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Old 06-14-2012, 12:31 PM   #29
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Thank you to everyone in this thread who actually took the time to educate themselves instead of simply believing what a stupid Youtube video some dumb moron made.
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Old 06-14-2012, 01:16 PM   #30
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Justice Pete - once again, your post sets the record straight - God Bless ya!


GM’s global policy is to “build where we sell.” The benefit of this practice lowers the cost of the vehicle for the consumer. GM does business in more than 120 countries. Roughly 70 percent of GM sales are generated outside of the U.S. In most cases, those vehicles are not exported from the U.S.

•There are no vehicles imported from China to the U.S. Every Chevrolet sold in the U.S., with the exception of the Spark, is built in North America. However, there are some vehicles (the Chevy Volt, Buick Enclave and Cadillac SRX, CTS and Escalade) that are exported from the U.S. to China.


•GM started doing business in China in the 1920s and exited the market following the 1949 Chinese Revolution. GM returned to the country in the late 1990s in partnership with Shanghai Automotive Industry Corp. (SAIC) and formed the Shanghai GM (SGM) joint venture (JV) to produce Buicks in China. Other auto manufacturers like Ford, VW and BMW are now racing to the China market in order to play catch up to GM's sales success.

•GM did not use U.S. government bailout money to build its manufacturing footprint in China. Since the bankruptcy, GM has announced investments at 30 U.S. facilities totaling more than $7.1 billion, which created or retained 17,800 jobs.

•GM emerged from bankruptcy as a more nimble and robust company. GM employs 77,000 people in the U.S. and 205,000 people globally.

In order to do business in China, every manufacturer must have a JV partnership with a Chinese company. GM has strategic partnerships in 30 countries, including China, that positions the GM brand as a leading automaker in the world’s largest and fastest-growing automotive markets.

•Last year, a Chinese patriotic film, The Birth of the Party, was produced to recognize the 90th anniversary of the communist party. The film was sponsored by SGM, not GM. SGM is a company owned jointly by GM and SAIC, one of the world’s largest industrial companies. As part of the sponsorships, Cadillac SLS vehicles were provided to transport the crew and actors. These vehicles were not filmed in the movie itself. GM did not endorse the film and does not have operational control of SGM.


My question (note I said "MY" - this is MY opinion and not necessarily the opinion of the company for which I work...)

WHEN is our Goverment going to lay the law down and say to Japan and China and Korea and the European Union: "You either play fair - and open your markets to us - or we are going to put the same barriers and tarriffs on YOUR goods coming into the U.S. (and Canada) as you put on OUR goods......

VOTE congress and senate members OUT!

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Old 06-14-2012, 02:20 PM   #31
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To all the educated people who had logical responses. Scott, Pete, Fen... ETC
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Old 06-14-2012, 02:23 PM   #32
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Has anybody seen the HBO documentary "The Last Truck: Closing of a GM Plant" ?

Makes me a little :(

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Its a shame that these big companies packed up and jumped the border to save $$$ but that's capitalism to the core and who am I to tell someone that they cant move their factory.

Change is always a tough pill to swallow but there are other opportunities like going to the gulf as they suggested in the documentary.
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Old 06-14-2012, 02:28 PM   #33
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Old 06-14-2012, 03:33 PM   #34
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>>>You absolutely can not deny that these corporate thugs are buying off politicians and shaping the rules to what suits them.

YEAH!!!....totally unlike the "Eagle Boy Scouts" in the unions that spent about 400 million dollars in the last election huh?

Saw a bumper sticker that rang true.....

"If elections changed anything...they would be outlawed"
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Old 06-14-2012, 03:35 PM   #35
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I can't figure out what the original complaint was? Was he upset that GM doesn't build every single vehicle it sells in the United States?

If that's the case, seriously, take a macroeconomics class.
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Old 06-14-2012, 03:35 PM   #36
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I know, I know he is a polarizing person but he did fight for the working man in 1989 "Roger and me" film. He is still banned from entering GMs building in detroit for calling them out on laying off American workers. He grew up in detroit and his dad worked the assembly line at GM. Its a good film and should be watched with an open mind.

Fact is GM is a corporation and like most corporations they don't care about the working man, they care about wall street, period. We all bought camaros and in doing so helped the Canadian worker and lined the pockets of the top 1% here in the US.

The unions are the problem. The workers that work at the Toyota plants are non-union and still happy. They're probably happiest that they don't have to pay union dues that are wasted on the political front, instead of doing what they're intended to do.

This country was built on free enterprise and Michael Moore isn't standing up for any common working man. Your facts are seriously messed up.
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Unions, lawyers, and politicians have done this. America has allowed it. Unfortunate.
The unions have killed manufacturing and American jobs. Their insane demands have caused manufacturing to go elsewhere.
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Thank you to everyone in this thread who actually took the time to educate themselves instead of simply believing what a stupid Youtube video some dumb moron made.
Totally!! Was the video suggesting that GM produce cars for the Chinese market in the US? The CEO was addressing the Chinese in the Chinese market, but the narrator goes and talks about the US market. What an idiot.
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Oh, but they could be so much more fun. I'm tempted. . .
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Old 06-14-2012, 05:25 PM   #41
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Unions in a nutshell:

Then - Created to ensure safe working conditions at a time when working conditions were horrendous.

Now - Milk the companies for as much money as possible under the pretense of workers' rights.
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Old 06-14-2012, 05:27 PM   #42
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The Sonic I just traded for was built here in the U.S.
I have a 1.4T LTZ.

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