Lets make fun of ricers.

[CamaroSpike23]

Originally Posted by theholycow

My definition requires more than something being purely for aesthetics; it has to be an attempt to look like something that's functional without actually being functional. It requires false pretenses. Usually this means trying to look like a purpose-built race car when it's mechanically stock, but other false pretenses can count too.


Wheels: Can't be rice, they're functional. I'd hate to have non-functional wheels on my car! Having wheels on a car does not make it look like it's trying to look like a race car, it just makes it look like it can roll (a very important function in cars, IMO).
wheels can be rice. perfect example, a good friend of mine has a cobalt LS with 16" wheels. he tried out a set of 18" "blingin" rims and lost time at the 1/4 and added braking distance. couldnt even spin the tires, so he switched back after 3 days of having them (thankfully)


Granted, there are some really tacky wheels that most people would consider rice, and they are an exception to the usual rice requirements.


Hood: Totally functional. Keeps rain and debris out of the engine bay, prevents people from stealing your battery, etc. Having a hood does not differentiate a race car (or ricer) from a family sedan.
hoods can be rice. see below for example....lol

Spoilers: Small OEM ones tend not to look like anything that is putting on a pretense of making the car look faster. They are non-functional but not really ricey.
Big useless wing on the rear of a FWD car: Non-functional, made specifically to look like something from a race car. Rice.
spoilers arent totally non-functional. most dont provide enough downforce to be significant, but they do function.


Paint schemes: Depends on the particular scheme. If it's painted to look like a race car but does not participate in races, that is rice.

what if its painted to look good? define race car paint job. lol

Halo headlights: Have nothing to do with race cars. Also, the halos on the Camaro function perfectly well.

the halos function. but their function is to look cool.







rice hood:

this hood still protects from rain and all that (cus the "scoop" isnt cut open...yet), but its still rice



rice spoiler? yes? no?

[theholycow]

Regarding the hood, it's the scoop (and pins and such) that is rice on the Neon. The hood is just a hood without that scoop (and without the pins and such).

I've never liked that style of 3rd gen spoiler. Back when they were new, the ricer issue didn't exist (the closest term at the time, "rice burner", merely described the place where the car was manufactured).

I agree about your wheel example. That fits the exception I mentioned for tacky wheels, as well as the fundamental concept of functionality or lack thereof -- in this case, actually reducing functionality. I'd hate driving something like that, as I said about nonfunctional wheels.

The upsizing of wheels is itself rooted in performance modifications, but style has long since overrun any handling gains available from such a strategy.

I also agree that spoilers are non-functional, which is why I said that they're non-functional. The ones that don't attempt to resemble anything used for racing and are understated tend not to seem ricey to most people, myself included.

[CamaroSpike23]

Originally Posted by theholycow

Regarding the hood, it's the scoop (and pins and such) that is rice on the Neon. The hood is just a hood without that scoop (and without the pins and such).

the pins are a bit much. but that hood comes with the scoop. just like my hood came with a scoop. well, actually, it came with a cowl, but its been converted to a scoop.





are these scoops rice?



what about this scoop?



the hood on the 2010 camaro has a cowl to it. however, the intake draws its air from behind the headlight. so the new camaro's hood cowl is rice as well right?

[theholycow]

Originally Posted by CamaroSpike23

the pins are a bit much. but that hood comes with the scoop.

Factory rice, like the mail slot and gills on the Camaro that I love.

just like my hood came with a scoop. well, actually, it came with a cowl, but its been converted to a scoop.

Did you convert it to a functional scoop?

are these scoops rice?

[IMG]http://www.northtxcamaros.com/Events/images/02DynoChallenge/dcp01062.jpg[IMG]

what about this scoop?
[IMG]http://www.hawksthirdgenparts.com/ProductImages/hoodcomponents/zrochood.jpg[IMG]

Are they functional?

the hood on the 2010 camaro has a cowl to it. however, the intake draws its air from behind the headlight. so the new camaro's hood cowl is rice as well right?

If it's drawing air through that thing, then it's functional.

You can throw as many Camaro examples at me as you want; I will not hesitate to tell it as it is. I love the Camaro, and my love includes accepting its failures and such. I'd be a hypocrite if I didn't accept when something was rice just because it is found on my favorite car.

[CamaroSpike23]

Originally Posted by theholycow

Factory rice, like the mail slot and gills on the Camaro that I love.

that hood isnt stock. but it does come with the scoop

Did you convert it to a functional scoop?

technically not yet. im still working out the s/c details. lol

Are they functional?
nope, sure aren't. the second one is the hood I have.


If it's drawing air through that thing, then it's functional.
yes and know. the purpose of a cowl is to draw air to the intake... which on older cars was right on top of the motor. but now it is off to the front/side.

You can throw as many Camaro examples at me as you want; I will not hesitate to tell it as it is. I love the Camaro, and my love includes accepting its failures and such. I'd be a hypocrite if I didn't accept when something was rice just because it is found on my favorite car.

rice to me, is when it is over the top. just like people who build trailer queens. I saw a 69 camaro with a blown motor pushing 700hp at a recent car show. the whole car was a tube chassis car with a narrowed rear and slicks, full built suspension and trans. full custom paint job, along with chrome accents all over the motor. I asked the guy what his 1/4 time was... he told me he never raced it.

do I consider that rice? no. just a waste of money.

[theholycow]

Originally Posted by CamaroSpike23

do I consider that rice? no. just a waste of money.

Agreed. It's (approximately) functional, just unused.

For me, it doesn't have to be over the top to be rice. If it's rice but not over the top, then it's just minor rice.

[MTron]

Originally Posted by theholycow

Are they functional? If they're not functional, I don't care that they're original equipment from a first gen or whatever...non-functional vents are rice, plain and simple.

When something ricey is OEM, that mitigates its ricerity but does not completely make it non-rice. The gills on the new Camaro are rice that I'd easily accept as part of a great car.

so then the mail slot and the shark gills make the camaro riced out?

[CamaroSpike23]

Originally Posted by MTron

so then the mail slot and the shark gills make the camaro riced out?

to him it does. I'm not bashing his opinion either, just trying to open his mind a little.

[Jamie Mac]

Milk will you just ban both of you from this thread. I've always enjoyed it until this. Swap phone numbers or e-mails and get back to us when you two have reached a verdict on what constitutes a ricer. Thanks

[Metal Gear SS]

Originally Posted by Jamie Mac

Milk will you just ban both of you from this thread. I've always enjoyed it until this. Swap phone numbers or e-mails and get back to us when you two have reached a verdict on what constitutes a ricer. Thanks

It's actually pretty entertaining (and informative) to watch

Interesting to see different perspectives on what "rice" means to different people.

[CamaroSpike23]

Originally Posted by Jamie Mac

Milk will you just ban both of you from this thread. I've always enjoyed it until this. Swap phone numbers or e-mails and get back to us when you two have reached a verdict on what constitutes a ricer. Thanks

I seriously doubt that.

Originally Posted by Metal Gear SS

It's actually pretty entertaining (and informative) to watch

Interesting to see different perspectives on what "rice" means to different people.

[theholycow]

It seems we've pretty well completed the discussion. I have nothing more to add based on anything Spike has posted, and it looks like Spike has thoroughly explained his criteria/opinions too.

Originally Posted by MTron

so then the mail slot and the shark gills make the camaro riced out?

I've repeatedly stated that I find those items to be pure rice, and that I dislike them...and also that I love the Camaro anyway.

Whether they qualify the whole car as "riced out", I'm not so sure...when I say "riced out" I usually mean a car that is more extreme -- either having rice elements that are more extreme, or having a larger quantity of ricey elements.

The gills and mail slot are somewhat understated and less obtrusive than common rice. The gills aren't actually cut into slots, nor are they painted a different color or stuck on with adhesive. The mail slot is small and doesn't have anything other than its slottiness to draw attention.

[Scrapppy666]

If I can throw it out there without being flamed.... Mail Slot + Gills are factory.... Rice to me is aftermarket non-functional dress-up

[CamaroSpike23]

Originally Posted by theholycow

its slottiness to draw attention.