School shooting in CT

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There is a need for stricter gun control laws.

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Originally Posted by rez333

I have a bunch of guns, but a gun is different from a knife. There's an emotional disconnect between pressing a trigger and stabbing someone. There's also a distance factor. I can run away from a guy with a knife easier than I can run away from a guy with a gun. That guy in China that stabbed 22 kids today didn't kill anyone.

If you want to avoid gun shootings in schools, you have to stop crazies and kids getting guns. Period. That doesn't stop you or I from getting guns, so why don't we accept that as a nice compromise that makes most people happy?

point is, the stuff I listed(minus the alcohol)are things PEOPLE use as TOOLS to harm other PEOPLE.
has nothing to do with the tool itself
if a person wants to kill they will do it regardless of what tool is available

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Originally Posted by soloknight6

Here in california, there is a survey you must complete to purchase a firearm. Ive taken this survey. It is a background check that covers alot, from DUI's to mental instability. And with this there is a two week "cool down" period after you purchase the weapon. The cool-down period is there to help stop a person from going to a gunshop so he can shoot his ex, take out his rage, etc. I agree mentally unstable people should not be allowed to own a firearm, but whats to stop a mentally unstable person from stealing one? or buying one off craigslist under the counter? I agree stiffer laws need to be in place in all states, but there are limits to what laws can do.

Obviously if only the purchaser has to do the questionnaire, then he can BS. Buyers should provide several meaningful references who would then be interviewed by a firearms officer over the phone. Mental and criminal histories should also be available to the firearms officer.

In Canada, you need a license to own and buy guns. You can't sell a gun on craigslist to an unlicensed owner. Also in Canada, that idiot's mom would have to have gone through gun safety courses and should have been trained to lock up her guns and ammo.

I don't see what's the issue. You have to be licensed to get a car, why not a gun?

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Originally Posted by rez333

Obviously if only the purchaser has to do the questionnaire, then he can BS. Buyers should provide several meaningful references who would then be interviewed by a firearms officer over the phone. Mental and criminal histories should also be available to the firearms officer.

In Canada, you need a license to own and buy guns. You can't sell a gun on craigslist to an unlicensed owner. Also in Canada, that idiot's mom would have to have gone through gun safety courses and should have been trained to lock up her guns and ammo.

I don't see what's the issue. You have to be licensed to get a car, why not a gun?

No you cant BS the survey. They do a background check with your liscence, SSN, etc. Its already pretty thorough, and you dont get the gun right away. Your survey is reviewed by the state, and you have the cool down period. And with craigslist, people sell guns with code names, ILLEGAL GUNS. Same way prostitutes and drug dealers use craigslist. In California, you pretty much have to be liscensed to get a gun.

[rez333]

Originally Posted by Deki

He's 20, not 2, gun safety or not, it's not impossible for a 20 year old man to get a trigger lock off a firearm. Was she supposed to hide the drill and pliers too?

This situation was unavoidable. Even if there was an armed security guard at the school, or a police officer, this guy would have probably taken him out first.



This guy had access to the school, it appears as though he worked there.

We cannot conclude it was unavoidable. In many cases, an effective deterrant is enough for crazies to just move on to easier targets. Crazies just grab what's in front of them, and in this case it was an easily accessible unlocked gun.

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Originally Posted by CyberPunk223

It's all staged by the government, they are coming hard on for our guns and our 2nd amendment. Dont fall for their tricks,

so what you're saying is Obama gave this guy a gun to go kill his family and schoolkids?

[soloknight6]

Originally Posted by rez333

We cannot conclude it was unavoidable. In many cases, an effective deterrant is enough for crazies to just move on to easier targets. Crazies just grab what's in front of them, and in this case it was an easily accessible unlocked gun.

What we need is stricter punishment for crazies who think about pulling this crap. I like japans way of dealing with convicted murderers. Put them in a cell with a noose, no food or water, no visitors, no lawyers. Just them, the noose, and the chair. Maybe we should stop handing out life sentences with free food and shelter, and offer people like this to science. stop using lab rats, and use murderers. Infect them with horrible cancers and diseases, then study them. I bet we would make some serious medical advancements.

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Originally Posted by rez333

so what you're saying is Obama gave this guy a gun to go kill his family and schoolkids?

I'm not saying that, but some people blamed Bush for 9/11
why not blame Obama for the shootings?

again not agreeing with either, just staying in the middle

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Originally Posted by CyberPunk223

wait until the facts come out, you will see 100 holes in the governments story just like the batman shooter in that theatre where the governemnt got caught lying and covering up mutiple pieces of evidence.

There is an Agenda at foot to destroy the last stand of freedom in america and that is our 2nd amendment, do not be nieve,m they didnt build this massive police state for nothing.

And yet they over turned the ban on conceal and carry here in IL....
Hmm part of the plan eh?

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[Aubrey64]

All of these mass shootings are taking place in "no gun" zones. We need to eliminate no gun zones, because a shooter isn't gonna barge into a location with a gun if he thinks that a ton of other people have guns on them as well. Aside from that something needs to be done about all these shootings and the government needs to evaluate why this keeps happening. Being "crazy" is no longer a viable excuse...there has always been crazy people, but there hasn't always been these horrific events taking place on a regular basis.

This is extremely terrible and I can't even imagine what the parents/family members are goin through. My deepest condolences and my thoughts are with the people effected by this. Truly awful

[STINGER BEE]

I agree with you fully,they go to jail and live better than people striving to make ends meet out on the street.Do what the Japs consider punishment.

Originally Posted by soloknight6

What we need is stricter punishment for crazies who think about pulling this crap. I like japans way of dealing with convicted murderers. Put them in a cell with a noose, no food or water, no visitors, no lawyers. Just them, the noose, and the chair. Maybe we should stop handing out life sentences with free food and shelter, and offer people like this to science. stop using lab rats, and use murderers. Infect them with horrible cancers and diseases, then study them. I bet we would make some serious medical advancements.

[Mutant Racer]

This kind of thing is sickening and it aggravates me. There is no way this guy snapped overnight and this just suddenly happened. It makes me wonder how people like this are walking around and nothing can be done until the unthinkable happens.

This level of madness is off the charts.

Originally Posted by Supercharged SS

This is my town. Lived in it for all 37 yrs of my life. I went to that school. I have friends with children in the school and know the teachers. It's unbelievable.

Supercharged I'm wishing you and yours my very best.

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Originally Posted by CyberPunk223

that's because people are fighting back in court. just wait & see, your only going to see more of this. Obama said in the 2nd debate that he was coming to ban hand guns & Assault Rfiles. Why do you think this always happens in a School? it's because they know that dead children will tug on the emotions of the people and convinvce them to sacifiice their freedom.

I would like to see the video of the potus saying this please.

I remember everyone was afraid he was his first term. They ended up making it legal to carry inside government buuldings instead. It was crazy gun owners buying up ammo and guns that created the shortage. Now they are saying he will really do it this term....

Lol

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[Nitroman28]

Originally Posted by rez333

I have a bunch of guns, but a gun is different from a knife. There's an emotional disconnect between pressing a trigger and stabbing someone. There's also a distance factor. I can run away from a guy with a knife easier than I can run away from a guy with a gun. That guy in China that stabbed 22 kids today didn't kill anyone.

If you want to avoid gun shootings in schools, you have to stop crazies and kids getting guns. Period. That doesn't stop you or I from getting guns, so why don't we accept that as a nice compromise that makes most people happy?

A survey in 2007 showed there are over 270 million guns in the US, How do you suppose they do what you're asking? 90 out of 100 people own a gun.

Schools need to stop spending so much money on Sports and Greyhound buses to haul Football and band around in and focus on security. A locked door and metal detector would have stopped it before it started.