2013 Mustang GT500 MEGA THREAD - Page 10

ffrcobra_65 · 05-09-2012, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by LOWDOWN

Not so much "if" as "when"...and release the results? It's a very long way to travel, just to play in the rain...

"when" is right. I guess, I should have said "if" they will release their lap time "when" they complete their balls-out run. My guess, no if the time is higher than the ZL1's and yes if better.

Apex Motorsports · 05-09-2012, 04:59 PM

There are rumors floating around of unofficial 7:35 and 7:30 runs and they are still shooting for more. They want to embarrass the ZL1.

8cd03gro · 05-09-2012, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by LOWDOWN

...and the excuses begin...

I enjoyed watching it yesterday...and you'll notice not all the video was shot in the "wet", so it's obviously a "compilation", edited/aided/abetted...

That's not necessarily true. The 'ring is more than big enough to have some portions of the track wet while others are dry.

ffrcobra_65 · 05-09-2012, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Apex Chase

There are rumors floating around of unofficial 7:35 and 7:30 runs and they are still shooting for more. They want to embarrass the ZL1.

That was the rumor last year. Awesome if proven true. We'll see. Who was it that challenged Ford last winter to a race in the ring? I'd be a little worried now that weather is clearing up and Ford is back there testing.

Rangore · 05-09-2012, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Apex Chase

There are rumors floating around of unofficial 7:35 and 7:30 runs and they are still shooting for more. They want to embarrass the ZL1.

I'm sure they are gonna come out guns blazing. It's just sad that Ford didn't do these sort of performance things with the Mustang until the 5th Gen came out. Before the Camaro came out again Mustang was pretty piss poor.

This will be interesting.

72MachOne99GT · 05-09-2012, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Rangore

I'm sure they are gonna come out guns blazing. It's just sad that Ford didn't do these sort of performance things with the Mustang until the 5th Gen came out. Before the Camaro came out again Mustang was pretty piss poor.

This will be interesting.

Eh, I wouldn't go as far as to say it sucked, but it did stay complacent for far too long from '05-'09. And yes, I'm sure the reintroduction of the Camaro got Ford off the couch. (Some people still say that competition doesn't promote better products!)

The '03/'04 Cobras and Mach 1s were both well rounded cars for their time. The Cobra in particular.

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That was the rumor last year. Awesome if proven true. We'll see. Who was it that challenged Ford last winter to a race in the ring? I'd be a little worried now that weather is clearing up and Ford is back there testing.

Eh, I don't think GM is worried at all. They are very confident in their performance, as well as the time posted for their ZL1.

LOWDOWN · 05-09-2012, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 8cd03gro

That's not necessarily true. The 'ring is more than big enough to have some portions of the track wet while others are [bone] dry.

How many different stationary camera shots were utilized? Count 'em...had to be spliced together...at the track, from several different locations...on the road...the "slow-mo" shot just for the camera/fans, just before it passed the behemoth truck...at the garage...

No consistant in-car...

Makes me think this is more of an advertorial for its fans, brought to you by MotorAuthority.

BTW, won't that car be lovely in the damp/rain, as seen near the start when it fishtails with part-throttle? Where's the PTM? Reminds me of the "unprepared" @ VIR, awhile back... These cars are NOT toys, folks.

eolson · 05-09-2012, 08:29 PM

I'm tired of waiting............please just release the car, when are these things actually arriving in dealerships?? Erik

Rangore · 05-09-2012, 08:40 PM

Finally got to see the video. That attack was terrible. Where was the attack?

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8cd03gro · 05-09-2012, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by LOWDOWN

How many different stationary camera shots were utilized? Count 'em...had to be spliced together...at the track, from several different locations...on the road...the "slow-mo" shot just for the camera/fans, just before it passed the behemoth truck...at the garage...

No consistant in-car...

Makes me think this is more of an advertorial for its fans, brought to you by MotorAuthority.

BTW, won't that car be lovely in the damp/rain, as seen near the start when it fishtails with part-throttle? Where's the PTM? Reminds me of the "unprepared" @ VIR, awhile back... These cars are NOT toys, folks.

Obviously it's not one camera flying along at airplane speeds constantly filming, everyone with eyes realizes that. The fact that various cameras were used and portions of the track are dry doesn't mean these clips aren't from the same run/day. What does that even matter anyway? You seem to be reaching for conclusions from a few tiny clips of the car running on the 'ring.

Blue Menace · 05-09-2012, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by LOWDOWN

BTW, won't that car be lovely in the damp/rain, as seen near the start when it fishtails with part-throttle? Where's the PTM? Reminds me of the "unprepared" @ VIR, awhile back... These cars are NOT toys, folks.

Good point. I'm wondering if this new model will as difficult to drive as reports of earlier models. It sounds as though the ZL1 promotes confidence in folks new to cars with this much power. (me, for example). Thoughts?

72MachOne99GT · 05-09-2012, 09:22 PM

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Good point. I'm wondering if this new model will as difficult to drive as reports of earlier models. It sounds as though the ZL1 promotes confidence in folks new to cars with this much power. (me, for example). Thoughts?

I don't care what the car does in the rain, I can guarantee you no matter how much 'confidence, or lack thereof' I have in the '13GT500, I won't be trying to exact maximum performance out of it in the rain.

Really, you're trying to bash the car for everything. Go ahead, it'll be a bitch to drive in the rain.... most RWD powerful cars are..hell,,,,,if I'm stupid enough to be aggressive in my GT I can put it just about anywhere but where I want it to go.

As far as the confidence inspiring power of the ZL1, it's still a car. Cars still get sideways when you drive like a tard (and I'm not suggesting anyone will, I'm just stating that a computer can't make up for mistakes of a certain caliber.)

And actually, I don't recall the '11/'12s being 'difficult to drive.' They're relatively crazy when driven like a mad man, but most magazines praised the GT500 for the HUGE improvements they made. Nowhere near the smoothness of the ZL1 now, but still impressive.

Blue Menace · 05-09-2012, 09:49 PM

Goodness. Can't catch a break. My comment was genuine and innocuous. Why get defensive so quickly? My comment about the difficulty driving 500's comes from what I've heard and read. Not the best way to get info, yes? So, educate me!

72MachOne99GT · 05-09-2012, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Blue Menace

Goodness. Can't catch a break. My comment was genuine and innocuous. Why get defensive so quickly? My comment about the difficulty driving 500's comes from what I've heard and read. Not the best way to get info, yes? So, educate me!

Defensive?

Was simply stating what I'd heard from magazine reviews

The wet comments were not directed at you though. Unless you think comparing high performance driving in the rain is a good way to compare the two cars

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05-09-2012, 08:29 PM	#134
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05-09-2012, 08:40 PM	#135
Rangore Drives: 2012 Camaro 2SS 45th Anniversary Ed Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,220	Finally got to see the video. That attack was terrible. Where was the attack? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ 2012 Camaro 2SS 45th Anniversary Edition - No longer owned: 2010 Camaro 2LT, 1993 Camaro Z-28

05-09-2012, 04:59 PM	#128
Apex Motorsports Drives: 2000 Camaro SS Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Louisville, Ky. Posts: 25,165	There are rumors floating around of unofficial 7:35 and 7:30 runs and they are still shooting for more. They want to embarrass the ZL1.

05-09-2012, 09:49 PM	#139
Blue Menace Drives: 2013 WRX Sedan Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 705	Goodness. Can't catch a break. My comment was genuine and innocuous. Why get defensive so quickly? My comment about the difficulty driving 500's comes from what I've heard and read. Not the best way to get info, yes? So, educate me!