2013 Mustang GT500 MEGA THREAD

[JimmyDeanSausage]

Originally Posted by 8cd03gro

You ignored the corrected et comment... why?

Because he doesn't know what he's talking about and isn't interested in having a legitimate discussion.

[tt335ci03cobra]

I said a lot there but essentially, I wanna see twins on American v8's from the factory because I love all the perks that I've noticed on my car.

Zl1, zr1, gt500, 392 would all be awesome with factory twins... One can dream that the tech trickles down. BMW and Mercedes are using tt v8's so hopefully in 2-5yrs, everybody starts doing so.

[tt335ci03cobra]

Cars launch considerably easy up hear compared to what I've seen on YouTube/when in California.

A z06 up here literally bogs unless you launch at high rpms. My buddy can launch his cammed z around 4500 if he slips the clutch and doesn't mash it to hell.

[tt335ci03cobra]

Originally Posted by cbass

Sure. But you can change the final ratio on a ss to make the gearing shorter. If the factory made the gearing shorter on the SS, then it would have been faster with the LS3.

That insideline dyno is off in the woods. The coyote is a great performing motor, but those are the highest results I have seen for a stock coyote.

It's not the peak torque that I am looking at. It's the entire powerband.

Ya I was saying 50lb/ft at low rpms, peak to peak it's like 25lbft but down low it's easily 50. I was saying the gears on the mustang gt are a bit short in 1st to get it rolling easy.

I don't know how helpful it would be to drop a short rear gear in the ss because unless your on drag radials or a careful driver, it'd probably be counter productive.


I hated my 03 cobra with 4.10's because I would spin or run out of gear. 1st and most of 2nd were useless unless I ran drag radials back when I had 14psi pullies, exhaust, intake and a tune.

Now I run 3.55's on a 28" tire and love it. (25.4" rear tire height before) but I've swapped from the 4.6 to a 5.4 and picked up about 80lb/ft of torque from idle on up

[Rockey33]

I know how you feel only I had just bought a new 2010 Mustang. I had the car the same amount of time as you do when I wanted a Camaro. I kept my Mustang for almost 2 years before I traded it in. I have no regrets now. Both cars are awesome to drive! You have to do what will make you happy.

[lil_chef]

Originally Posted by ffrcobra_65

Lowdown will have you going in circles, I promise.

if not circles he ignores the truth

[LOWDOWN]

Originally Posted by JimmyDeanSausage

So Inde isn't at 4400' elevation, or having a DA of 5000'+ doesn't make a high HP car easier to launch? Is that your assertion?

My assertion is, "by a few % points" (I think someone mentioned 1.02g vs. .98g, which = 4% - HIS figures), a 4% "correction" of a 12.3 e.t. = an 11.8...

My assertion is, if you launch anything beyond a tricycle on a gritty surface, it will NOT return a maximum effort...or minimum time. If YOU think it will, then please launch your soon-to-be-shipped GT500 under said circumstances and share your "maximum effort" with us...

Forget altitude/DA/corrections/real world...if a surface is "dusty" you're not likely to set a World's Record...and CandD, for all its many contributions to the automotive lexicon AND racing endeavors, has NEVER set an drag racing record in anything. At any time. Fact.

[LOWDOWN]

All the folks concerned with how easy it is to launch a car in less-dense air answer me this: If it's soooo much easier to do that, in reality, why are there so darned few records set at the National event @ Bandimere? Hell, by your reasoning, that place should be better than Lions in Long Beach EVER was...

But sprinkle it with "dust" first...that'll make it even EASIER!!

[LOWDOWN]

I think the "next step" for Mustang should be a Coyote'd 5.8...naturally aspirated...500+ hp...in a 3600 lb. BOSS LS chassis...with GT500 brakes...

[cbass]

Originally Posted by LOWDOWN

I think the "next step" for Mustang should be a Coyote'd 5.8...naturally aspirated...500+ hp...in a 3600 lb. BOSS LS chassis...with GT500 brakes...

I am hearing 500 hp for the next mustang generation. We'll see.

[evolve]

Yep. Ive seen a few run low 11s on just a tire. ^^

[Fenderaddict2]

Originally Posted by ParisTNDude

I'm sure the "ring" is not the only track available to test suspension sytems, but nothing you've said would invalidate the Nurburgring track lap records. I have trouble believing there's a major conspiracy to give fans false information. At any rate, the GT500 and the Camaro ZL1 are both, not just good, but great world class performance cars and we should all be glad that both of them are American.

Never claimed a conspiracy. Just saying testing on the Ring, while valid, took on mystical status thanks to the Internet that makes it seem more important to development than it actually is. You want to see high performance cars you need a good Ring time. You want a great or balanced performing car, you do most of the development elsewhere. A slower Ring time does not prove a car to be inferior in any way or anywhere else other than the Ring.

[Deki]

Originally Posted by Fenderaddict2

Never claimed a conspiracy. Just saying testing on the Ring, while valid, took on mystical status thanks to the Internet that makes it seem more important to development than it actually is. You want to see high performance cars you need a good Ring time. You want a great or balanced performing car, you do most of the development elsewhere. A slower Ring time does not prove a car to be inferior in any way or anywhere else other than the Ring.

I agree. Unless they run a car the way it comes out of the factory on the Ring, the times are even more pointless. Once you cage a car, it does wonder for rigidity of the chassis. Not only that, different days, different drivers, different conditions, with 140+ turns, times are so inconsistent between cars, it's hard to make a comparison. Even if the new GT500 runs a 7:30, would that necessarily make it a faster car than the ZL1 around a road course? Unless they did that time with traffic on the track, no.

[VADER SS L99]

Originally Posted by SRT8Tech

Here is one.

I'm pretty sure thats the record holder for a stock weight, bone stock GT500 on a tire so dont let this fool anyone that they are all doing it with "Here is one". I think but could be wrong that the closest one to this guy is at 11.3 and after him its mid 11's. I do believe full bolt on GT's are getting to the low 11's same as stock GT500 with a tire.