What to do when money comes between friends? - Page 6

Bonnie · 10-03-2012, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Dallas

Her stuff, in bags, in the driveway when she gets home. No rent, no place to stay.

Quackersacker · 10-04-2012, 07:35 AM

Belle keep us updated as to what happens.

Mr.Jgunn65 · 10-04-2012, 08:28 AM

She is not a friend, she's a bum. You laid out the ground rule in advance and she still took advantage of you and your kindness. You have a moral obligation to kick that sorry B@#ch out of your house and try to recover from your financial situation.
Good Luck.

BowtieBelle · 10-04-2012, 09:48 AM

I told her money by Friday or she needs to look for an apartment in town.

She's never cleaned the house or helped me in the whole time she's been there, but she's cleaning now! And says she'll "try to have me something by Friday."

We'll see.

RubyCamaro · 10-04-2012, 10:05 AM

Stick to your guns.

NateSS · 10-04-2012, 10:22 AM

be firm and be strong. A true friend would have at least been honest and explained to you why she has been slow in getting you money.

Stick with an ultimatum, is my advice.

Jason@JacFab · 10-04-2012, 10:39 AM

Ugh... I didn't even realize it was time to almost time to pay property taxes again

I had a similar problem except I was renting my whole house to a friend and his girlfriend (expecting baby) when I moved to Alaska for a while... My mortgage isn't much compared to others, it's an old house, little small by some people's standards... The deal was they were to pay $675 a month, electric and gas bill, and I would pay for sewer, trash (because I wanted to be sure trash was thrown away, and not stacked up somewhere), and internet (because I still had a 2 year contract, and didn't want to pay the cancellation fee)... I wasn't trying to make money off of them, I just wanted enough to pay the mortgage while I was gone.

First two months went ok, third month the check bounced... At that point they had literally just had their baby, so I figured times were tough, and they probably had to buy a bunch of last minute stuff they didn't think of. We have a nice chat, told him I undsterand you just had a baby, but if you can't pay it tell me don't just give me a bad check. He gets me the money and the NSF fee I was charged for the bounced check the next week.

Things went fine again for another 3-4 months, I flew down to visit family and hang out for a while. I went by the house while I was down there to collect rent, and the "mother in law" is there and there is a giant stack of $#!7 next to the house... Concerned about the state of the yard, I asked if they were getting ready for a yard sale or something? The lady says, "Something like that"... Hmmm... ok. Couple months go by yard is still an absolute mess and it's starting to rain, I ask dude if they need a bigger trash can, and reiterate the reason I pay for trash is so shit doesn't end up in the yard and ask him to clean it up.

Well little did I know was that stack of crap was from the mother's house, and that her, her 3 kids were moving in, and with 3 dogs no less (No pets allowed)... Went to get rent again, ask dude about the vicious dog in the yard. He says it's the mom's dog, and they have to keep it for a while... Ok dude, get it out of here ASAP, I don't want to be responsible for it attacking someone, DO NOT let it in the house.

I head back to alaska, 3 dogs are still there, and there are 7 people (4 of which I didn't know about) are living in the 1100 sq ft house... Couple months after I got back to AK, there was no attempt to make the rent payment, let it slide for a while seeing if dude is gonna call, or what... He calls a month later, "Hey I got rent,"... To which I reply, "Ok, what about last months rent?" He doesn't know what I'm talking about and insists he paid it... "Well I didn't get it"... We go round and round for a while... rent starts getting paid again...

At this point, I'm packing my crap up in AK to move back to OR... Get back and dude brings me rent at the shop. I ask how many people are living there, and why the dogs are still there.. Turns out the mom, 3 kids, and 3 dogs are temporarily living there, should be gone by the end of the month... OK, DO NOT let the dogs in the house.

At this point, I'm living in my Dad's guest house paying him $500/mo... I could be living in my house for a few hundred more. Couple months go by, still a full house, get another rent check with NSF... It's about last Thanksgiving, I finally pull the plug, but being the holiday season I didn't want them to have to worry about moving during Christmas, so I tell them they need to be out by the end of Jan.

No problems with the rent until they leave... Finaly get the house back it's a mess, all the carpets had to be replaced because they obviously let al the dogs in the house... So I start project JacFab Extreme Home Make over, it took me a month of replacing carpets, painting rooms, refinishing floors, and cleaning their junk out before I could even move back in... The deposit they gave me was barely enough to cover the materials to replace the carpet.

There's more to the story, but I think you get the idea... I never did get the missing months rent out of them, and it cost me about a grand to get the house livable again... Maybe I should have been harder on them, but you can't squeeze blood from a turnip. I will NEVER rent to a friend again.

*EDIT* I realize that basically doesn't answer your question of what you should do... I still consider my previous tenent a "friend", but we don't hang out or talk anymore. I have never asked for money for the missing rent, or compensation for the damages, no do I plan to... If your friend doesn't get her act together, I would simply ask her to leave as it's not working for you.

2001ragtop · 10-05-2012, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BowtieBelle

I told her money by Friday or she needs to look for an apartment in town.

She's never cleaned the house or helped me in the whole time she's been there, but she's cleaning now! And says she'll "try to have me something by Friday."

We'll see.

I hope this situation works out for you. It sounds like you need her to help you out with finances. Just be stern.

2001ragtop · 10-08-2012, 01:38 PM

HEY WHAT HAPPENED Last Friday?

Did you guys work it out?

This was an interesting drama type of story so can you reveal what the outcome was??? :-)

BowtieBelle · 10-09-2012, 11:06 AM

She hasn't gotten me any money or even mentioned it. Her mom flew down to see her and they've been going out on the town and doing whatever. Her mom bought her a bunch of stuff.

Her mom cleaned the kitchen and they got me a box of fruit rollups

bossbunny · 10-09-2012, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by BowtieBelle

She hasn't gotten me any money or even mentioned it. Her mom flew down to see her and they've been going out on the town and doing whatever. Her mom bought her a bunch of stuff.

Her mom cleaned the kitchen and they got me a box of fruit rollups

Hi friend and mom of friend, your shit is on the lawn! Have a good night! *slam door in face*

Do it.

Sir Nuke · 10-09-2012, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by bossbunny

Hi friend and mom of friend, your shit is on the lawn! Have a good night! *slam door in face*

Do it.

FRIDAY CAME AND WENT.....There was a DEAD LINE.....and YOU crossed it!

Wabbit · 10-09-2012, 02:10 PM

Hey Ma, just in time. I'm about to toss your freeloading daughter out to the curb. Wanna help?

DarkneSS · 10-09-2012, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BowtieBelle

She hasn't gotten me any money or even mentioned it. Her mom flew down to see her and they've been going out on the town and doing whatever. Her mom bought her a bunch of stuff.

Her mom cleaned the kitchen and they got me a box of fruit rollups

At this point any more negative consequences you encounter as a result of this situation are on YOU! Sorry to be harsh but you are letting her walk all over you.

She needs to go, you've been disrespected beyond redemption. Chalk the money up as a loss at this point and tell her she needs to find somewhere else to live. Give her 3 days maximum and that at the end of the three days you will call the cops.

Take this as a lesson, avoid business relationships of ANY kind with ANYONE except immediate family or a spouse/fiancee. Never lend out money, never let people borrow anything, and don't live with people without signing a contract stating rent obligations.

Sure all of these situations can go well, but when they go bad, they go REAL bad. Look at what happened here. You tried to be nice and now you have to effing kick someone out of your home.

There is virtually never a good back ground story as to why someone is asking you for money/a place to stay. 9/10 they messed up and now they are looking to you to cover for their mistakes.

This girl doesn't have her shit together and passed that onto you, and now you lose.

Again, get her out and take it as a lesson.

10-04-2012, 07:35 AM	#72
Quackersacker Drives: 2011 Camaro Convertible SS Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Iowa Posts: 608 View My Garage	Belle keep us updated as to what happens. __________________

10-04-2012, 09:48 AM	#74
BowtieBelle They see me trollin'... Drives: 217 ci of fury; Chauffeured by SS Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 13,875 View My Garage	I told her money by Friday or she needs to look for an apartment in town. She's never cleaned the house or helped me in the whole time she's been there, but she's cleaning now! And says she'll "try to have me something by Friday." We'll see. __________________ "Never race anything you can't afford to light on fire and push off a cliff." -CamaroSpike 2011 Custom LT/RS: Bella's Build Thread

10-04-2012, 10:05 AM	#75
RubyCamaro Jan Drives: 2010 Camaro 1LT Red Jewel tintcoat Join Date: May 2010 Location: Springfield, TN Posts: 16,240 View My Garage	Stick to your guns. __________________

10-04-2012, 10:22 AM	#76
NateSS 1337 AH64D driver Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS L99 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 254	be firm and be strong. A true friend would have at least been honest and explained to you why she has been slow in getting you money. Stick with an ultimatum, is my advice. __________________ Cam/Heads by ARD, Tune by G-Force, Transmission/Gears by Circle D

10-04-2012, 10:39 AM	#77
Jason@JacFab Drives: 2016 1LT RS Camaro; 72 Chevelle Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Central Point, OR Posts: 5,685 View My Garage	Ugh... I didn't even realize it was time to almost time to pay property taxes again I had a similar problem except I was renting my whole house to a friend and his girlfriend (expecting baby) when I moved to Alaska for a while... My mortgage isn't much compared to others, it's an old house, little small by some people's standards... The deal was they were to pay $675 a month, electric and gas bill, and I would pay for sewer, trash (because I wanted to be sure trash was thrown away, and not stacked up somewhere), and internet (because I still had a 2 year contract, and didn't want to pay the cancellation fee)... I wasn't trying to make money off of them, I just wanted enough to pay the mortgage while I was gone. First two months went ok, third month the check bounced... At that point they had literally just had their baby, so I figured times were tough, and they probably had to buy a bunch of last minute stuff they didn't think of. We have a nice chat, told him I undsterand you just had a baby, but if you can't pay it tell me don't just give me a bad check. He gets me the money and the NSF fee I was charged for the bounced check the next week. Things went fine again for another 3-4 months, I flew down to visit family and hang out for a while. I went by the house while I was down there to collect rent, and the "mother in law" is there and there is a giant stack of $#!7 next to the house... Concerned about the state of the yard, I asked if they were getting ready for a yard sale or something? The lady says, "Something like that"... Hmmm... ok. Couple months go by yard is still an absolute mess and it's starting to rain, I ask dude if they need a bigger trash can, and reiterate the reason I pay for trash is so shit doesn't end up in the yard and ask him to clean it up. Well little did I know was that stack of crap was from the mother's house, and that her, her 3 kids were moving in, and with 3 dogs no less (No pets allowed)... Went to get rent again, ask dude about the vicious dog in the yard. He says it's the mom's dog, and they have to keep it for a while... Ok dude, get it out of here ASAP, I don't want to be responsible for it attacking someone, DO NOT let it in the house. I head back to alaska, 3 dogs are still there, and there are 7 people (4 of which I didn't know about) are living in the 1100 sq ft house... Couple months after I got back to AK, there was no attempt to make the rent payment, let it slide for a while seeing if dude is gonna call, or what... He calls a month later, "Hey I got rent,"... To which I reply, "Ok, what about last months rent?" He doesn't know what I'm talking about and insists he paid it... "Well I didn't get it"... We go round and round for a while... rent starts getting paid again... At this point, I'm packing my crap up in AK to move back to OR... Get back and dude brings me rent at the shop. I ask how many people are living there, and why the dogs are still there.. Turns out the mom, 3 kids, and 3 dogs are temporarily living there, should be gone by the end of the month... OK, DO NOT let the dogs in the house. At this point, I'm living in my Dad's guest house paying him $500/mo... I could be living in my house for a few hundred more. Couple months go by, still a full house, get another rent check with NSF... It's about last Thanksgiving, I finally pull the plug, but being the holiday season I didn't want them to have to worry about moving during Christmas, so I tell them they need to be out by the end of Jan. No problems with the rent until they leave... Finaly get the house back it's a mess, all the carpets had to be replaced because they obviously let al the dogs in the house... So I start project JacFab Extreme Home Make over, it took me a month of replacing carpets, painting rooms, refinishing floors, and cleaning their junk out before I could even move back in... The deposit they gave me was barely enough to cover the materials to replace the carpet. There's more to the story, but I think you get the idea... I never did get the missing months rent out of them, and it cost me about a grand to get the house livable again... Maybe I should have been harder on them, but you can't squeeze blood from a turnip. I will NEVER rent to a friend again. EDIT I realize that basically doesn't answer your question of what you should do... I still consider my previous tenent a "friend", but we don't hang out or talk anymore. I have never asked for money for the missing rent, or compensation for the damages, no do I plan to... If your friend doesn't get her act together, I would simply ask her to leave as it's not working for you. Last edited by Jason@JacFab; 10-04-2012 at 11:40 AM.

10-04-2012, 08:28 AM	#73
Mr.Jgunn65 Drives: 2011 Camaro 2/SS Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Augusta Posts: 344 View My Garage	She is not a friend, she's a bum. You laid out the ground rule in advance and she still took advantage of you and your kindness. You have a moral obligation to kick that sorry B@#ch out of your house and try to recover from your financial situation. Good Luck.

10-08-2012, 01:38 PM	#79
2001ragtop Drives: V8 american car Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Dallas, Tx Posts: 1,417	HEY WHAT HAPPENED Last Friday? Did you guys work it out? This was an interesting drama type of story so can you reveal what the outcome was??? :-)

10-09-2012, 11:06 AM	#80
BowtieBelle They see me trollin'... Drives: 217 ci of fury; Chauffeured by SS Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 13,875 View My Garage	She hasn't gotten me any money or even mentioned it. Her mom flew down to see her and they've been going out on the town and doing whatever. Her mom bought her a bunch of stuff. Her mom cleaned the kitchen and they got me a box of fruit rollups __________________ "Never race anything you can't afford to light on fire and push off a cliff." -CamaroSpike 2011 Custom LT/RS: Bella's Build Thread

10-09-2012, 02:10 PM	#83
Wabbit Drives: 2013 2LT/RS SIM/Grey lnt/Sun/Nav Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: In my car as much as I can Posts: 783 View My Garage	Hey Ma, just in time. I'm about to toss your freeloading daughter out to the curb. Wanna help? __________________ Rally Stripes - Check Hockey Stripes - Check Gills - Check Ambient Lighting - Saving my $$$ now