I need some help from some of you research hounds....

[Hylton]

I am looking for someone who can point to a clause in any State and Federal franchise law which states "an automotive company cannot build sold allocated orders before un-sold allocated orders".

I need the clause number and as worded exactly.

Thanks for your help folks...

[camaroincarolina]

I think it's the difference between a franchise and a dealership....maybe not, but I think every GM dealership is associated with GM, but is their own business and not subject to what you are thinking. Not saying they shouldn't be liable. I'm as pissed as anybody else since I ordered on 10/16 and still in production.......What a crock of BS......I don't know how to start a thread, but can we start one asking how many of us ordered in October and had their car actually delivered? I see BUMBLBEE on here ordered in March and already has his....

[3 SS's]

Originally Posted by Hylton

I am looking for someone who can point to a clause in any State and Federal franchise law which states "an automotive company cannot build sold allocated orders before un-sold allocated orders".

I need the clause number and as worded exactly.

Thanks for your help folks...

Where's a lawyer when you need one!!

[Hylton]

Originally Posted by 3 SS's

Where's a lawyer when you need one!!

Not really - everything should be online somehwere.

[Brokinarrow]

Yeah, I dunno about you, but if I try to read legal documents my head threatens to explode...

[Sierra]

Read FBodfathers post.

[rolnslo]

Hylton...I believe the issue isn't about building sold vs. unsold orders. It really has to do with the allocation process. Dealers control which orders go into the system when, based on their available allocations to be built per week, not GM. It is all about how the dealers use their allocation with regards to selling them as sold orders vs. using them for dealer stock. For example, look at Classic Chevy in Grapevine, TX. They had something like 65 cars available in their initial allocation and then proceeded to "sell" well over 100 pre-orders. Everyone of those outside of the initial allocation have quite a long wait before they'll see their cars. GM can't magically push all the sold orders for Classic to the top of the queue and take away building non-sold orders from dealers that wanted to use their allocation for lot cars.

You might find this link interesting (for Michigan at least):

http://law.onecle.com/michigan/445-t...-445-1574.html

[MontyCarlo]

Are you sure about that wording Hylton? That would mean companies are required to build unsold orders before sold orders.

[rolnslo]

Massachusetts: http://www.mass.gov/legis/laws/mgl/93b-4.htm

[rolnslo]

Alabama: http://www.legislature.state.al.us/c...975/8-20-4.htm

[rolnslo]

I could go on and find more but they all seem to say the same thing that Scott is saying. GM can't alter the allocation process to build out sold orders for one dealer ahead of retail stock orders for another.

It sucks, I know, but complain to your local representative instead of to GM.

[UCF w00t]

I hope the lawsuits have been drafted in regards to Moreno Valley/Avis getting preferential treatment....

[rolnslo]

Originally Posted by UCF w00t

I hope the lawsuits have been drafted in regards to Moreno Valley/Avis getting preferential treatment....

Actually, from the wording I've been reading in those state laws, they all reference "retail" sales. I'm pretty sure that Avis falls under "wholesale" sales. Moreno Valley was just the dumping point.

[Hylton]

Much thanks Rolnslo! I need to educate myself on it. I want to fully understand it.