2013 Mustang GT500 MEGA THREAD - Page 37

2ndCamaro79 · 05-18-2012, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BATMAN!

Who gives a flying f about a stupid ass ring NONE of you lady's will ever see so shut it already. Really no one gives a rats ass.

The rest of the world maybe? Hey, I am not that big into race track driving, but its where all performance cars are heading. You Ford guys seemed to be pretty happy with the Boss 302 its a track car?

JimmyDeanSausage · 05-18-2012, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 2ndCamaro79

I would loose in a Aventador on a track :( . But hey you have the best of both worlds you will have the track king (ZL1) and a good 1/4 mile car the (the Shelby) its a win win.

What happens if the Shelby beats the ZL1 on a "track" in a head to head test? Then what do you have?

How can a car that isn't legal for any serious/real racing league, with weight issues (bad for brakes), and a PD blower (bad for heat soak) be proclaimed the track king, before a race has even been run?

Anyone that is serious about actually racing on a road course is either going to wait for the next gen of each, buy a Boss, or buy none of the above. The ZL1 is probably great if you want to goof around at HDPEs once in a while, neither it nor the GT500 is a good choice if you actually want to RACE.

FNBADAZ06 · 05-18-2012, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by KennyC

It's a fact the track is less then stellar. Ask anyone who runs there, even during events let alone a couple street cars testing. And the weather isn't terrible, but it ain't the conditions these mags like to produce the best times possible. I'm sure they would rather be at Atco in November. Lol.

Agreed...we're not talking-DA days at MIR or ATCO.

motorhead · 05-18-2012, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by JimmyDeanSausage

What happens if the Shelby beats the ZL1 on a "track" in a head to head test? Then what do you have?

How can a car that isn't legal for any serious/real racing league, with weight issues (bad for brakes), and a PD blower (bad for heat soak) be proclaimed the track king, before a race has even been run?

Anyone that is serious about actually racing on a road course is either going to wait for the next gen of each, buy a Boss, or buy none of the above. The ZL1 is probably great if you want to goof around at HDPEs once in a while, neither it nor the GT500 is a good choice if you actually want to RACE.

When I was "serious" as you put it, I had a real race car. Goofing around is all any of us are really doing in factory cars.

Black GT · 05-18-2012, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by FNBADAZ06

Just interested.......what is wrong with the track and weather ?
Local weather shows 71 degrees, 54% humidity, and a dew point of 54 degrees.

drag times is showing a DA of 1816 for 0955 and rising from there.

BATMAN! · 05-18-2012, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 2ndCamaro79

The rest of the world maybe? Hey, I am not that big into race track driving, but its where all performance cars are heading. You Ford guys seemed to be pretty happy with the Boss 302 its a track car?

I'm not a Ford only guy there are and have been a few different brands in my stable. And yes many are happy with the Boss but I don't see them treating it like its unbeatable unlike the Z crowd.

93TealCobra · 05-18-2012, 12:22 PM

Everyone over here should understand that the '13 GT500 is an 11.6 @ 124 car. This is the first time its been publicly tested and its already trapping at 121-123, uncorrected. It's going to get even quicker.

ffrcobra_65 · 05-18-2012, 12:23 PM

It's all good. I have much respect for the new GT500, MUCH respect, and I am glad to see the writings I wrote on the C5 wall months ago are being proven right. Time for some of us here to face it. Having said that, I am not changing my mind about getting a 2013 ZL1 even if it is a boitch to the GT500.

2ndCamaro79 · 05-18-2012, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 93TealCobra

Everyone over here should understand that the '13 GT500 is an 11.6 @ 124 car. This is the first time its been publicly tested and its already trapping at 121-123, uncorrected. It's going to get even quicker.

Evan Smith a Pro Driver just finished driving the car and the best he ran was 11.89 @ 123. Its faster than the ZL1, but there its nothing ground breaking. The ZL1 and Shelby are both crazy high powered cars, and the closest most of us will get to a true American exotic like the Viper or ZR1.

2ndCamaro79 · 05-18-2012, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ffrcobra_65

It's all good. I have much respect for the new GT500, MUCH respect, and I am glad to see the writings I wrote on the C5 wall months ago are being proven right. Time for some of us here to face it. Having said that, I am not changing my mind about getting a 2013 ZL1 even if it is a boitch to the GT500.

Just hope you don't run the 12.2 like Evan Smith did with the Shelby (his first run), and the guy beside you runs the 11.9 like the GM guys did

FNBADAZ06 · 05-18-2012, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Black GT

drag times is showing a DA of 1816 for 0955 and rising from there.

Not bad. If I could run in 1800 DA's at this time of year I'd be all over it

Oh, and FYI.....this IS that Evan Smith guy who is driving the car, so apparently these times should be consistent with an experienced driver at the wheel and not some amature.

BigHemiSrt · 05-18-2012, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 2ndCamaro79

Evan Smith a Pro Driver just finished driving the car and the best he ran was 11.89 @ 123. Its faster than the ZL1, but there its nothing ground breaking. The ZL1 and Shelby are both crazy high powered cars, and the closest most of us will get to a true American exotic like the Viper or ZR1.

Lowdown and a ZL1 had sex and this guy popped out...

BigHemiSrt · 05-18-2012, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 2ndCamaro79

Just hope you don't run the 12.2 like Evan Smith did with the Shelby (his first run), and the guy beside you runs the 11.9 like the GM guys did

ZL1 has been out for a while now. Show me one BONE STOCK ZL1 that has ran a 11.9 like the GM guys. Better yet show me the 11.9 pass the GM guys made...

97SS · 05-18-2012, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 2ndCamaro79

The ZL1 was being run on a dusty, cold track in AZ in the middle of the winter. the Shelby is being run at a prepped drag strip down south in the spring. When GM ran the ZL1 at a drag track (without a pro driver) they got a non corrected 11.9 run. The Shelby is clearly faster in the 1/4 mile, but not that much better, and I am not even going to go into the fact Ford did not release its Ring times.

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Originally Posted by BigHemiSrt

ZL1 has been out for a while now. Show me one BONE STOCK ZL1 that has ran a 11.9 like the GM guys. Better yet show me the 11.9 pass the GM guys made...

My best friend Chris Jacobson and I, were there for Chevys behind the scenes at the drag strip. The 11.9x times the engineers got, we're both on fresh Nitto Drag radials, which we both do not know why they did not mention this at the end of there video. Yes, they were stock, but with Nitto DR's. The best times they were seeing on street tires, was mid-12's.

View Poll Results: ZL1 or GT500, Which one would you get?
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05-18-2012, 12:22 PM	#511
93TealCobra Banned Drives: 1993 Mustang Cobra Join Date: May 2012 Location: Sweet Tea/Pecan Pie Posts: 29	Everyone over here should understand that the '13 GT500 is an 11.6 @ 124 car. This is the first time its been publicly tested and its already trapping at 121-123, uncorrected. It's going to get even quicker.

05-18-2012, 12:23 PM	#512
ffrcobra_65 Account Suspended Drives: SuperCharged 2SS/RS IOM MN6 Join Date: May 2009 Location: CA Posts: 5,094	It's all good. I have much respect for the new GT500, MUCH respect, and I am glad to see the writings I wrote on the C5 wall months ago are being proven right. Time for some of us here to face it. Having said that, I am not changing my mind about getting a 2013 ZL1 even if it is a boitch to the GT500.