2014 Impala; blah

[Cincy10SSRS]

Originally Posted by ss/rs-matt

Anyone remember the abortion they called an SS Impala with front drive??

Even when I owned one (from 2005-2010) I wished my 2005 Impala SS had been RWD but even though it was FWD and only a 6-cyl, it came from the factory with a supercharger and with some bolt ons (exhaust, intercooler, smaller pulley, 1.9 rockers, tune, etc) it put out 300+ hp and ran 13.5 in the 1/4. Beat some 95-96 LT1 Imp SS's at the track (but then again got beat by a couple with major bolt-ons also). I liked the car at the time but like my 2010 Camaro SS WAAAAAY better.

[fastball]

Originally Posted by camaro-dreamer

In the past, Impalas were available with a v8. In fact, the 2014 marks the beginning of the 10th generation of Impala. In these previous 9 generations, only gen 8 was not available with a v8 at some point during production.

The looks of this car are not bad. I think this car must weigh quite a bit though. With over 300 hp, the car can only muster a 6.8 s 0-60 time.

In the past you needed a V8 to get any kind of performance what so ever. Now, you really don't need a V8 unless you're talking about a Camaro, Corvette, or the new Chevy SS which will be their hot family sedan.

The LLT is a great, world class engine. It's GM's best V6 ever. Better than the 3800. And it is more than adequate for a top of the line Impala.

Notice how the Malibu doesn't even offer a V6 now. It will have only the 2.5 L4 and the 2.0T. Actually, the days are numbered where you even really need a V6 for good performance. Depending on how sophisticated GM wants to get with their technology, as a reference Honda was making 200hp in their 2.2 L4 in 1999 without a turbo while most V6 engines were at 200 hp. So 13 years later the technology and capability is no doubt there to make small engines powerful, reliable, and efficient.

I know all the old timers are "used" to seeing a V8 under the hood of a top of the line Chevy Impala, but it's just not practical or necessary today. You want a really hot 4 door Chevy wait for the Chevy SS. But the LLT equipped Impala will be faster than any previous V8 equipped Impala.

[SS 376]

I think it looks sharp. The only thing I'd change is the steering wheel. It's just too frumpy--a three-bar wheel like what's on the current Camaro would've been more presentable. Tough to choose between this and the Taurus, but either one is better than anything in the segment from Honda, Nissan or Toyota.

[camaro-dreamer]

Originally Posted by fastball

In the past you needed a V8 to get any kind of performance what so ever. Now, you really don't need a V8 unless you're talking about a Camaro, Corvette, or the new Chevy SS which will be their hot family sedan.

The LLT is a great, world class engine. It's GM's best V6 ever. Better than the 3800. And it is more than adequate for a top of the line Impala.

Notice how the Malibu doesn't even offer a V6 now. It will have only the 2.5 L4 and the 2.0T. Actually, the days are numbered where you even really need a V6 for good performance. Depending on how sophisticated GM wants to get with their technology, as a reference Honda was making 200hp in their 2.2 L4 in 1999 without a turbo while most V6 engines were at 200 hp. So 13 years later the technology and capability is no doubt there to make small engines powerful, reliable, and efficient.

I know all the old timers are "used" to seeing a V8 under the hood of a top of the line Chevy Impala, but it's just not practical or necessary today. You want a really hot 4 door Chevy wait for the Chevy SS. But the LLT equipped Impala will be faster than any previous V8 equipped Impala.

I really care nothing for this argument. I was simply providing perspective. In addition, it is quite clear that GM does not really care about performance for this Impala in any of the given engine options. Altimas and Maximas will beat this thing by over a second to 60 and the SHO beats it by over 1.5 seconds. I shudder to think of the lack of performance for the two four cylinder options when the v6 will be so slow. The real trick will be to find buyers who both are willing to pay extra for all of the creature comforts that this car provides and are willing to sacrifice performance. I realize that pricing has not been announced, but this thing better be priced competitively. Otherwise, GM will not be selling so many.

Also, to clear up a few factual errors with your post. The 2014 v6 Impala is slower than the SS models from the early 2000s. In addition, I hope me being in my mid 20s doesn't make me a so-called "old timer".

[Angrybird 12]

Originally Posted by camaro-dreamer

I really care nothing for this argument. I was simply providing perspective. In addition, it is quite clear that GM does not really care about performance for this Impala in any of the given engine options. Altimas and Maximas will beat this thing by over a second to 60 and the SHO beats it by over 1.5 seconds. I shudder to think of the lack of performance for the two four cylinder options when the v6 will be so slow. The real trick will be to find buyers who both are willing to pay extra for all of the creature comforts that this car provides and are willing to sacrifice performance. I realize that pricing has not been announced, but this thing better be priced competitively. Otherwise, GM will not be selling so many.

Also, to clear up a few factual errors with your post. The 2014 v6 Impala is slower than the SS models from the early 2000s. In addition, I hope me being in my mid 20s doesn't make me a so-called "old timer".

Just to put it into perspective the last Impala SS with a V8 had 303HP and did 0-60 in 6.4 seconds. Yeah it's faster by 0.4 of a second. Did you know the 67 Impala SS 427 was only rated at 385 gross HP and was clocked at 8.3 seconds 0-60. Probably what the 4 cylinder 2014 Impala will do. And got 10 mpg of premimum gas.

[Number 3]

Originally Posted by Angrybird 12

Just to put it into perspective the last Impala SS with a V8 had 303HP and did 0-60 in 6.4 seconds. Yeah it's faster by 0.4 of a second. Did you know the 67 Impala SS 427 was only rated at 385 gross HP and was clocked at 8.3 seconds 0-60. Probably what the 4 cylinder 2014 Impala will do. And got 10 mpg of premimum gas.

Yes, but in the hindsight of nostalgic history, it was MUCH faster.

[fastball]

Originally Posted by camaro-dreamer

I really care nothing for this argument. I was simply providing perspective. In addition, it is quite clear that GM does not really care about performance for this Impala in any of the given engine options. Altimas and Maximas will beat this thing by over a second to 60 and the SHO beats it by over 1.5 seconds. I shudder to think of the lack of performance for the two four cylinder options when the v6 will be so slow. The real trick will be to find buyers who both are willing to pay extra for all of the creature comforts that this car provides and are willing to sacrifice performance. I realize that pricing has not been announced, but this thing better be priced competitively. Otherwise, GM will not be selling so many.

Also, to clear up a few factual errors with your post. The 2014 v6 Impala is slower than the SS models from the early 2000s. In addition, I hope me being in my mid 20s doesn't make me a so-called "old timer".

The SHO is a 360 hp twin turbo V6..... I should hope it beats the Impala by over a second. Compare the Impala to a Taurus SEL or Limited fwd with the 3.5 non turbo for apples to apples.

GM does not have a turbo V6 in production, maybe in the future they will. But if they turbo'd the LLT I am quite sure it would run with or beat the SHO.

The Altima's GM competitor is the Malibu. It's a mid-size. It is smaller and weighs less than the Impala. The Maxima would be a more suitable reference, and it does 0-60 in 6.1 seconds so it's not going to beat the Impala by over a second.

[Kahdir]

Originally Posted by GearheadSS

You're the Stevie Wonder of Camaro5 if you think that the Impala is uglier than an Aztek. You've proven that some people only have taste in their mouths.

Originally Posted by meissen

GearheadSS - couldn't have said it better than myself.

LOL!

The crossover SUV market has never really excited me. As far as I'm concerned, anything less than a Jeep (Compass & Patriot excluded) should not be considered a SUV, rather tall wagons or sport vans. That's why I give the Aztek a pass, because I see that whole market as ugly cars.

The Aztek, while hideous, still managed to fit within the looks of other Pontiacs... To me, this Impala comes across as a bad mix of previous generation lines that don't fair well with a modern spin. Aside from the badges, I don't see as strong of a tie-in, with the rest of the lineup. I feel that the Impala would be better off looking like a larger Malibu.

[Brokinarrow]

Originally Posted by vroomapunk

I actually think it looks good for what it is, stolen design techniques or not, it looks better than the taurus.

It has THE worst looking steering wheel I have ever seen

I don't get it when people complain about steering wheels.... I mean, ok:

Is it round? check

Does it have a horn button? check

Oh it also has buttons for volume and radio control? sweet!

Wtf else do you want? Does it need to be bedazzled or something???

sorry, don't mind me, drunk and ranting

[DeAdMiKe187]

Originally Posted by Brokinarrow

I don't get it when people complain about steering wheels.... I mean, ok:

Is it round? check

Does it have a horn button? check

Oh it also has buttons for volume and radio control? sweet!

Wtf else do you want? Does it need to be bedazzled or something???

sorry, don't mind me, drunk and ranting

It just looks... weird. I guess I really like my 2012 Camaro steering wheel. It's just the right size, comfortable, and the buttons are in great locations.

[King T]

I like the new Impala! Looks good to me!


My girlfriend has a 2007 Impala, and we both agree this is a huge upgrade!

[King T]

I even think the ECO version looks good too!

[Angrybird 12]

Hey King, why does it have black rockers and rear bumper cover? I hope it is not going to be sold that way.....

[AZCamaroFan]

probably because it's one they're testing. they aren't selling it that way.