

The island needs to be watched via sat-cam and if there is even an inkling that they might escape, bomb the fluck outta them..


I also do believe that if there is video evidence or more than 6 collaborating witnesses of any type of mass shooting, that the entire court process should be limited to no more than 2 weeks and $50K in fees (police, attorney, court, whatever). There should be no appeals and no get out of jail free cards..

If you are caught on video or there are a half dozen witnesses, you are done, the trial would be nothing more than a official record of your actions and conviction by a jury.

Then idiots like James Holmes and Jared Lee Loughner would not be wasting our time and resources on a pointless trial and life sentence.

I like how you think.
And then we build a sea fence around it and stock it with sharks.. hungry sharks..
And the island with lions and tigers and bears..

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[trademaster]

Originally Posted by MrWray

What if you had a vehicle behind you, in front of you and had no avenue of escape? What would you do then?

Be a victim?

And a hammer IS considered a dangerous weapon that can cause fatal injuries

If this, if that. . . that wasn't the circumstance. Even if it were the circumstance, you think you are going to have two cars in front of and behind you so close that you can't maneuver and get out in a matter of seconds? How is he going to break through your window and get leverage through that window to hit you while your car is moving? It's a hammer, not a chain saw. I'll toss some ifs your way as well. What if the guy wanted to sell him the hammer? What if he was going to hit the car with no intention of inflicting harm to the driver? Though that's wrong and a crime, it is still not justification for use of deadly force. Firearms are a last resort. LAST resort.

[Rhyder]

you did the right thing by getting out of there.....never get out of your vehicle and never escalate.

Glad it worked out

[Deki]

Originally Posted by Rhyder

you did the right thing by getting out of there.....never get out of your vehicle and never escalate.

Glad it worked out

A lot of guys have an ego that doesn't let them do that and they eventually end up tangling with the wrong person. It's never good.

[2010SS2SS]

Hammer is a weapon! If he had swung it at the drivers window there is intent to do harm and yes you could have shot him.

[Deki]

Originally Posted by 2010SS2SS

Hammer is a weapon! If he had swung it at the drivers window there is intent to do harm and yes you could have shot him.

A hammer is NOT a weapon. A hammer is a tool. Can it be used as a dangerous instrument? Yes. So can a pencil. In OP's story, he wouldn't have been justified in shooting him just because a guy was walking towards him with a hammer.

[Firefighter]

Just as an observation and also interjecting my professional opinion I've seen murders as a result of a hammer attack and obviously I've seen them by gun. They can be equally gruesome.

Also as a matter of fact they used small sledge hammers in the beef slaughter houses for years...

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[Mr. iNCREDIBLE]

Originally Posted by DuskSS

I like how you think.
And then we build a sea fence around it and stock it with sharks.. hungry sharks..
And the island with lions and tigers and bears..

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damn straight.. only I wouldn't want to put Lions, I would think Dingo's and Hyena's would do just fine.