Surrounded by Ricers

[MBS]

If it aint from Detroit it just aint right ..
Detroit Muscle Power ,
Japanize wanna be's.

[SteelCamaro]

Originally Posted by jasonpope2003

I have no words for your logic..
THAT ladies and gentlemen is why America is dying.

Why, because people choose to buy the better quality product and get a bit more value for their hard-earned money? I hope every TV, appliance, etc. you have in your house is American then. That means no Sony, Toshiba, Panasonic, Nintendo, Samsung, Philips, LG, Hitachi, Sharp, etc.. Even buying a simple DVD or Blu-Ray disc supports foreign companies via royalty fees. This isn't the 1950s anymore, we live in a more global world now than ever.

Trust me, I'm all for supporting American products. Over the last 25 years we've had 2 Explorers, 1 Trailblazer, 3 Mercurys, and 1 Camaro. Where I work, all the racking we purchased is made from American steel, and every fork truck we own is American-made. But if a foreign company makes a product that is lightyears ahead of American counterparts in terms of quality, of course people are going to jump on it, including myself.

[2010SS2SS]

So what is a domestic that sounds like a fart machine called? I've seen quite a few.

P.O.S.

[Ken_]

Originally Posted by jasonpope2003

Sorry for us old folks that will always be the definition.
and they are all still ricers.. weather it be a 1200 hp Supra or a ghettoed out Civic with a wing bigger than its hood... still a ricer.

Oh another one of those butthurt people that bought foreign cars so long and is upset we had to help save our OWN industry and country.

please.. I will never buy another foreign car again. time to support the home industries and stop making Japan rich.

What is an "old-timer"? If it weren't for GMs move to bring back the Camaro, what would you be driving right now?

Support our OWN country? How much of OUR money gets poured into Holden and vice-versa? Face it, brother... the world is global now, and if it wasn't for all the "ricers" out there from back in the day, you wouldn't even have a fraction of the nice tech that we have on the Camaro now. If it wasn't for "ricers" doing swaps, you wouldn't have G-Machines and Pro-Touring cars.

What do they call foreign cars in Japan? They call them by what they are named, and there's a crap-load of vintage American muscle and bikes there tuned, built and driven by dudes who eat rice, drink massive amounts of beer, cruise for chicks, rip the hell out of the 400m (no such thing as the 1320), make trips to the USA each year to buy up stuff that they need to support their habit of American muscle. You name it, it's there from lead sleds, top fuel, pro mod, flathead V8s, and on and on and on. Hell, they probably know more about being American than you. Wake up man... it's not 1981 anymore.

[tpower]

Originally Posted by MBS

If it aint from Detroit it just aint right ..
Detroit Muscle Power ,
Japanize wanna be's.

wanna return your car back to Canada then

[Mchlgrrsn]

Originally Posted by tpower

wanna return your car back to Canada then

i was waiting for that one .. saw it coming a mile away

[Ken_]

May as well return those rims to China, as well.

[DuskSS]

Originally Posted by Ken_

What is an "old-timer"? If it weren't for GMs move to bring back the Camaro, what would you be driving right now?

Support our OWN country? How much of OUR money gets poured into Holden and vice-versa? Face it, brother... the world is global now, and if it wasn't for all the "ricers" out there from back in the day, you wouldn't even have a fraction of the nice tech that we have on the Camaro now. If it wasn't for "ricers" doing swaps, you wouldn't have G-Machines and Pro-Touring cars.

What do they call foreign cars in Japan? They call them by what they are named, and there's a crap-load of vintage American muscle and bikes there tuned, built and driven by dudes who eat rice, drink massive amounts of beer, cruise for chicks, rip the hell out of the 400m (no such thing as the 1320), make trips to the USA each year to buy up stuff that they need to support their habit of American muscle. You name it, it's there from lead sleds, top fuel, pro mod, flathead V8s, and on and on and on. Hell, they probably know more about being American than you. Wake up man... it's not 1981 anymore.

I weep for our country and our misplaced values. hell I find it ironic as hell that some of the most popular cars in America come from 2 countries that tried to kill our country and are now doing it dollar by dollar instead of bullet by bullet.

with attitudes like some of these it's only a matter of time before all the American Brands die.
This is why we had to bail them out. People would rather have a crapbox Subaru than a Ford.
Or a BMW rather than a Lincoln.

and to answer your question I would have still been driving a Ford Mustang/Cobra like I did all the years the Camaro sucked in comparison. (10 Mustangs since 1979)
and the FEW super wealthy Japanese that do buy American for toys are not enough to sustain our Auto industry.
Trust me in my 10 years traveling the world with the USN I can count the number of American cars I saw overseas on my fingers and toes.

very sad and I would bet within whats left of my life we do see the demise of the American Auto industry since people want their Honda's and Toyota's instead of something that at stays here.

Many of our cars components have always been assembled out of the country but at least the majority money is still coming home to Detroit instead of Tokyo.

[jd10013]

whats kind of ironic is GM received a bailout from the government to keep running without serious restructuring (I don't for a second think they would have gone under without the bailout). the government borrows 40 cents on the dollar, most of which from the Chinese and the Japanese (2 largest holders of government debt). so in a sense, it was the Asians that bailed out GM and Chrysler. guess everybody better continue buying those "ricers" or they wont have the money to loan us anymore.

serously though, funny how some peopel think this should be a one way street. they ignore the fact the US is the largest manufacturer in the world. if global trade were stopped, many US business's would be devastated. Hell, 75% of GM's sales are outside the US. what would happen to them if other countries took up the same ignorant "buy insert your favorite country" mantra as some here do? out of GM's roughly 9 million cars sold, only about 2.5 million of those are sold here.

[thahemp]

Groupthink is a b!tch. Sure you can't buy 100% American, but this global economy argument is a red-herring. It is ignorant at best, and the cause of our economic problems in reality.

Trade laws aren't fair. You guys want to spend your money indiscriminately based on price. The reason their products are cheaper is because they allow workers in their country to be exploited, and manipulate trade policy intentionally to undercut the world market.

It's going to be more expensive to buy American. You may not always get the best quality either. At some point though, you have to quit sh!tting in your own backyard. Save yourselves or start saving your money to move to a country that hasn't been ravaged by its own ignorance.

[DuskSS]

Originally Posted by jd10013

whats kind of ironic is GM received a bailout from the government to keep running without serious restructuring (I don't for a second think they would have gone under without the bailout). the government borrows 40 cents on the dollar, most of which from the Chinese and the Japanese (2 largest holders of government debt). so in a sense, it was the Asians that bailed out GM and Chrysler. guess everybody better continue buying those "ricers" or they wont have the money to loan us anymore.

serously though, funny how some peopel think this should be a one way street. they ignore the fact the US is the largest manufacturer in the world. if global trade were stopped, many US business's would be devastated. Hell, 75% of GM's sales are outside the US. what would happen to them if other countries took up the same ignorant "buy XXXXX" mantra as some here do?

generally those attitudes are from the younger that don't remember when America could stand on it's own 2 feet and we manufactured and did more here at home than we did from other sources.
Now the Chinese supply everything we buy at Walmart for pennies on the dollar that put American businesses out of business since our labor wont work that cheap.

[jd10013]

Originally Posted by thahemp

Groupthink is a b!tch. Sure you can't buy 100% American, but this global economy argument is a red-herring. It is ignorant at best, and the cause of our economic problems in reality.

Trade laws aren't fair. You guys want to spend your money indiscriminately based on price. The reason their products are cheaper is because they allow workers in their country to be exploited, and manipulate trade policy intentionally to undercut the world market.

It's going to be more expensive to buy American. You may not always get the best quality either. At some point though, you have to quit sh!tting in your own backyard. Save yourselves or start saving your money to move to a country that hasn't been ravaged by its own ignorance.

lol. go price a Camry, accord, altima fusion and Malibu then tell me how much more expensive US cars are. but there's a reason they can sell there cars for more, and still sell more of them.

and the "fairness" of trade laws depends a lot on the county. our trade agreements with japan for instanse pust everybody on equal footing. that's why they build them here.

[thahemp]

Originally Posted by jd10013

lol. go price a Camry, accord, altima fusion and Malibu then tell me how much more expensive US cars are.

and the "fairness" of trade laws depends a lot on the county. our trade agreements with them put everybody on equal footing. that's why they build them here.

Right. OUR trade laws are pretty fair by comparison. That's not what I was talking about. I was referencing mostly Chinese product. Japan is in as bad of shape as we are economically.

[Ken_]

Originally Posted by thahemp

Right. OUR trade laws are pretty fair by comparison. That's not what I was talking about. I was referencing mostly Chinese product. Japan is in as bad of shape as we are economically.