Firearms Section

[kalimus]

Originally Posted by Dangeruss

True...it's just frustrating when a few crazies with a knee jerk reaction change the lives of law abiding citizen's so quickly.

[PsychoZL1]

Originally Posted by Dangeruss

I agree...these state and federal legislatures are cramming this down their constituents throats, and I'm really hoping it will backfire on all of them in the next elections and/or in the courts.

Looks like Colorado just passed their crazy bills.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...ng-resistance/

Looks to me that MagPul will be moving operations then.

Meanwhile in California:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/02/19...hooting-spree/

Interesting how more shootings are occurring in states that are very restrictive concerning firearms. Too bad the lawmakers aren't getting the clue that new laws are NOT going to stop shootings.

[Dangeruss]

Good article.

http://www.press-citizen.com/article...tually-pro-gun

Here is is, so you don't have to link.

Not all gun control advocates oppose private ownership of firearms. But plenty of them insist that only police and military personnel should be allowed to carry guns, and that guns are bad by definition.

Many people declare that in an ideal world, no private person would own a gun, even if they admit that such a radical solution would be difficult to implement. Many insist that abolishing private ownership of guns should at least be the long-term objective.

I’ve heard it posited that my owning a firearm constitutes a public danger even if I have no nefarious intent. The reasoning goes that even if I never use a gun to commit crime, my gun might fall into the hands of a criminal, who might shoot or threaten someone with it — and thus the public’s right to safety trumps my right to own a gun.

I’ve even heard the argument that gun owners, simply by owning guns, make some people afraid, and people have a right not to be afraid.

In a recent column in The Des Moines Register, the odious Donald Kaul demanded that the government “declare the NRA a terrorist organization and make membership illegal.” He added, “If some people refused to give up their guns, that ‘prying the guns from their cold, dead hands’ thing works for me.”

Those who take such positions are not anti-gun. They’re pro-gun. They just want the keeping and bearing of arms restricted to a specially empowered élite: an élite that will act on their behalf to disarm me!

Who will take my gun? Those who demand that I be disarmed won’t risk their own skins to do it, of course: they’ll send goons. Call them police officers, call them soldiers, call them “lawful authority,” call them whatever: if they threaten or initiate armed force against peaceable people at your bidding, they are your hired thugs.

How will they disarm me? Why, by shooting me, if I don’t give up my gun voluntarily! They’ll have to have guns — and a lot of them — in order to take guns away from all the people the government doesn’t think should have them.

I insist that I have a right — an unalienable right, a God-given right if you prefer — to protect myself and my family, with deadly force if necessary. If the government takes away my wherewithal to do so, it deprives me of that natural right — and makes me a slave.

Those who say I have no right to keep and bear arms are advocating a soft form of slavery — which, we must admit, many people approve of. Face it: Liberty isn’t easy. Liberty implies some self-reliance, some responsibilities, which many people find daunting.

Liberty, and citizenship, require that we trust our neighbors to do right. If they do wrong, they’ll have to be stopped, but if they’re not breaking legs, picking pockets or committing fraud, we must assume they’re not going to do those things. Should I, or you, or anyone, be punished or restrained or disarmed — or shot dead — for something that we might do, that we could do, that we might conceivably be thinking about doing?

If the government attempts confiscation of firearms, there will be bloodshed: a lot of it. Those who advocate confiscation will of course stand well out of the line of fire — cheering the government on, in these life-saving operations, and blissfully refusing to see the irony. Or perhaps, like Kaul and others, they’ll justify it on the grounds that people like me simply need killing.

To some, “gun control” means they get to control me — with guns.

[Mr Twisty]

I posted this monday morning in another thread, thought you folks might enjoy.....


So, here it is, 3 in the morning. I live in the country on a state hwy. I hear a pickup idling to a stop just outside the house and the engine shuts off. I grab the .45 and look out the front glass, the same time some dude walks by the front porch and the motion lights come on. He immediately backs up into the shadows (mistake)..... I open the door and peek around the side of the house and there he is trying to hide in the shadows.

Understand, I have a loaded pistol aimed in the direction I'm looking, so safety comes off and I yell at him to get on the ground... no response (mistake). I tell him where he is and that I have a weapon aimed at his head and to GET ON THE GROUND! Down he goes.

He starts telling me who he is and he thought he was at his girlfriends house. Turns out he had a loaded pistol as well. I get his gun and I.D. he says he lives just outside of Ft. Sill, then tells me he lives on my highway 1/2 mile away. Story is full of holes. He's reeking of alcohol. I unloaded his pistol and let him talk, tells me he's Aaron Johnson and new to the area, but he got lost. I know he's full of shit but since I have his name and vehicle info I send him on his way.

Probably should have kept his pistol and let him come back for it tomorrow, just to see him in the day light. Still smells fishy. He don't realize how close he came to getting in a real live shootout at OK Corral

[ShnOmac]

Originally Posted by TAG UR IT

That would be a violation of your 4th amendment Constitutional rights. Unreasonable search and seizures...

They would basically be practicing warrantless searches going into your home. That's the most BS thing I've ever heard. I could never fathom any government passing something like that. If they did, watch out...

I don't even know what to say to this.....

The Biz Pac Review article reports that two of the bill's sponsors made a mistake in putting that provision into the bill. “As it turns out, two of the bill’s sponsors — Sens. Ed Murray and Adam Kline — took a cue from their congressional brethren and didn’t bother reading the bill before signing on to it, the article said.”

Murray, the bill's sponsor admitted that the home inspection provision is “more than likely unconstitutional.”

[CamaroSkooter]

Here's a question then...

If Colorado and Missouri brazenly over-reach and their laws get passed, then wouldn't the immediate lawsuits that followed eventually get all the way to the Supreme Court for a final decision once and for all?

What do we do if the Supreme Court comes back and says that a limit on the number of rounds is Constitutional?

[kalimus]

Originally Posted by CamaroSkooter

Here's a question then...

If Colorado and Missouri brazenly over-reach and their laws get passed, then wouldn't the immediate lawsuits that followed eventually get all the way to the Supreme Court for a final decision once and for all?

What do we do if the Supreme Court comes back and says that a limit on the number of rounds is Constitutional?

If they are not overturned before SCoTUS, then yes it would likely reach that point. Gura. That's all I have to say That man is awesome.

However, if it does reach SCoTUS and they rule it constitutional, then we're screwed. That's why this needs to happen now, while the Heller 5 are still in, and before there is another left leaning justice appointed.

[CHMSC]

Originally Posted by Mr Twisty

I like the bevel vent holes on the hand guard flip up shoulder thingy..... never seen one cut like that, looks good!

it's a Todd Jarrett hand guard by YHM.

Originally Posted by Camaro_Corvette

That thing is sick!

Thanks man!

[Dangeruss]

Looks like my Facebook page to bring Magpul to Texas is gaining steam. I had someone contact me about helping out, and I asked them to get the word out. I had around 25 likes this morning, and now I'm almost at 100! Crazy thing this Facebook.

[Dznts]

Originally Posted by Mr Twisty

I posted this monday morning in another thread, thought you folks might enjoy.....


So, here it is, 3 in the morning. I live in the country on a state hwy. I hear a pickup idling to a stop just outside the house and the engine shuts off. I grab the .45 and look out the front glass, the same time some dude walks by the front porch and the motion lights come on. He immediately backs up into the shadows (mistake)..... I open the door and peek around the side of the house and there he is trying to hide in the shadows.

Understand, I have a loaded pistol aimed in the direction I'm looking, so safety comes off and I yell at him to get on the ground... no response (mistake). I tell him where he is and that I have a weapon aimed at his head and to GET ON THE GROUND! Down he goes.

He starts telling me who he is and he thought he was at his girlfriends house. Turns out he had a loaded pistol as well. I get his gun and I.D. he says he lives just outside of Ft. Sill, then tells me he lives on my highway 1/2 mile away. Story is full of holes. He's reeking of alcohol. I unloaded his pistol and let him talk, tells me he's Aaron Johnson and new to the area, but he got lost. I know he's full of shit but since I have his name and vehicle info I send him on his way.

Probably should have kept his pistol and let him come back for it tomorrow, just to see him in the day light. Still smells fishy. He don't realize how close he came to getting in a real live shootout at OK Corral

That's crazy man

[BullF-16]

Well, since its so tough to add to the firearms collection due to the panic, its time to add to the blade collection. Boomsticks and blades FTW. Last time this happened in 2008 after the election i started a nice BusseCombat collection....also a couple Hawks from RMJ Forge. So, given the current panic....Now this......

Oh well, it should be cool for a while. Come at me trees!!!!

a Youtube vid of them trying to destroy it!!!! Pretty damn impressive. Its the ZombieTools Deuce.

[Dznts]

Originally Posted by BullF-16

Well, since its so tough to add to the firearms collection due to the panic, its time to add to the blade collection. Boomsticks and blades FTW. Last time this happened in 2008 after the election i started a nice BusseCombat collection....also a couple Hawks from RMJ Forge. So, given the current panic....Now this......

Oh well, it should be cool for a while. Come at me trees!!!!

a Youtube vid of them trying to destroy it!!!! Pretty damn impressive. Its the ZombieTools Deuce.

wow that was pretty impressive!

[Mr Twisty]

Originally Posted by Dznts

That's crazy man

It was a real learning experience! And tritium sights are worth their weight in gold in the shadows

Originally Posted by BullF-16

Well, since its so tough to add to the firearms collection due to the panic, its time to add to the blade collection. Boomsticks and blades FTW. Last time this happened in 2008 after the election i started a nice BusseCombat collection....also a couple Hawks from RMJ Forge. So, given the current panic....Now this......

Oh well, it should be cool for a while. Come at me trees!!!!

a Youtube vid of them trying to destroy it!!!! Pretty damn impressive. Its the ZombieTools Deuce.

Nice blades! Miller bro's stuff looks pretty good too.

I used to be a Cold Steel fan, still like the small Bench Made blades, Give me a choice and I'll take the USA made steel

[trewyn15]

Anyone selling any 9mm pistols or know of anyone selling? I'm starting to look for something a little more.