Global Warming Tax

[Roflmao]

Just saw this article on Yahoo a few moments ago. I really think it is retarded to tax gasoline some more for a thing like global warming considering all the information recently coming out for the whole debate...

http://blog.wired.com/cars/2008/04/s...nup=1&mbid=yhp

[GTAHVIT]

So those who can afford to own and drive a car will pay for the public transportation of those who can't. Sounds like liberal California to me. I not only have to pay for myself (Well not really me since I don't live there) but I have to pay for everyone else as well. Oh but wait not everyone has to pay. Only those that can afford private means of transportation have to pay. Hmmmm. Sounds like working class middle America takes one on the chin again. Just brilliant.

[TheClassicCarKid]

This is so ridiculous I can't even talk about it without swearing

[jhitson]

What next...a respiration tax. You breath more than this other guy, so you are putting mor CO2 in the air. We will tax you untill you no longer breath. america is no longer America if you catch what I'm saying. America (the spirit) left a long time ago.

[bouncertime]

Originally Posted by jhitson

What next...a respiration tax. You breath more than this other guy, so you are putting mor CO2 in the air. We will tax you untill you no longer breath. america is no longer America if you catch what I'm saying. America (the spirit) left a long time ago.

Don't give them ideas.

[bouncertime]

I can't wait to finish school, so I can move back out of this screwed up state.

[Silverado]

Oh man, don't even get me started on this one....

[camarocrazy28]

Originally Posted by Silverado

Oh man, don't even get me started on this one....

Figures. The state that gave us CARB, crusher laws, environmental impact fees. Now they're buying into a theory that can never be proven. And worse yet they're trying to charge a tax to help stop the global warming that will end the world as we know it by the 22nd century. And to make matters worse cars and light trucks only account for 20 percent of greenhouse gasses. I could go on and on.

[rmyers]

Anytime liberals are in control you can bet there will be more taxes. Does everyone realize that Federal, State, and Local governments make more money per gallon of gasoline then the oil companies? And they don't have to do anything to get it. Hey certain states refuse to drill off of their own coasts, they have every right..in fact maybe a duty to pay 6.00 per gallon. At the same time the blow hards in DC call big oil to testify in congress and have the nerve to suggest the oil companies allocate 10% of their profits to exploring alternative energy. Here is a proposal for the politicians. Why don't they commit 10% of their day actually doing the work of the people instead of interrogatign baseball players and oil company executives.

But enough about politics. No matter which side of the isle you stand on...we all have one thing in common...We can't wait for our legendary musclecar to return to glory!

Ron Myers

[09'Z28]

Originally Posted by jhitson

What next...a respiration tax. You breath more than this other guy, so you are putting mor CO2 in the air. We will tax you untill you no longer breath. america is no longer America if you catch what I'm saying. America (the spirit) left a long time ago.

exactly thats why we became our own country was England's taxes

[DGthe3]

Wow, you really hate taxes that much eh? Look at it this way: the people that are causing the problem are providing the solution. Thats the principle behind this. Now, calling it a global warming tax or whatever they decided to call it . . . thats a bit much. But I completely agree with using gasoline taxes to fund mass transit. Because for every person that rides a bus is one less person causing trafic congestion. And traffic is a massive problem in places like LA. The more funding that mass transit gets the more its service can expand and the more effective it can be. If subsidising were pulled you would see a massive rise in the number of cars on the street. And that would cause much longer traffic delays and cause you to waste gas, costing you money anyway.

and an extra $0.09/gal is nothing. We pay around $4/gal in southern ontario and thats about as cheap as you will find in Canada, and its about $0.60 more than typical american prices. All that differance comes from taxes. In europe its much worse. The euros spend the extra money on mass transit and it has worked out great.

I have to get some of this off my chest:

I cannot get over how self centered Americans tend to be. Its all about the rights of the individual. Opposing mass transit funding and opposing health care because it will take your money and give it to someone else. What of the rights of the less fortunate? I am a student, I can't afford the time to have a job and I don't have the money for a car. Without public transit, living would be pretty difficult. Without tax payers helping out, mass transit would be either non existant here or extremely limited and fairly expensive. And so I would be forced to accept that because I am not in a situation where I can use a car. Could I manage? yes. But it would cost me an extra $10 to get groceries each week, just as one example. I would have to pay $50 to go home and see my family who live 2 hours away. to people with jobs, thats an annoyance. to someone who has an annual income of -$10 000 its a bit more important.

I'm sorry for the rant, I'm just one for the little guy. I don't want to hyjack this thread with an off topic debate. So please keep replys to the issue at hand.

[stovt001]

You'd think it would be comforting knowing Al Gore will be paying more of this tax than anyone else considering how huge his "carbon footprint" is, but then you realize that the cost to him will be a minute fraction of the millions he is making off this scam.

[Kyle2k]

Originally Posted by rmyers

Anytime liberals are in control you can bet there will be more taxes. Does everyone realize that Federal, State, and Local governments make more money per gallon of gasoline then the oil companies? And they don't have to do anything to get it. Hey certain states refuse to drill off of their own coasts, they have every right..in fact maybe a duty to pay 6.00 per gallon. At the same time the blow hards in DC call big oil to testify in congress and have the nerve to suggest the oil companies allocate 10% of their profits to exploring alternative energy. Here is a proposal for the politicians. Why don't they commit 10% of their day actually doing the work of the people instead of interrogatign baseball players and oil company executives.

But enough about politics. No matter which side of the isle you stand on...we all have one thing in common...We can't wait for our legendary musclecar to return to glory!

Ron Myers

Please for the love of god don't throw the word liberal around. I will go flat out and say I am liberal, but this is just ridiculous. This isn't liberal, this isn't socialist, its like....extremist environmentalist insanity. Since when did California get all this power to pass crap like this too?

[Silverado]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

I cannot get over how self centered Americans tend to be. Its all about the rights of the individual. Opposing mass transit funding and opposing health care because it will take your money and give it to someone else. What of the rights of the less fortunate? I am a student, I can't afford the time to have a job and I don't have the money for a car. Without public transit, living would be pretty difficult. Without tax payers helping out, mass transit would be either non existant here or extremely limited and fairly expensive. And so I would be forced to accept that because I am not in a situation where I can use a car. Could I manage? yes. But it would cost me an extra $10 to get groceries each week, just as one example. I would have to pay $50 to go home and see my family who live 2 hours away. to people with jobs, thats an annoyance. to someone who has an annual income of -$10 000 its a bit more important.

I'm sorry for the rant, I'm just one for the little guy. I don't want to hyjack this thread with an off topic debate. So please keep replys to the issue at hand.

First, don't apologize for the opinion...you are entitled to it.

But, let me throw this out to you...

How self centered am I actually being when I don't want to see my tax dollars (the amount of which I have no control over) going to fund something that I cannot even use. And, I mean cannot use. I don't want to use it, but it doesn't matter because I can't. There is no mass transit where I live. Yes, there is mass transit in Omaha, but not in the part of town I live in. Not the part of town I work in, where I shop, where my family lives, where my friends are, anything that I do....it doesn't exist here. So why should I have to pay for it?

You ask "What of the rights of the less fortunate?" Yeah, what of it? What rights? Mass transportation is not a right. It is a privilege. Don't talk to me about "entitled privileges" for the less fortunate. I've been busting my ass for the last 20 years so that I could afford some of those privileges. Those with less means should have less. Period.

I'm not opposed to helping people, but in general, yeah, I'm totally against the taking of my money so it can be given to someone else. If I have to bust my ass all these years to hand my money to someone else, I want to choose who that someone else is, how often I give them something and how much. If that makes me self centered...fine, then I am the most self centered son of bitch on the planet.

The government is only supposed to pay for a couple things (based on a little thing known as the Constitution). Things like the defense of this country. Not making sure every single person has a subsidized bus/train ride every day.