How will Ford Answer This From Chevy?

[GoldenBear]

Originally Posted by tooslow

The 2005 Ford GT embarrassed the 2005 Corvette ...

Seriously? Comparing a $44K vehicle and a $140K vehicle? I believe that makes as much sense as comparing a 1969 Falcon to a 1969 9560 COPO Camaro.

[Stew]

Originally Posted by motorhead

Your comparisons are flawed seeing that the ford GT and the Viper are not currently being built. Plus, the ZR1 is every bit the "supercar" (as you put it) and certainly the Viper too (as it was the king of the American "supercars")as the Ford GT. As far as the topic of this thread, it was never about comparisons of models. It was simply what is Fords answer to the ZR1 and in a later post the CTS-V. Both of which the answer is that currently, they don't have one.

While the ZR1 has supercar abilities, it still looks like just a Vette with a crappy interior and besides the power really has nothing to make you say "oh yeah" look at a Lambo or even the GT, they are their own vehicles, from the exterior to the interior to their mid engine goodness they scream supercar. the ZR1 screams "Supercharged Corvette" The viper screams supercar because it was no frills, rough around the edges and there was no lower model to dilute it.

[DaBears]

The argument is stupid.

[Blue Maro Demon]

Originally Posted by Stew

Dude, really? If Ford WANTED to they could. They are a business though and as a business they are concentrating on their sellers and cars that make them money. i don't blame them. Look at January sales, Ford UP 7%, GM DOWN 6%. Discuss..........

This is the WEAKEST attempt at trying to compare GM to Ford I have seen so what if they were down for one month? Like others said Ford can be down any month as well. What I look at is overall sales of the year and sorry to burst your bubble but GM sold more vehicles overall last year than Ford Motor Company did.

[Blue Maro Demon]

Originally Posted by YourBlindingBias

Though the camaro is beating the mustang in sales since it came back from being discontinued, it's not like the mustang isn't selling look at the numbers.

Unless Ford's design team designs a fresh and more futuristic Mustang that looks mean and appeals to a wider audience then they are done in sales. The Camaro will continue to look mean and have design that is unbelievable. One of the things with the mustang is over the years the character of the car hasnt really looked very intimidating from the factory. The Camaro has always looked like a meaner looking car from the front end. And before someone says the GT500 is all it is is a Mustang with stripes the full length of the car and it looks like it has a smile on its face not very agressive. Then they tried to copy the Camaro giving it the halo head lights. I think its funny how Ford keeps changing the design of the Mustang but still keeps failing in sales.

[Grabber]

Originally Posted by Blue Maro Demon

Unless Ford's design team designs a fresh and more futuristic Mustang that looks mean and appeals to a wider audience then they are done in sales. The Camaro will continue to look mean and have design that is unbelievable. One of the things with the mustang is over the years the character of the car hasnt really looked very intimidating from the factory. The Camaro has always looked like a meaner looking car from the front end. And before someone says the GT500 is all it is is a Mustang with stripes the full length of the car and it looks like it has a smile on its face not very agressive. Then they tried to copy the Camaro giving it the halo head lights. I think its funny how Ford keeps changing the design of the Mustang but still keeps failing in sales.

That is like saying the ZL1 is an over glorified SS with a Blower. It's an LS3 with a Blower, different suspension, very similar/almost identical styling, etc.

At least we can say the GT500 has its OWN UNIQUE power-plant unlike the ZL1 and SS.

I think we get that you obviously love GM. However, is it really necessary to put down other cars? Does that make you feel better about owning the car you own? If so, to each their own.

I don't feel insecure if the Manufacturer of my car is not the highest selling out there. I still have a nice car, that will show a lot of cars its ugly tail lights, and don't need to put down the competition to feel better about owning it. It is what it is.

[Stew]

Originally Posted by Blue Maro Demon

This is the WEAKEST attempt at trying to compare GM to Ford I have seen so what if they were down for one month? Like others said Ford can be down any month as well. What I look at is overall sales of the year and sorry to burst your bubble but GM sold more vehicles overall last year than Ford Motor Company did.

But FOrd made more profit........... Profit equals successful business......... More profit equals more success......... You can keep trying, but GM is not the end all be all, the did have to be bailed out afterall............

[YourBlindingBias]

Originally Posted by Blue Maro Demon

Unless Ford's design team designs a fresh and more futuristic Mustang that looks mean and appeals to a wider audience then they are done in sales. The Camaro will continue to look mean and have design that is unbelievable. One of the things with the mustang is over the years the character of the car hasnt really looked very intimidating from the factory. The Camaro has always looked like a meaner looking car from the front end. And before someone says the GT500 is all it is is a Mustang with stripes the full length of the car and it looks like it has a smile on its face not very agressive. Then they tried to copy the Camaro giving it the halo head lights. I think its funny how Ford keeps changing the design of the Mustang but still keeps failing in sales.

What do you mean done in sales? lol you act like they have sold 0 mustangs, can you look at the numbers? ford is still moving mustangs.
and ummm ford is more profitable than GM at the moment, you didn't do much research on this have you? You also know that GM is a much larger company than ford right? and you do know their company failed right? or is that something you want to ignore?

[Grabber]

Ford did take some bailout money, but nowhere near the amount as GM and AIG needed.

However, Ford was smart, and got bank loans before shit hit the fan.

If I opened a business, and a friend opened a competing business, and say I sold 1,000,000 bottles of beer at $4.50 and he sold 700,000 bottles at $7.00, who made more overall profit?

Sure, I outsold him by 30%, but he made more money than I did and he sold less which still gives him room to make a lot more in the long run.

[ffrcobra_65]

Guys, why doubt BMD's posts? He has a strong acumen in "banking". Read all his crystal ball readings (I mean postings) and there is no doubt, he knows what he is talking about.

[The IOM Ninja]

Originally Posted by Blue Maro Demon

Unless Ford's design team designs a fresh and more futuristic Mustang that looks mean and appeals to a wider audience then they are done in sales. The Camaro will continue to look mean and have design that is unbelievable. One of the things with the mustang is over the years the character of the car hasnt really looked very intimidating from the factory. The Camaro has always looked like a meaner looking car from the front end. And before someone says the GT500 is all it is is a Mustang with stripes the full length of the car and it looks like it has a smile on its face not very agressive. Then they tried to copy the Camaro giving it the halo head lights. I think its funny how Ford keeps changing the design of the Mustang but still keeps failing in sales.

WTF are you talking about, Halo headlights? When did Ford ever show a Mustang with halo headlights? You are so ignorant! I bet BMW drivers aren't all up in arms about the Camaro stealing tgeir cars signature head lamps.

So the Camaro out sells the Mustang for 2 or so years and it's automatically the best car in the world? You seem to forget that Tge 4th gen Camaro sold so poorly that they had to completely discontinue the entire model, or that the Mustang sold better than the Camaro from the time it was introduced until the time the 5th gen was introduced.

[Grabber]

I personally think this car looks very mean.

[Grabber]

^ I don't see how that looks like a girlie car, that doesn't look like anything.

[Stew]

Originally Posted by Blue Maro Demon

Unless Ford's design team designs a fresh and more futuristic Mustang that looks mean and appeals to a wider audience then they are done in sales. The Camaro will continue to look mean and have design that is unbelievable. One of the things with the mustang is over the years the character of the car hasnt really looked very intimidating from the factory. The Camaro has always looked like a meaner looking car from the front end. And before someone says the GT500 is all it is is a Mustang with stripes the full length of the car and it looks like it has a smile on its face not very agressive. Then they tried to copy the Camaro giving it the halo head lights. I think its funny how Ford keeps changing the design of the Mustang but still keeps failing in sales.

Dude, seriously? You realize Ford will redesign the Mustang around the time the next Camaro comes out, right? And Mustang Failing? ROFL! TO be selling as close as it is, on an older platform to the Camaro, who had 8 years of built up interest and is a new fangled design it is doing great. lets see what happens when an all new Mustang hits around the same time as the all new Camaro LOL