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Old 05-19-2012, 07:29 PM   #71
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The magazine article I read said that the SS is a code name. They are still deciding whether they want to resurrect a prior name, or use a new one. I guess some people are hoping for "Chevelle". from what I understand, the SS does stand for Sport Sedan, but I agree it is confusing. Hopefully GM learned it's lesson with badge engineering, and will design this new car to look differently than the Commadore. Chrysler is doing will with their ressurected nameplates (Challenger, Charger, Dart, hell even the 300), hopefully Chevy will take notice.
Why on earth would GM want to spend a dime making it look different than a Commodore if the Commodore is a nice looking car?
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Old 05-19-2012, 08:01 PM   #72
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Did you see the pictures I posted? NASCAR is phasing in a new car in 2013, and they have given the auto manufacturers room for brand identity again. Are you telling me you think the charger and fusion look alike?
The only thing you can tell from the Nascar car is the general shape, which is going to be identical between all 3 anyway. Some of the detailing will be different, but you can't see any detailing on the Chevy due to the camo.
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Old 05-19-2012, 08:31 PM   #73
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I'm excited for GM to be stepping back into the V8, RWD ring! I had a serious car-crush (...in a good way) on the G8, and nearly bought one in the spring of '08 when they first started appearing around here.

However, I have to go with the crowd and say "SS" is the stupidest name yet! So what will the Performance version be called? SS SS? SS Grand Sport?

There are alot, and I do mean alot, of names that Chevy could draw upon..like Monte Carlo, or yes..even Chevelle. Hell, I would be happy if they brought back the Nova name plate. However, that being said, I sure hope that GM doesnt show up to the party a day late and in out of vogue style! I sure hope they have a high performance version to fully and properly compete with the Charger SRT8 and dont just settle for "less".

But, never the less, at least they arent completely MIA like Ford is.
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Old 05-19-2012, 08:59 PM   #74
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I'm excited for GM to be stepping back into the V8, RWD ring! I had a serious car-crush (...in a good way) on the G8, and nearly bought one in the spring of '08 when they first started appearing around here.

However, I have to go with the crowd and say "SS" is the stupidest name yet! So what will the Performance version be called? SS SS? SS Grand Sport?

There are alot, and I do mean alot, of names that Chevy could draw upon..like Monte Carlo, or yes..even Chevelle. Hell, I would be happy if they brought back the Nova name plate. However, that being said, I sure hope that GM doesnt show up to the party a day late and in out of vogue style! I sure hope they have a high performance version to fully and properly compete with the Charger SRT8 and dont just settle for "less".

But, never the less, at least they arent completely MIA like Ford is.
There is only going to be one version. The performance one, also it is going to be a limited edition. I feel that the Austrailion version will be short lived and will be replaced with a domestic RWD V8 sedan based one one of the upcoming platforms.
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Old 05-19-2012, 09:05 PM   #75
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The only thing you can tell from the Nascar car is the general shape, which is going to be identical between all 3 anyway. Some of the detailing will be different, but you can't see any detailing on the Chevy due to the camo.
Identical? Do some research on the 2013 Sprint Cup racecar.
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Old 05-19-2012, 09:18 PM   #76
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It will be the Holden Commodore V8. Holden is GM's Australian logo. It will basically be a Pontiac G8 which was based on the Commodore. Check out my albums to see more.
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Old 05-19-2012, 10:06 PM   #77
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The magazine article I read said that the SS is a code name. They are still deciding whether they want to resurrect a prior name, or use a new one. I guess some people are hoping for "Chevelle". from what I understand, the SS does stand for Sport Sedan, but I agree it is confusing. Hopefully GM learned it's lesson with badge engineering, and will design this new car to look differently than the Commadore. Chrysler is doing will with their ressurected nameplates (Challenger, Charger, Dart, hell even the 300), hopefully Chevy will take notice.
It's not a code name.

And who cares if it's a rebadged Commodore? It's not sold here as anything else. That's the way you should rebadge cars.
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Old 05-19-2012, 10:22 PM   #78
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Identical? Do some research on the 2013 Sprint Cup racecar.
Nascar has been pretty quiet about it thus far. I've looked (while watching the all star race) for info and all that seems to be said is 'here is the 2013 Nascar Fusion' and 'here is the 2013 Nascar Charger'. I can't find anything about what the specs on the new cars will be, what sort of variability the manufactures are going to be allowed, and what they're going to have to have the same between all the cars.

But based on what I've seen of the Charger & Fusion (and now the SS) I think its pretty safe to say that all the important bits will remain the same between all the cars. By that I mean the wheel base, the side profile, and other things like that. Sure, they have a different fascia & the bodywork on the side is a reminicent of the production car. But its all being grafted onto the CoT chassis. But that also means that every major exterior dimension will be almost the same between all the different race cars and those dimensions will not be shared with the production car. This should be obvious to anyone looking at the pictures of the cars.

Now, the point that I was trying to make is that while there are some details that are different (like side bodywork) ... those details are hidden by camo on the Chevy. The only things you can see from the picture are the things that are going to be common with the Dodges, Fords, and Toyotas. Nothing that is SS specific was actually shown in the picture that GM provided. We can't tell anything about what the production car will look like from that picture, which is what I said in my first post about this.


You said that it was pretty indicitive of the production version. I don't see it, so please inform me as to what I'm missing in that picture.
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Old 05-20-2012, 09:05 AM   #79
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Nascar has been pretty quiet about it thus far. I've looked (while watching the all star race) for info and all that seems to be said is 'here is the 2013 Nascar Fusion' and 'here is the 2013 Nascar Charger'. I can't find anything about what the specs on the new cars will be, what sort of variability the manufactures are going to be allowed, and what they're going to have to have the same between all the cars.

But based on what I've seen of the Charger & Fusion (and now the SS) I think its pretty safe to say that all the important bits will remain the same between all the cars. By that I mean the wheel base, the side profile, and other things like that. Sure, they have a different fascia & the bodywork on the side is a reminicent of the production car. But its all being grafted onto the CoT chassis. But that also means that every major exterior dimension will be almost the same between all the different race cars and those dimensions will not be shared with the production car. This should be obvious to anyone looking at the pictures of the cars.

Now, the point that I was trying to make is that while there are some details that are different (like side bodywork) ... those details are hidden by camo on the Chevy. The only things you can see from the picture are the things that are going to be common with the Dodges, Fords, and Toyotas. Nothing that is SS specific was actually shown in the picture that GM provided. We can't tell anything about what the production car will look like from that picture, which is what I said in my first post about this.


You said that it was pretty indicitive of the production version. I don't see it, so please inform me as to what I'm missing in that picture.
I haven't been on here in a while but I wanted to thrown my two cents into this little debate. I downloaded the wallpaper off of AutoBlog of the NASCAR test car and examined it about as close as I could on a 32" HD screen and thought I'd try my best to show some of the body ques I could find by taking it into MS Paint and highlighting them in Red and Green. Here's what all I came out with
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It looks like a Caprice to me. Does that mean we'll have a Carpice SS?
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I haven't been on here in a while but I wanted to thrown my two cents into this little debate. I downloaded the wallpaper off of AutoBlog of the NASCAR test car and examined it about as close as I could on a 32" HD screen and thought I'd try my best to show some of the body ques I could find by taking it into MS Paint and highlighting them in Red and Green. Here's what all I came out with
That's an awesome job on your part. I'm gonna add some stuff on paint and see if we can get some idea of what it'll look like.
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Alright here's what I came up with using Camaro Lives Ons work.
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I'm excited for GM to be stepping back into the V8, RWD ring!
Stepping back in? There have been GM sedans with RWD sedans since the 96 Impala. Just remember that Cadillac is also part of GM.
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Old 05-20-2012, 05:15 PM   #84
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It will be the Holden Commodore V8. Holden is GM's Australian logo. It will basically be a Pontiac G8 which was based on the Commodore. Check out my albums to see more.
The new Chevy SS sedan will be based on the VF, not the VE. The VE is what the Commodore/G8 was based on. The VF is a new body style that no one has seen yet except for some heavily camo'd test mules.
The car in the picture you attached is a HSV GTS E3. It came out almost a year and a half after the G8 ceased production and included quite a bit of technology not offered in the G8: Magnetic Ride Control and iQ to name two.
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