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Old 03-22-2012, 12:39 PM   #29
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That will be a whole different car.
I like the sound of that.
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Old 03-22-2012, 06:11 PM   #30
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I like the sound of that.
I'd like that sound even better if the 'different car' bore a striking resemblance to the one in my sig
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Old 03-23-2012, 10:12 AM   #31
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Maybe an eAssist Impala...
What exactly is Eassist?
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Old 03-23-2012, 10:15 AM   #32
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What exactly is Eassist?
Mild hybrid/light electrification system. Provides electrical assist to the ICE so it doesn't have to work as hard and in turn increases fuel economy.
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Old 03-23-2012, 10:43 AM   #33
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This is one much needed new Impala! I can't wait to see it!
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Old 03-23-2012, 03:01 PM   #34
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The Impala needs some muscles to compete against Dodge's Chargers.
I think the Impala's main competition will be the Ford Taurus. It'd be nice if they added a SHO-fighter as well.
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Old 03-23-2012, 10:58 PM   #35
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Mild hybrid/light electrification system. Provides electrical assist to the ICE so it doesn't have to work as hard and in turn increases fuel economy.
I'm sorry but that's lame. Build a real hybrid.
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Old 03-23-2012, 11:28 PM   #36
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I'm sorry but that's lame. Build a real hybrid.
GM seems to be done with hybrids...notice how they take care to avoid any use of the word "hybrid." It doesn't appear anywhere on the Malibu, Regal, or LaCrosse.

When you're building something as technologically advanced as the Volt and have a full EV on the way next year, building a traditional hybrid can look like a step backwards. The only reason eAssist exists is because it's a cheap, easy, plug-and-play way to increase FE in vehicles. It also appears to be woefully underrated...there are reports of Malibu Ecos hitting 44 MPG @ 70 MPH when the EPA rates it at 37 MPG highway.

There might still be hybrid trucks in the pipeline simply because GM can still make money off of those (a new Four-Mode system is rumored to replace the Two-Mode). As for cars, I don't see GM doing much in terms of full hybrids anymore. It's pretty much old tech, I'm not even sure the new system can be adapted to cars.
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Old 03-24-2012, 12:37 AM   #37
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That will be a whole different car.
Would that be the car based off the Holden Commodore?
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Old 03-24-2012, 12:45 AM   #38
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GM seems to be done with hybrids...notice how they take care to avoid any use of the word "hybrid." It doesn't appear anywhere on the Malibu, Regal, or LaCrosse.

When you're building something as technologically advanced as the Volt and have a full EV on the way next year, building a traditional hybrid can look like a step backwards. The only reason eAssist exists is because it's a cheap, easy, plug-and-play way to increase FE in vehicles. It also appears to be woefully underrated...there are reports of Malibu Ecos hitting 44 MPG @ 70 MPH when the EPA rates it at 37 MPG highway.

There might still be hybrid trucks in the pipeline simply because GM can still make money off of those (a new Four-Mode system is rumored to replace the Two-Mode). As for cars, I don't see GM doing much in terms of full hybrids anymore. It's pretty much old tech, I'm not even sure the new system can be adapted to cars.
I've always thought the GM mild hybrid/e-Assist systems made more sense than full hybrids. I've always figured it offers 50% of the efficiency benefit at only 20% of the cost.

The car I'm really interested in seeing numbers on is the diesel Cruze. If they can get 42 MPG ratings from a gas, what does that mean for the diesel? And when does that come out, by the way?
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Old 03-24-2012, 08:44 AM   #39
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I've always thought the GM mild hybrid/e-Assist systems made more sense than full hybrids. I've always figured it offers 50% of the efficiency benefit at only 20% of the cost.

The car I'm really interested in seeing numbers on is the diesel Cruze. If they can get 42 MPG ratings from a gas, what does that mean for the diesel? And when does that come out, by the way?
You do realize a new Camry hybrid starts at $100 CHEAPER than a 13 malibu Eco, is rated for better MPG, and hits 60 MPH 1.5 seconds sooner. Another point of interest, Car and Driver tested an EAssist regal and it only 26 MPG average, given the base 4 cylinder only got 24, the bigger though is that they got 27 MPG from the turbo. I am sorry, but using Eassist in lieu of a full hybrid system is a joke.
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I've always thought the GM mild hybrid/e-Assist systems made more sense than full hybrids. I've always figured it offers 50% of the efficiency benefit at only 20% of the cost.

The car I'm really interested in seeing numbers on is the diesel Cruze. If they can get 42 MPG ratings from a gas, what does that mean for the diesel? And when does that come out, by the way?
Should launch sometime next year.
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Old 03-24-2012, 09:12 AM   #41
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Would that be the car based off the Holden Commodore?
Maybe.
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GM seems to be done with hybrids...notice how they take care to avoid any use of the word "hybrid." It doesn't appear anywhere on the Malibu, Regal, or LaCrosse.

When you're building something as technologically advanced as the Volt and have a full EV on the way next year, building a traditional hybrid can look like a step backwards. The only reason eAssist exists is because it's a cheap, easy, plug-and-play way to increase FE in vehicles. It also appears to be woefully underrated...there are reports of Malibu Ecos hitting 44 MPG @ 70 MPH when the EPA rates it at 37 MPG highway.

There might still be hybrid trucks in the pipeline simply because GM can still make money off of those (a new Four-Mode system is rumored to replace the Two-Mode). As for cars, I don't see GM doing much in terms of full hybrids anymore. It's pretty much old tech, I'm not even sure the new system can be adapted to cars.
Well I think that is a mistake. EV cars are great but are very limited in how far they can go before needing a charge. Hybrids are still the best alternative right now especially since they have gotten much cheaper now.
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