Chevy Runs Deep

[GMollohan12]

Always get a good laugh out of the Sonic one

[kylenewman]

Weird ford didn't give two shits when our fleet of ford trucks broke down. They advised us to trade them in on the new 6.7s....

2001 f150 103,000 miles entire body rotted through and head gasket blew.
2005 f350 6.0 130,000 miles egr cooler failed with head gasket and took the motor with it.
2007 f450 6.0 81,000 miles bell plate gasket leaking along with front and rear main seals. Injector issues galore which they blamed on using diesel 911 fuel treatment....
2008 f450 6.4 major injector issues which they wouldn't warranty and major issues with the computer. It's needed to be reprogrammed 5 times and we still have issues with it going to limp mode and turbos not working properly. Every time the computer screws up the door locks dont work but they claim it's A fluke not related, it's happened 4 times....

All trucks were serviced as recommended.

[Stew]

Originally Posted by kylenewman

Weird ford didn't give two shits when our fleet of ford trucks broke down. They advised us to trade them in on the new 6.7s....

2001 f150 103,000 miles entire body rotted through and head gasket blew.
2005 f350 6.0 130,000 miles egr cooler failed with head gasket and took the motor with it.
2007 f450 6.0 81,000 miles bell plate gasket leaking along with front and rear main seals. Injector issues galore which they blamed on using diesel 911 fuel treatment....
2008 f450 6.4 major injector issues which they wouldn't warranty and major issues with the computer. It's needed to be reprogrammed 5 times and we still have issues with it going to limp mode and turbos not working properly. Every time the computer screws up the door locks dont work but they claim it's A fluke not related, it's happened 4 times....

All trucks were serviced as recommended.

Sounds like all of said trucks are out of warranty. trust me, GM would be the same way. My brothers CTS with 59k miles leaks, misses, and clunks in the front end, yet because it out of warranty, they do crap. Car was never wrecked or anything either. Masically with any manufactuer, your out of warranty, you are SOL.

[kbui]

The missing driver, Dave, should have been named Jim (Farley) instead ....With all of the "reality" commercials Ford have been running, it's a good thing they didn't spend money during the SB. The "reality" commercials are some of the dumbest ones ever...

[Rocky1974]

Originally Posted by Stew

Sounds like all of said trucks are out of warranty. truvyhest me, GM would be the same way. My brothers CTS with 59k miles leaks, misses, and clunks in the front end, yet because it out of warranty, they do crap. Car was never wrecked or anything either. Masically with any manufactuer, your out of warranty, you are SOL.

Not necessarily. It depends on the Dealer and the Service Manager. GM fixed the transmission in my 99 Chevy truck at 60,000 miles, and it only had a 3yr 36,000 warranty. But, in the context of this thread, I think he's disputing Ford's claim, in their letter, that their truck's are more durable.

[big boss]

THAT'S CHEVY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Stew]

Originally Posted by Rocky1974

Not necessarily. It depends on the Dealer and the Service Manager. GM fixed the transmission in my 99 Chevy truck at 60,000 miles, and it only had a 3yr 36,000 warranty. But, in the context of this thread, I think he's disputing Ford's claim, in their letter, that their truck's are more durable.

Not just the dealer, but he has went through GM customer service, etc, and they will not help. It is his first GM car and probably his last. It's a shame, he likes the car, but the quality is just total crap.

[Hellfighter]

Originally Posted by Rocky1974

Here's a copy of the letter that Ford sent GM. They have no sense of humor at all.

Re: Chevrolet's False and Disparaging Super Bowl Advertisement
Dear Mr. Williams:
It is my understanding that Chevrolet intends to run a commercial during tomorrow's Super Bowl that makes false and misleading claims regarding the durability and safety of the Chevy Silverado and disparages Ford's pickup trucks. I write to demand that you refrain from running this commercial.
The commercial at issue, entitled "Chevy Silverado , features a Chevy Silverado owner driving through the rubble of a post-apocalyptic city as Barry Manilow's "Looks Like We Made It" plays in the background. Upon meeting up with a group of fellow survivors, all of whom are driving Silverados, the driver asks about the whereabouts of his friend "Dave." With great solemnity, one of the survivors reveals that Dave did not survive the apocalypse because: "Dave didn't drive the longest-lasting, most dependable truck on the road... Dave drove a Ford."
Chevrolet's "longest lasting, most dependable" claim is, to the extent it is legitimate, based entirely on longevity (as measured by full-size pickup registrations from 1981 to July 2011). However, the commercial, from its use of "Looks Like We Made It" to its reference to Dave's tragic demise, communicates something very different - that the Silverado is safer and more durable than any Ford pickup truck. These two messages are entirely unsupported. With respect to durability, research from R. L. Polk & Co. shows that Ford has considerably more trucks on the road with over 250,000 miles than does Chevrolet, thereby demonstrating that Ford's trucks are more durable than those manufactured by Chevrolet. As to the issue of safety, the 2012 Ford F-150 is an IIHS Top Safety pick, whereas the 2012 Chevy Silverado is not - having received less than impressive results in the IIHS side impact, rear crash and rollover tests. In light of the foregoing, Chevrolet has no basis to imply that the Silverado is either safer or more durable than Ford's pickup trucks, yet that false claim is precisely what is conveyed to the consumer.
In addition to making false and misleading claims regarding the comparative safety and durability of the Silverado, Chevrolet's commercial also unfairly denigrates Ford's pickup trucks. By specifically calling out Ford in its commercial, Chevrolet creates the disparaging impression that Ford owners are at risk because their pickup trucks are less safe and less durable than Chevrolet's pickups. It is black letter advertising law that "expressly or implicitly disparaging claims can damage a product's market share and, therefore, [] such claims [must be] truthful, accurate and narrowly drawn." See The Procter & Gamble Co. (Swiffer Dusters), NAD Case #4226 (9/14/04). As noted above, Chevrolet's claims are neither truthful nor accurate. Thus, Chevrolet has absolutely no basis to disparagingly imply that, in the event of a catastrophic event, Ford's pickup trucks and their respective owners will be reduced to ashes.
Accordingly, Ford demands that Chevrolet immediately cease and desist from making any unsubstantiated and disparaging claims regarding Ford's pickup trucks. Specifically, Ford insists that Chevrolet (i) refrain from running the commercial during tomorrow's Super Bowl; (ii) refrain from any future use of the commercial; and (iii) permanently remove the commercial from its website, its YouTube and Facebook pages and any other Internet sites. If Chevrolet does not comply with the above terms prior to the start of the Super Bowl, then Ford will take all appropriate steps to enforce and protect its reputation.
This letter is written without prejudice to and will not be deemed a waiver of any of Ford's rights, remedies or defenses, all of which expressly are preserved.
Sincerely,
Lynne M. Matuszak
Counsel

So sad FORD is so serious and butthurt from that.

[SS 376]

I liked that the guy was eating Twinkies at the end. Ford fails to grasp that the more butthurt they get over the commercial, the more attention that brings to the commercial.

By the way, where are our resident Ford trolls??

[Stew]

Didn't GM get all butt hurt over a ford commercial about the bailout? Seems par for the course.

Anywho, one thing I hate about the pickup market, EVERY manufacturer has some study that has been done by some independant company that says they sell the toughest trucks, all of them, so I don't see the big deal. i would love to see a good ad war happen, then I am twisted that way lol.

[Rocky1974]

Originally Posted by Stew

Didn't GM get all butt hurt over a ford commercial about the bailout? Seems par for the course.

I don't think it was GM. I think it was the Obama Adminstration. Of course, I guess you could make a good argument that they are one and the same. I think that they threatened to make a big deal out of the 6 billion that they gave Ford. Ford quietly pulled the ad and denied everything.

[Rocky1974]

Originally Posted by SS 376

I liked that the guy was eating Twinkies at the end. Ford fails to grasp that the more butthurt they get over the commercial, the more attention that brings to the commercial.

I know. If Ford had been smart, they would have played it cool and got Chevy back when they weren't expecting it. All this letter did was let Chevy know that they're hitting them where it hurts. They violated the first rule of competition: "Never let the competition see you sweat" Then again if Ford was smart, they wouldn't be Ford.

[ChevyXtC]

Even Twinkies last longer them Fords!

[SSE 4 2SS]

Do not feed the trolls...