GM & Ford join to develop 9 and 10 speed auto transmissions - Page 2

v6sonoma · 04-15-2013, 10:38 AM

It will be good for the both of them. Better to work together then against each other while the Asian companies work with each other.

FenwickHockey65 · 04-15-2013, 10:47 AM

They've already teamed up on existing 6-speed transmissions.

trewyn15 · 04-15-2013, 10:50 AM

They should have teamed up with the makers of the Fast and Furious series also..

its a syn · 04-15-2013, 10:55 AM

Is it a Chord or a Fordolet?

GretchenGotGrowl · 04-15-2013, 11:29 AM

At some point, wouldn't continuously variable transmissions be a better idea?

G8GT4now · 04-15-2013, 12:56 PM

Huffy already did a 10 speed, this is old technology.

malave7567 · 04-15-2013, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Lawdog1911

Jammin thru the gears like a semi

JK

This is exactly what I thought of.

are the new engine lines going to have extremely narrow torque ranges, or are we just going to have that many overdrive gears?

KMPrenger · 04-15-2013, 03:59 PM

I won't complain about too many speeds, as long as they are smart enough to make it so that in sport mode it locks out the top 2 or 3 gears and holds the other lower gears longer. Also in manual mode I'd hate to have to tap shift through 8+ gears, so would be nice in manual mode to remove some of the in-between gears and only make 6 - 7 of them usable. Should be pretty easy to do with some smart programming in the TCM.

mikeyg36 · 04-15-2013, 05:56 PM

I miss the old days where it was 8 cyls matched to a 3 speed tranny. Now we have 3 cyls matched to 8 speed trannys

MEDISIN · 04-15-2013, 05:59 PM

Just a matter of time before the Ford engineered portion of each transmission fails...

mikeyg36 · 04-15-2013, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MEDISIN

Just a matter of time before the Ford engineered portion of each transmission fails...

At least it's not Chrysler

sspolo · 04-15-2013, 07:09 PM

Good for fuel economy but it would suck on an automatic if you can feel the upshift or downshift every time.

KMPrenger · 04-15-2013, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by sspolo

Good for fuel economy but it would suck on an automatic if you can feel the upshift or downshift every time.

You'll never feel the shift unless you are on it hard under WOT, and even then, with all the Torque management built in to the software these days, it still can be difficult to really get a good kick out of it. (thats where tuning comes in!) AT WOT, you want to feel those shifts...adds to the fun!

derklug · 04-15-2013, 11:00 PM

When it breaks on your Silverado, you can blame Ford. When your neighbors F-150 takes a dump, he can blame GM.
The programing strategy doesn't have to use all of the gears from bottom to top. Under hard accel, the transmission could go 1st, 3rd, 6th, 10th. It's all in how the engineers program it. The extra gears just help keep the engine in the optimal range at any speed and load.

04-15-2013, 10:38 AM	#15
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04-15-2013, 10:47 AM	#16
FenwickHockey65 General Motors Aficionado Drives: 2023 GMC Canyon, 2023 Expedition Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 37,375 View My Garage	They've already teamed up on existing 6-speed transmissions. __________________ 2023 GMC Canyon Elevation 2023 Ford Expedition SSV (State-Issued)

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its a syn B.O.D. 02/16/10 Drives: 2010 SGM Sp. Edition 2017 RS Conver Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Albia,Iowa Posts: 3,959 View My Garage	Is it a Chord or a Fordolet? __________________

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GretchenGotGrowl Drives: 11 F150 EB/13 Sonic RS/15 Z06 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Little Rock, AR Posts: 7,127 View My Garage	At some point, wouldn't continuously variable transmissions be a better idea? __________________ New Ride -- 2015 Z06 2LZ (stock) -- Journal Old Ride -- 2012 Camaro 2LT/RS (647 RWHP & 726 RWTQ) -- Build Thread

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G8GT4now Drives: 14 SS Sedan Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 474	Huffy already did a 10 speed, this is old technology.

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KMPrenger Drives: 16 Camaro SS, 15 Colorado Join Date: May 2009 Location: Jefferson City, Missouri Posts: 13,967	I won't complain about too many speeds, as long as they are smart enough to make it so that in sport mode it locks out the top 2 or 3 gears and holds the other lower gears longer. Also in manual mode I'd hate to have to tap shift through 8+ gears, so would be nice in manual mode to remove some of the in-between gears and only make 6 - 7 of them usable. Should be pretty easy to do with some smart programming in the TCM. __________________ 2016 Camaro 1SS - 8-speed - NPP - Black bowties 2010 Camaro 1LT V6 (Sold. I will miss her!)

04-15-2013, 05:56 PM	#23
mikeyg36 Drives: 2015 Z/28 #533 Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: NY Posts: 6,732	I miss the old days where it was 8 cyls matched to a 3 speed tranny. Now we have 3 cyls matched to 8 speed trannys

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MEDISIN Drives: 2011 CTS-V Sedan Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chapel Hill, NC Posts: 1,505 View My Garage	Just a matter of time before the Ford engineered portion of each transmission fails...

04-15-2013, 07:09 PM	#26
sspolo Drives: 2014 Camaro SS 1LE Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Vancouver, WA Posts: 562	Good for fuel economy but it would suck on an automatic if you can feel the upshift or downshift every time.

04-15-2013, 11:00 PM	#28
derklug Drives: 12 Boss 302 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Grand Rapids, Mi Posts: 1,369	When it breaks on your Silverado, you can blame Ford. When your neighbors F-150 takes a dump, he can blame GM. The programing strategy doesn't have to use all of the gears from bottom to top. Under hard accel, the transmission could go 1st, 3rd, 6th, 10th. It's all in how the engineers program it. The extra gears just help keep the engine in the optimal range at any speed and load. __________________ The biggest mistakes in life come when you know exactly what you are doing.