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Old 05-02-2012, 06:03 PM   #85
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So just to clarify, if there is a report of a stolen car in the area, it is common practice to pull over any similar make and model car, drag the driver out, cuff him, and stuff him into the back of the police car before even running the plate to verify it is the right car? Never realized we were guilty until proven innocent. Also didn't realize that police didn't need a reason to detain someone.

Hang on now........ there are some factors that warrant their actions.

And I also disagree with the "not that we have to" apologize part. I'd say the OP is owed a colossal apology. I'm definitely not saying there is a case worthy of going to court over or anything like that, but I'd say a signed letter from a supervisor would be about right.

"I'm sorry sir." There, I covered my brothers

How could it have been worse...and what is funny about that?
Oh, it could have been a lot worse...... and it's a little ribbin'. That's all.
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Old 05-02-2012, 06:06 PM   #86
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So just to clarify, if there is a report of a stolen car in the area, it is common practice to pull over any similar make and model car, drag the driver out, cuff him, and stuff him into the back of the police car before even running the plate to verify it is the right car? Never realized we were guilty until proven innocent. Also didn't realize that police didn't need a reason to detain someone.

And I also disagree with the "not that we have to" apologize part. I'd say the OP is owed a colossal apology. I'm definitely not saying there is a case worthy of going to court over or anything like that, but I'd say a signed letter from a supervisor would be about right.



How could it have been worse...and what is funny about that?
Pulling over a car and driver that fits the description of a suspect is the officers job. In that sense the officer had good reason to make the stop and perform an initial investigation. The cuffing and stuffing is subjective by situation and the officers evaluation. It is going to be subjective and inherently unfair.

Stop a suspected stolen car with guys looking and acting a part like this



or like this



and the actions of the officer will be different. It is called self preservation. It may not be fair, but as Norm said the #1 goal of a police officer is to go home safely and the end of the shift. When they feel they are at risk they have no choice but to protect themselves. That judgement will always be clouded by countless biases and personal experience.

Does the officer owe the people stopped an apology? I am sure most people would appreciate that courtesy, but the officer has done nothing wrong to apologize for. I won't speak for the OP, but instead will ask him if he feels he is owed an apology.

Could it have been worse? Yep. The stop could have gone tragically wrong. Laughing about it is dark humor, but not so dark when we are talking about TRAN, or Chris or GTAHVIT or the people that buy Brand-X suspension parts

Just like George Bush when I was young and foolish I acted that way. Just like Rocky my criminal record was nothing to brag about. Getting cuffed and printed is not a good experience. That said, the police treated me well. Years later when I was a bit older a younger friend was arrested and put in a holding cell for a minor altercation in a bar. He called me to post his bail. The desk Sargent walked me to his cell. I asked if he won the fight. He said no. I said enjoy your night in jail. I ordered a couple of pizzas and relaxed with the officers staffing the desks. 90 minutes or so later I posted his bail. I never apologized
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Old 05-02-2012, 06:18 PM   #87
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wow.. so a cop can just walk over to me in my yard while I'm minding my own business, put cuffs on me and hold me for 48 hours?
Like this? No they can't.

An officer has to have reasonable doubt. Now if you want to change this to say, someone matching your description committed a crime close by and an officer saw you standing in your yard, then yes he could cause you may be the suspect.
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Old 05-02-2012, 06:36 PM   #88
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You handeled it all VERY well!! I'm impressed. My temper might have gotten the better of me, but they were doing their job and you di just what you should have.
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Old 05-02-2012, 06:49 PM   #89
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Lmfao that's epic.
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Old 05-02-2012, 06:56 PM   #90
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You handeled it all VERY well!! I'm impressed. My temper might have gotten the better of me, but they were doing their job and you di just what you should have.
Thanks!



To everyone who is trying to find fault with the officers.

Please stop. I wasn't mistreated. I wasn't harrased. I wasn't roughed up.

It was obvious that this crime had just happened and the officers did not have all the information.

So instead of letting a possible criminal get away they detained me just in case. Sure. I'd have liked a more sincere apology. But they don't owe me anything. They did their job. And I decided to make this particular stop as painless for them as possible.

And no Mike. I didn't cry.


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Old 05-02-2012, 06:58 PM   #91
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Old 05-02-2012, 07:19 PM   #92
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Thanks for the LOL's ... Maybe you and Randy can do a Dean Martin Jerry Lewis skit at CF3
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Old 05-02-2012, 07:39 PM   #93
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To those wanting to blame the officers: what if Chris ha.d stolen YOUR Camaro...wouldn't you wish him to be cuffed and stuffed? I would think so!
Truthfully, in the world these cops work in, it is better safe (suspect in cuffs) then dead.
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Old 05-02-2012, 07:42 PM   #94
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Great start for the day man.
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Old 05-02-2012, 07:43 PM   #95
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Like this? No they can't.

An officer has to have reasonable doubt. Now if you want to change this to say, someone matching your description committed a crime close by and an officer saw you standing in your yard, then yes he could cause you may be the suspect.

I think you mean probable cause.
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Old 05-02-2012, 07:52 PM   #96
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And no Mike. I didn't cry.


Mlee made his ZL1 sales person poop on the test drive. He said he may have made himself poop. During your wake up after working really late the night before Epic Start of the Day Event include any....
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Old 05-02-2012, 07:55 PM   #97
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Damn Chris, sorry that happened to you.... nobody's perfect

at least they didn't take you down felony style with a ton of guns pointed at you....

I have been there when we've taken down the wrong person....its pretty embarrassing....I'm sure thats why the female officer didn't really want to look at you when she told you that you were free to go...

I think my fellow Camaro5 bretheren need to re-enact this at CamaroFest! if we can't get video
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Old 05-02-2012, 07:56 PM   #98
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So you didnt ask the Police Officer for her number, so she could go out with you so she could "make up" for the misunderstanding?
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