2013 GT500 going to the Ring in April

[actireman]

I'm told it's gonna happen. They plan on going in April. They feel they can put down a number close to the ZL1. The ZL1 is wider and has more tire, The GT500 is lighter and more HP. I will get a call when it happens. I love it, theres nothing like a good pony war.
The other interesting thing is, they don't think it will be much faster in the Quarter mile on stock tires due to size, and balance of the car. Very interesting.

[motorhead]

I'll be sure to hold off on buying my ZL1 until the numbers on the GT500 come out.
































































































































































































































































NOT!!!!

[YourBlindingBias]

I think the whole "ring" thing is over-rated.
I won't be taking any car to germany to run the ring ever, I can also bet neither will most people on this forum.
I would be more interested in seeing stateside track times because I CAN ACTUALLY GO THERE.

[IOMZL1]

Originally Posted by YourBlindingBias

I think the whole "ring" thing is over-rated.
I won't be taking any car to germany to run the ring ever, I can also bet neither will most people on this forum.
I would be more interested in seeing stateside track times because I CAN ACTUALLY GO THERE.

+1

Yeah, they haven't tested on my route to work so how do I know the car will be any good WHERE I ACTUALLY DRIVE?

[toilets]

Dun dun dun.... I really hope our time holds up

[Frankzl1]

Originally Posted by motorhead

I'll be sure to hold off on buying my ZL1 until the numbers on





NOT!!!!

I was wondering what's up with all the blank space hahahahaha!!! Good one

[PeeBee]

Originally Posted by YourBlindingBias

I think the whole "ring" thing is over-rated.
I won't be taking any car to germany to run the ring ever, I can also bet neither will most people on this forum.
I would be more interested in seeing stateside track times because I CAN ACTUALLY GO THERE.

i.e. Laguna Seca times don't really tell me much either... But it doesn't keep me from getting a good idea whether a car is fast or not, even though I probably won't drive one of my cars there in a lifetime...

[ParisTNDude]

They test all GM cars on the GM test track to determine it's capabilities, faults and defects if any, and none of us will ever get a chance to drive that track. Why is it so difficult to understand that running good times at Nurburgring offer clear endorsement of the car's capabilities. We selll GM cars in Europe and most European motorsports fans will be highly impressed with a car that runs better times than a Porsche 911 on the "ring", as an example. It's a lot like posting 0-60 and 1/4 mile ETs, I suspect 90% of all Camaro owners may never see a 1/4 track, but it's certainly the accepted standard measure of a cars acceleration capabilities. I've run 20 laps or so at Nurburgring in various cars during my prior 13 years living and working in Europe and I know how difficult the track is to drive fast...therefore, I will be deeply impressed by any car that beats the ZL1 and likewise any that fail to match it's time at Nurburgring. I expect the Mustang to run slower times than the Camaro. I'm just curious where the OP got the "inside information" on the GT500s plans to run the ring?

[YourBlindingBias]

Originally Posted by PeeBee

i.e. Laguna Seca times don't really tell me much either... But it doesn't keep me from getting a good idea whether a car is fast or not, even though I probably won't drive one of my cars there in a lifetime...

Well of course I am speaking of stateside being where I am.
I'm just wondering why people are so obsessed over ring times if they don't track their car or won't fly to germany to run on the track it was tested on.

[Shurenuff]

Originally Posted by PeeBee

i.e. Laguna Seca times don't really tell me much either... But it doesn't keep me from getting a good idea whether a car is fast or not, even though I probably won't drive one of my cars there in a lifetime...

I enjoy the ring times, even though I'll likely never get a chance to drive it. That track has become the standard of the performance car world, so why not?

[YourBlindingBias]

Not why not, that's cool they test at the ring.
But people hold it to such high regard that they would ignore stateside track times in favor of ring times. If the ZL1 ran awesome at laguna sec would there be such a celebration and quoting all the time?

[OldScoolCamaro]

Originally Posted by actireman

I'm told it's gonna happen. They plan on going in April. They feel they can put down a number close to the ZL1. The ZL1 is wider and has more tire, The GT500 is lighter and more HP. I will get a call when it happens. I love it, theres nothing like a good pony war.
The other interesting thing is, they don't think it will be much faster in the Quarter mile on stock tires due to size, and balance of the car. Very interesting.

Well, as Pedders Pete related....there is a diminshing return in the increase of horsepower, this will hold true especially for the Mustang. If it does not hook up well in the 550 range, it will be even more hard pressed doing so without taking alot of the motor out of it electronically at 650. Floating rear axle on a 4 link...massive amount of rear suspension work with slicks...aftermarket of course will get the job done for the dragstrip. But they won't be able to make this happen on their factory production vehicle....with street tires. So, all the big three makers...in order to fully use the full BHP on tap, need extensive rear suspension and traction mods to launch the cars at the strip, without using the electronic Nannies to reduce HP and wheel spin...that will void a warranty. So.....we have reached the level of unusable factory produced horsepower? Or, are we no different than back in the glory days of megaton HP big blocks....

[motorhead]

Originally Posted by OldScoolCamaro

So.....we have reached the level of unusable factory produced horsepower? Or, are we no different than back in the glory days of megaton HP big blocks....

I think we sure did for the price point that these cars are aiming at.

[YourBlindingBias]

Originally Posted by OldScoolCamaro

Well, as Pedders Pete related....there is a diminshing return in the increase of horsepower, this will hold true especially for the Mustang. If it does not hook up well in the 550 range, it will be even more hard pressed doing so without taking alot of the motor out of it electronically at 650. Floating rear axle on a 4 link...massive amount of rear suspension work with slicks...aftermarket of course will get the job done for the dragstrip. But they won't be able to make this happen on their factory production vehicle....with street tires. So, all the big three makers...in order to fully use the full BHP on tap, need extensive rear suspension and traction mods to launch the cars at the strip, without using the electronic Nannies to reduce HP and wheel spin...that will void a warranty. So.....we have reached the level of unusable factory produced horsepower? Or, are we no different than back in the glory days of megaton HP big blocks....

ford made improvements on the 2013 suspension, it's not the same as previous models, and you're right at this point it's all IF'S, so I wouldn't say anything for sure because it's all just assumptions or what they call "bench racing".