2013 Mustang GT500 MEGA THREAD - Page 84

newagemuscle · 05-21-2012, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by theragtopguy

The Ford bodies go to the Shelby American plant in Las Vegas where they remove and replace lots of suspension stuff and modify and test the engines, tune them to the n'th degree.....the employees doing it are Shelby American employees....the cars are titled as Shelbys....so it's a little more than just using the name!!

I still prefer the ZL-1 though.

SO WRONG

Deki · 05-21-2012, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by theragtopguy

I said the bodies went to Shelby American, I know they are originally assembled at Ford. My point was, the Shelby is quite a bit more than just 'badge engineering' using the Shelby name. The legend had total input.

That's all.....didn't expect to start a pissing match here....

But the bodies don't go to SA. Nothing does. They induldged an 89 year old guy by letting him get in a car and tell them about feel. He's not an engineer. He's a race car driver that retired in 1959. If you think that Ford let Mr. Shelby develop anything on this car, GM should have hired my grandpa to help ZL1 engineers.

Fenderaddict2 · 05-21-2012, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by theragtopguy

I said the bodies went to Shelby American, I know they are originally assembled at Ford. My point was, the Shelby is quite a bit more than just 'badge engineering' using the Shelby name. The legend had total input.

That's all.....didn't expect to start a pissing match here....

No part of the GT500 goes to Shelby American. As they licence his name they ask for his input. And they promised Shelby the 200 MPH speed.

motorhead · 05-21-2012, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by theragtopguy

I said the bodies went to Shelby American, I know they are originally assembled at Ford. My point was, the Shelby is quite a bit more than just 'badge engineering' using the Shelby name. The legend had total input.

That's all.....didn't expect to start a pissing match here....

It's not a pissing match because you are completely wrong.

harrington81 · 05-21-2012, 02:30 PM

i like it. But 285's in the rear? They added over 100 more horses and kept the tire size's the same? Those tires are way to small. The weight distribution to at 57/43 that's terrible. The ZL1's still better.

jlawrence613 · 05-21-2012, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by harrington81

i like it. But 285's in the rear? They added over 100 more horses and kept the tire size's the same? Those tires are way to small. The weight distribution to at 57/43 that's terrible. The ZL1's still better.

In your opinion, what are the small tires stopping it from doing?

SSNIGHTMARE · 05-21-2012, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenBear

Mods,

Don't close the thread, please just move it to its appropriate forum, Chevy Camaro vs ... forum.

Thanks

Ya let's hide it in a section where no one will see it. Y not leave it exactly like the SVT forums do?

Fenderaddict2 · 05-21-2012, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by peteypab2133

I honestly think the two cars are only making each other better. We know the pony wars over the years were generally close, but always seemed to land on the camaro's side.

In my opinion its a chess match. Lets just hope its not check mate.

Can't wait till they are both on new lighter platforms. Exciting times indeed.

ffrcobra_65 · 05-21-2012, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth GT500

Amen brother......amen.

I was there in Oshawa when Big Al claimed the ZL1 would DESTROY the competition and they'd build as many ZL1s as it took to make sure everyone who wanted one got one.

0 - 2.

well, it still destroys Kias, Hondas, Toyotas.

Fenderaddict2 · 05-21-2012, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by KMPrenger

Only place left to do battle is on the track, (or did I miss that?) but really not many owners will be tracking their ZL1s/GT500s.

That said, by the time you factor in the difference in price and use that for the ZL1 you are much closer....I think it IS something to consider.

But stock vs stock....yeah we know how that is.

I see Mustangs of all stripes at every single track day. Have yet to see a Camaro as much as I'd love too.

Fenderaddict2 · 05-21-2012, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by grimmace

Isn't the new gt500 a 2013? ZL1 is a 2012. 2012 ZL1 outperforms a 2012 GT500 correct? So now your left with a 2013 GT500 outperforming a 2012 ZL1. GM still has time to add something for 2013 if they choose don't they? Either way its great for both cars. Enjoy it while it lasts....

Fair enough. The ZL1 was the best for a month. Coulda been 3 but I think there was some sort of delay getting it into owners hands.

drobbins2 · 05-21-2012, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BigHemiSrt

Ive been saying that for a while now, but people thought i was crazy saying this thing will be faster than a C6Z.

Have you came to reality yet? It should be sinking in by now...

See, this is kinda what I was thinking when they first announced 650hp. You're knocking on the door of the vette at those numbers, in a straight line anyway. The 2012 zr1 is only 638! It feels, shit even appears... putting those kind of numbers in a production muscle car that ford was not trying to beat the camaro but the vette. But its easy for ford to save face if there is any truth to that.

BigHemiSrt · 05-21-2012, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by drobbins2

See, this is kinda what I was thinking when they first announced 650hp. You're knocking on the door of the vette at those numbers, in a straight line anyway. The 2012 zr1 is only 638! It feels, shit even appears... putting those kind of numbers in a production muscle car that ford was not trying to beat the camaro but the vette. But its easy for ford to save face if there is any truth to that.

The late great Mr.Shelby always did say something along those lines. Wanted to build a mustang that could go out and beat a vette. Looks like its coming true with the exception of the ZR1.

HPT BANDIT · 05-21-2012, 02:52 PM

I just noticed your mods.. I love a G5X3 cam. I had one in my old Z06. Pounds the ground pretty hard even on a 114 lsa.

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05-21-2012, 02:30 PM	#1167
harrington81 Drives: 2015 Camaro zl1 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: British Columbia, Canada Posts: 91	i like it. But 285's in the rear? They added over 100 more horses and kept the tire size's the same? Those tires are way to small. The weight distribution to at 57/43 that's terrible. The ZL1's still better.

05-21-2012, 02:52 PM	#1176
HPT BANDIT Drives: 1999 Ford Lightning Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 86	I just noticed your mods.. I love a G5X3 cam. I had one in my old Z06. Pounds the ground pretty hard even on a 114 lsa.