Flashing headlights - Free Speech

[ROBOSSRS]

Originally Posted by aSSian

yeah, but i agree with warning people of dangers in the road, so your comment really doesn't make any sense.

10-4 good buddy you da man.

[PoorMansCamaro]

Originally Posted by ROBOSSRS

10-4 good buddy you da man.

i know this.

[ROBOSSRS]

Originally Posted by aSSian

i know this.

Get out the shovel.

[PoorMansCamaro]

rather get out the booze!

[ROBOSSRS]

Originally Posted by aSSian

rather get out the booze!

Ah, now I see !

[AdamZ]

Ugh...well I guess I should get fired then. I pull over about 15 cars a day. I write about 2-3 tickets a day. I'm just not making my city enough $$$. I didn't know writing tickets was all about $$$. I thought it causes less of a bloody mess when I have to help clean up the bodies and scenes. Where have I been?

[Steve Dallas]

Originally Posted by AdamZ

DNA...that's a joke right lol? I'm not to big on semen samples and all on my traffic stops...maybe I am doing it wrong

Unfortunately, it is not a joke. Further research found this. Now, it differs in that it says Indiana only gives 1 dollar rather than 2 dollars per infraction.

ALABAMA
DNA Database Fund
“In all municipal, district and circuit court cases, both criminal and civil, in bond forfeiture proceedings, upon initiation of attachment, garnishment or execution proceedings and upon the issuance of any alias or capias warrant of arrest, a fee in the amount of $2.00 shall be assessed and collected. The fee shall be collected by the court clerk and remitted to the Alabama DNA Database Fund. Provided, however, that there shall be no additional fees imposed for violations relating to parking tickets or small claims cases.” Increased to $12 in 2009 to pay for arrestee DNA testing.

ARIZONA
DNA Identification System Fund
3% additional penalty assessment on every fine, penalty and forfeiture imposed and collected by the courts for criminal offenses and for civil traffic violations (state and local). Increased in 2007 to 7% to pay for arrestee testing.

CALIFORNIA
DNA Identification Fund
$2 is levied for every $10 in criminal penalties – including Vehicle Code infractions, but excluding parking offenses -- with revenues shared by the state and local overnments. The first dollar goes directly to the California Department of Justice’s offender DNA program to offset the costs. For the second dollar, the state would receive 70 percent of the revenue in the first two years, 50 percent in the third year, and 25 percent annually thereafter. Local government will receive the difference to support DNA sample collection, as well as other related activities such as analysis, tracking, and processing of crime scene samples. (California has a large system of local labs who are responsible for the DNA analysis of criminal cases). $7 million was “borrowed” from the state General Fund for first year implementation costs, to be paid back as collections grow. Furthermore, if an offender sample has been backlogged for 6 months, the state is required by law to send the sample to a private lab for analysis. The first dollar (going to the state) increased to $2 in 2010 in order to provide savings to the general fund (an annual appropriation of $45 million was rescinded as the additional fine is expected to pay for the difference). * * DNAResource.com

COLORADO
$2.50 on each criminal conviction or in a deferred judgment and sentence for a felony, a misdemeanor, or misdemeanor traffic offense, charged pursuant to state statute.

INDIANA
DNA Sample Processing Fund
$1 is assessed for any action in which a person is: convicted of an offense; required to pay a pretrial diversion fee; found to have committed an infraction; or found to have violated an ordinance.

MISSOURI
DNA Profiling Analysis Fund
$30 surcharge in all circuit court proceedings filed in the state and for all felony convictions (including “guilty” and “no contest” pleas), and a $15 surcharge for all misdemeanor convictions (including “guilty” and “no contest” pleas). Surcharge is $60 if the person is convicted of a serious drug offense. Additionally, if in the prior fiscal year, the state's general revenue did not increase by 2% or more, the money from the surcharges will be deposited into the state's general revenue fund. Otherwise, this money is deposited into the "DNA Profiling Analysis Fund."

NEW JERSEY
Forensic DNA Laboratory Fund
$2 is added to every fine or penalty imposed and collected by a court for any criminal violation and for any motor vehicle or traffic violation in the state.

NORTH CAROLINA
$2 is added to every criminal conviction in the superior or district court, or when costs are assessed against the prosecuting witness, except that this is not to include infractions.

[ROBOSSRS]

Originally Posted by AdamZ

Ugh...well I guess I should get fired then. I pull over about 15 cars a day. I write about 2-3 tickets a day. I'm just not making my city enough $$$. I didn't know writing tickets was all about $$$. I thought it causes less of a bloody mess when I have to help clean up the bodies and scenes. Where have I been?

I think once you have been doing your job for a bit longer you may find there are quotas just like any other business. You may have to justify your job at some point in time. Don't get me wrong there is a need to get speeders.

[kalimus]

So would police apply the same context as those rules if say...

I saw someone robbing someone else. I was bigger, they were unarmed, and I yelled at him to stop what he was doing. He stopped. He ran away.

Technically, he still committed a crime, even if he didn't take anything right? I prevented him from continuing the crime by telling him to stop. Am I in the wrong? Apply as:

Someone is speeding (already committing the crime). I flash my lights (telling him to stop speeding/committing the crime) and he stops. Although they are not exactly the same thing.. just like the first "scenario"... the driver was in the process of committing a crime, I "yelled at him", and he stopped.

It's only different because I KNOW where the cops are? What's to say he wouldn't have slowed down by himself? Can't prove he wouldn't have... And on top of that... what if the person I flashed my lights at wasn't ACTUALLY speeding? I can't tell if they are or aren't. In that case, all I'm doing is telling them where the cops are. I can tell anyone where cops are sitting if they are NOT doing anything wrong and it's not illegal...

Sorry, I just like discussions

[AdamZ]

Originally Posted by kalimus

So would police apply the same context as those rules if say...

I saw someone robbing someone else. I was bigger, they were unarmed, and I yelled at him to stop what he was doing. He stopped. He ran away.

Technically, he still committed a crime, even if he didn't take anything right? I prevented him from continuing the crime by telling him to stop. Am I in the wrong? Apply as:

Someone is speeding (already committing the crime). I flash my lights (telling him to stop speeding/committing the crime) and he stops. Although they are not exactly the same thing.. just like the first "scenario"... the driver was in the process of committing a crime, I "yelled at him", and he stopped. No one thinks, when you flash your lights at them, "Oh man, that guy caught me speeding, I better slow down." They think oh...cop nearby? Thanks for the help man.

It's only different because I KNOW where the cops are? What's to say he wouldn't have slowed down by himself? Can't prove he wouldn't have... And on top of that... what if the person I flashed my lights at wasn't ACTUALLY speeding? I can't tell if they are or aren't. In that case, all I'm doing is telling them where the cops are. I can tell anyone where cops are sitting if they are NOT doing anything wrong and it's not illegal...

Sorry, I just like discussions

Discuss away man this is my job. I see this as completely different. Not even in the same galaxy. The way I see it... in order for them to be the same you would have to go to the guy robbing someone else...tell him you see the cops coming and he needs to stop or he'll get caught. Which would be aiding him. No one thinks, when you flash them, "oh man this guy caught me speeding I better slow down" ... they think "oh man theres a cop ahead, i better slow down, thanks bud!"

[AdamZ]

Wow good job. You guys made aSSian go off on a rant http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=226251

[kalimus]

I can accept that point of view.

So how about the last part then. In order for me to be breaking this law, that means that someone has to be committing a crime. If those cars aren't speeding when they go through the speed trap, how do you go about proving they were committing the crime in the first place? Because if, in fact, they were not doing anything wrong, then I in turn have done nothing wrong. Is this true or false?

IE in the other situation, if there was a guy walking down the sidewalk minding his own business, I could tell him "Dude, there is a cop around the corner" and it would be just fine.

[AdamZ]

Originally Posted by kalimus

I can accept that point of view.

So how about the last part then. In order for me to be breaking this law, that means that someone has to be committing a crime. If those cars aren't speeding when they go through the speed trap, how do you go about proving they were committing the crime in the first place? Because if, in fact, they were not doing anything wrong, then I in turn have done nothing wrong. Is this true or false?

IE in the other situation, if there was a guy walking down the sidewalk minding his own business, I could tell him "Dude, there is a cop around the corner" and it would be just fine.

Damnitttt stop asking gray area questions lol. Yeah, I don't know. I would still find a reason to pull them over and tell them not to flash their brights. I would never ticket for this though honestly.

[2001ragtop]

is it illegal if a girl flashes her headlights (breasts) to slow people down?