I have fallen to the Darkside.

[Zabo]

Originally Posted by DeathChill

Eh, I wouldn't really use that as a basis. I'd say throw a couple extra thousand on the price for the stripper car and that way you should be safe either way.

True. Places the base in 1SS territory at MSRP. BUT, Z plan still takes a good chunk out of that and makes it a fight between a 2LT and a GT.

302ci 400/375 vs 304/275. Unless they decide to turbo the 3.6 LLT to keep in step with the Ecoboost motor, I could reconsider; but cost could still be a factor. Z-Plan is a really big thing about this decision guys.

Originally Posted by Vash

Why don't you get an LS?

As I said, I'm waiting on the 302/5.0L powerplant being dropped into the GT in 2010. Even LS Camaros are subject to 'tard dealer price premiums, which are continually steering this money-strapped soon to be college grad away from the Camaro for the time being.

[quote]If you want a Mustang get a used GT and save a boatload of cash.[quote]
I will be picking up a used 2010 Camaro 1SS though within the next 5 years; I've said this over and over. So don't fret guys, I haven't given up on the Camaro. Times aren't right for me to buy it unlike the Mustang. And look on the bright side, kids. You know where to go to flog a mustang and test your muster against a new Ford without dealing with snooty 'stangers that don't know the definition of sportsmanship.

I really can't tell much diff between the 2 gens.

That's because there really isn't via sheet metal. The suspension and handling were the latest generation improvements. The 302 is going to upgrade the powerplant in '11 and after that the S-197 is going to be around for the forseeable future for Ford. Much like Zeta has been saved by Henderson for use in the Camaro for that same time period. It's now a game of who can handle better as well as straight line runs.

[GothamCamaro]

Originally Posted by Zabo

X-Plan is Stock holders
A-Plan is for current factory employees
Z-Plan is for retired factory employees

A/Z Plan is the rock bottom price for any car from Ford. In total, I had the grabber down to a 19K 5 year note. Way under 300/mo which is why I jumped. Or I could be paying for a 2LT @340/mo for 7yrs come Mid 2010 when I could have sourced a track pack and 302 stang for the same price and paid it off in 5.

NUMBERS MAN! NUMBERS!!

I can't believe you went to the darkside.

:fighting0040:

[bigralph]

Are you getting the 2010 mustang for looks or for price plus the 5.0 engine? If you pick price and the 5.0 engine. Have you ever consider looking at a used 03-04 cobra because they already have 400hp with forge internals. To me the cobras look hell a lot better then the 2010 mustangs, but to each it own.

[Super83Z]

I think Mustang guys won't have much to say about price difference once the 5.0 cars come around.

[Tactical Z]

Originally Posted by bigralph

Are you getting the 2010 mustang for looks or for price plus the 5.0 engine? If you pick price and the 5.0 engine. Have you ever consider looking at a used 03-04 cobra because they already have 400hp with forge internals. To me the cobras look hell a lot better then the 2010 mustangs, but to each it own.

Cobra doesnt have 400HP stock, it has 390, and you may argue "OHH WHAT A BIG DIFFERENCE" but it is

And for the First time...go with the Camaro even if it is a LT V6.

[fdjizm]

Originally Posted by Tactical Z

Cobra doesnt have 400HP stock, it has 390, and you may argue "OHH WHAT A BIG DIFFERENCE" but it is

And for the First time...go with the Camaro even if it is a LT V6.

03-04 cobras were under-rated, some of them put 350-370 to the wheels, google

[djinva]

You might also want to consider reliability, a proven LS series small block Chevy vs a new tot he market alum double overhead cam Ford engine that is not proven. I know where my money would be.

[fdjizm]

Originally Posted by djinva

You might also want to consider reliability, a proven LS series small block Chevy vs a new tot he market alum double overhead cam Ford engine that is not proven. I know where my money would be.

lol i'm pretty sure ford knows what they are doing.

[djinva]

Originally Posted by fdjizm

lol i'm pretty sure ford knows what they are doing.

I am not so sure, I remember when the overhead cam 4.6 first came out in the Lincoln, it was junk.

Plus it's FORD!

[fdjizm]

Originally Posted by djinva

I am not so sure, I remember when the overhead cam 4.6 first came out in the Lincoln, it was junk.

Plus it's FORD!

your sources?

[Georgie]

Originally Posted by djinva

I am not so sure, I remember when the overhead cam 4.6 first came out in the Lincoln, it was junk.

Plus it's FORD!

unfortunately we are dealing with a much more competent Ford these days

[Zabo]

...*looks up Gtahvit on speed dial*

Keep it civil, children. Unless someone is giving a Camaro/Mustang away, I'll listen to my wallet.

[UsedTaHaveA68]

Personally I think you made a good choice.

Come on guys. I mean, I know it's a Camaro forum and I know I personally like the Camaro better, but let's think about this. (And I know this isn't exactly how things are for him, but I'm making a point).

If someone said "Here you go. Here's $27,000. You can spend ONLY this amount. You may not draw from your own funds or get another loan. This is the only money you're allowed to spend. And you can spend it on one of two cars.

1) A brand new Camaro 1LT, V-6, DOHC DI 304hp.
OR
2) A brand new Mustang GT, 5.0 DOHC 400hp.

Honestly guys, how many of you would choose the V-6 over the V-8? Personally if I could only afford one or the other, I'd be riding a stallion.

That being said, I hope you make the right choice, work some over time, save up some money over the next 6 months, or win a $10,000 scratch off lottery ticket and make the decision to go back to a new 1SS Camaro

[Kwaz1335]

He is a SPY!!!!!! Lets hang him!!!!!
In all seriousness...its what he wants...let him go...if it was true love..he will come back