Dumbest argument on the internet

rez333 · 06-12-2012, 12:41 PM

This argument is almost used exclusively in car arguments and it goes like this:

Version 1: Article raves on about a new car and its amazing specs and performance. Car guy writes a comment to the article and says if he spends $40k (difference in price) on his $20k car, he can beat the car that’s been reviewed.

Version 2: article raves on about a new car and its amazing specs and performance. Car guy writes a comment to the article and says some other car (that he doesn’t own) performs better.

Why argument #1 is stupid:

Who cares? Talk is cheap – it’s one thing to talk about spending $40k on a piece of junk, it’s another to actually do it.
Even if they did spend $40k in mods, what the heck does that have to do with the car being reviewed in the article?
How do mods diminish the merits of the car being reviewed?
What’s the purpose of bringing up the piece of junk that supposedly could be modified better with $40k? So people can praise and want the said piece of junk?

Why argument #2 is stupid:

Why the heck do they care to compare a car they don’t even own? Why does it make them feel “better” to do so?
Even if they do own the car they are comparing with, what the heck does that have to do with the car being reviewed in the article?
How does the performance of some other car (usually in a different price bracket) diminish the merits of the car being reviewed?
What’s the purpose of bringing up some other car? So people can praise the other car?

The human ego makes people do the most amazingly stupid things.

Sir Nuke · 06-12-2012, 01:15 PM

this happens because the people involved in these arguments look exactly like this......

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Bad@ssCamaro · 06-12-2012, 03:51 PM

Maybe Camaro5 could sponsor a proper way to have a discussion within a thread for those that join so as to avoid conflict and leave out personal attacks and how to identify them. Teach people the proper methods of debate so as not to offend and stick to the facts.....LOL, jk...yea like that will ever happen.

People can express their opinions on whatever they feel is important to them whether they are right or wrong. If you get irritated by the repetetive nature of the debate, don't get involved. Your rant is not going to change something that is human nature and that's been around since we've been in existence. This, IMO, is part of the process that leads to changes, although it might be too slow for some.

of course at times we feel like that guy in Sir Nukes post above.

Sir Nuke · 06-12-2012, 03:59 PM

True enough.....

*DGthe3* · 06-12-2012, 05:30 PM

Oh come now ... there are far dumber arguments on the internet (its a rather big place you know). Just go to YouTube & you'll find lots of examples of people making much more ridiculous arguments (for a double dose of dumb arguments, try some videos 'revealing' a conspiracy -they'll be in the vid and the comments). Compared to that sort of BS, those two examples you mentioned seem to come from geniuses.

CamaroSkooter · 06-12-2012, 07:15 PM

The obligatory "WGAS" seems appropriate...

PQ · 06-12-2012, 07:20 PM

OP in violation of proper camaro5.com signature rules.

I agree though.

Let me add to the first list.

* You can modify a volkswagon rabbit to run 11s. Who cares? The car is being reviewed as stock.

2001ragtop · 06-18-2012, 08:48 AM

The dumbest argument on the internet is about two extremely expensive similarly priced (4-seat) sports cars, made by different companies, which both offer slight variations in the method it uses to accelerate.....and then trying to decide "which one" is better, when both of them have the SAME level of appeal in general. (and each car has it's own specific set of flaws as well.)

Then the debate gets even worse when "car company A" has fans that are so biased towards what "they" like, that they take the name of the vehicle the "dont like" to something derogatory....and they think "this" enhances or is productive (on a technical level) when it comes to their discussion of the differences between the two.

Similar arguement that goes on for DECADES: manual and automatic transmission. V6 vs V8. OHV vs OHC. IRS vs Rigid axle. natural oil or synthetic.

MikeSVX · 06-22-2012, 02:38 AM

I think arguing about the dumbest argument on the Internet has just become the dumbest argument on the Internet............

06-12-2012, 03:51 PM	#3
Bad@ssCamaro BeckyD Rocks :-) Drives: 2015 1SS/1LE Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: CT Posts: 5,781 View My Garage	Maybe Camaro5 could sponsor a proper way to have a discussion within a thread for those that join so as to avoid conflict and leave out personal attacks and how to identify them. Teach people the proper methods of debate so as not to offend and stick to the facts.....LOL, jk...yea like that will ever happen. People can express their opinions on whatever they feel is important to them whether they are right or wrong. If you get irritated by the repetetive nature of the debate, don't get involved. Your rant is not going to change something that is human nature and that's been around since we've been in existence. This, IMO, is part of the process that leads to changes, although it might be too slow for some. of course at times we feel like that guy in Sir Nukes post above. __________________ 2015 CRT 1SS/1LE RS/Recaro's/NPP/Nav/Rear vision pkg./BA speaker upgrade. Stage 3 BMR cam, ARH 1 7/8 headers, CAI, BMR 1.25 drop springs, JPSS Billet Bushings, Peddars Cradle Bushings...460 whp...so far....SOLD, but not forgotten!

06-12-2012, 03:59 PM	#4
Sir Nuke Master of All Things Drives: '26 Corvette Stingray Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Southeast of Houston, Texas Posts: 22,711 View My Garage	True enough..... __________________

06-12-2012, 05:30 PM	#5
DGthe3 Moderator.ca Drives: 05 Grand Am GT Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Niagara, Canada Posts: 25,366	Oh come now ... there are far dumber arguments on the internet (its a rather big place you know). Just go to YouTube & you'll find lots of examples of people making much more ridiculous arguments (for a double dose of dumb arguments, try some videos 'revealing' a conspiracy -they'll be in the vid and the comments). Compared to that sort of BS, those two examples you mentioned seem to come from geniuses. __________________ Note, if I've gotten any facts wrong in the above, just ignore any points I made with them __________________ Originally Posted by FbodFather My sister's dentist's brother's cousin's housekeeper's dog-breeder's nephew sells coffee filters to the company that provides coffee to General Motors...... ........and HE WOULD KNOW!!!! __________________ Camaro Fest sub-forum

06-12-2012, 07:15 PM	#6
CamaroSkooter Retarded One-Legged Owl Drives: 2010 Black Camaro 2SS Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 9,745	The obligatory "WGAS" seems appropriate... __________________ My VIN = 2G1FK1EJ9A9105017 Build Date: 04-23-2009 according to: http://www.compnine.com/vid.php

06-12-2012, 07:20 PM	#7
PQ Booooosted. Drives: 2010 Supercharged SS Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 36,717 View My Garage	OP in violation of proper camaro5.com signature rules. I agree though. Let me add to the first list. * You can modify a volkswagon rabbit to run 11s. Who cares? The car is being reviewed as stock. __________________

06-12-2012, 12:41 PM	#1
rez333 Drives: 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: St. Joseph Posts: 1,283	Dumbest argument on the internet This argument is almost used exclusively in car arguments and it goes like this: Version 1: Article raves on about a new car and its amazing specs and performance. Car guy writes a comment to the article and says if he spends $40k (difference in price) on his $20k car, he can beat the car that’s been reviewed. Version 2: article raves on about a new car and its amazing specs and performance. Car guy writes a comment to the article and says some other car (that he doesn’t own) performs better. Why argument #1 is stupid: Who cares? Talk is cheap – it’s one thing to talk about spending $40k on a piece of junk, it’s another to actually do it. Even if they did spend $40k in mods, what the heck does that have to do with the car being reviewed in the article? How do mods diminish the merits of the car being reviewed? What’s the purpose of bringing up the piece of junk that supposedly could be modified better with $40k? So people can praise and want the said piece of junk? Why argument #2 is stupid: Why the heck do they care to compare a car they don’t even own? Why does it make them feel “better” to do so? Even if they do own the car they are comparing with, what the heck does that have to do with the car being reviewed in the article? How does the performance of some other car (usually in a different price bracket) diminish the merits of the car being reviewed? What’s the purpose of bringing up some other car? So people can praise the other car? The human ego makes people do the most amazingly stupid things. __________________ If someone from the 1950s magically appeared, what would be the most difficult thing to explain? "I have a device in my pocket that can access the entirety of knowledge known to man. I use it to look at pictures of cars and have arguments with strangers."

06-12-2012, 01:15 PM	#2
Sir Nuke Master of All Things Drives: '26 Corvette Stingray Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Southeast of Houston, Texas Posts: 22,711 View My Garage	this happens because the people involved in these arguments look exactly like this...... __________________

06-18-2012, 08:48 AM	#8
2001ragtop Drives: V8 american car Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Dallas, Tx Posts: 1,417	The dumbest argument on the internet is about two extremely expensive similarly priced (4-seat) sports cars, made by different companies, which both offer slight variations in the method it uses to accelerate.....and then trying to decide "which one" is better, when both of them have the SAME level of appeal in general. (and each car has it's own specific set of flaws as well.) Then the debate gets even worse when "car company A" has fans that are so biased towards what "they" like, that they take the name of the vehicle the "dont like" to something derogatory....and they think "this" enhances or is productive (on a technical level) when it comes to their discussion of the differences between the two. Similar arguement that goes on for DECADES: manual and automatic transmission. V6 vs V8. OHV vs OHC. IRS vs Rigid axle. natural oil or synthetic.

06-22-2012, 02:38 AM	#9
MikeSVX The magic smoke genie.... Drives: Jewels (2010 RJT 1SS) Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Escondido, CA Posts: 2,294	I think arguing about the dumbest argument on the Internet has just become the dumbest argument on the Internet............