How will Ford Answer This From Chevy?

[Sax1031]

They were pretty successful at the the 24 Hours of Lemans, at least until the wonderful people across the pond basically banned the car from competition.

[The IOM Ninja]

Originally Posted by motorhead

So what two seater sports car from the 60's did Ford build that was so great?


If your talking about a Cobra, they weren't build by ford. The weren't even built in the USA. The funny thing is Carol Shelby tried to get Chevy motors first ,but they wouldn't sell them to him.

Ford later on helped to redesign them ,but they still weren't built by Ford.



Besides that has nothing to do with the topic of this thread.

Technically the GT40, but that wasn't a production car, so I guess regardless of the fact that it destroyed Ferrari's it doesn't count.

[tooslow]

Originally Posted by 8cd03gro

I was more responding to Blue Maro Demon and his infinitely wise post with the remark about ford not being able to build a competitor. They absolutely could and it's still possible they will. However, Ford has been and still is globalizing their cars, cutting unnecessary costs and pumping out profits, so I think it's unlikely we'll see another Ford supercar in the next year or two. I totally get why you started this thread and I love seeing that commercial on TV.

To suggest any of the major auto companies could not build a competitor to GM's Corvette is crazy. It all boils down to whether or not they want to invest the capital to do it and, most importantly, what would the ROI be. If it would not be profitable for them to build it, why would they want to?

The 2005 Ford GT embarrassed the 2005 Corvette and it wasn't until the 2006 model-year with the Z06 that things got close. As it has been pointed out so many times, it's not like one company has engineers that are significantly better than another's. I'd hazard to say many of them have actually worked for many different organizations throughout their careers and knowledge has been cross-pollenated.

[8cd03gro]

Originally Posted by motorhead

So what two seater sports car from the 60's did Ford build that was so great?


If your talking about a Cobra, they weren't build by ford. The weren't even built in the USA. The funny thing is Carol Shelby tried to get Chevy motors first ,but they wouldn't sell them to him.

Ford later on helped to redesign them ,but they still weren't built by Ford.



Besides that has nothing to do with the topic of this thread.

Built from 1964-1969. . . winner of 24 Hours of Le Mans 1966-1969.

Originally Posted by tooslow

To suggest any of the major auto companies could not build a competitor to GM's Corvette is crazy. It all boils down to whether or not they want to invest the capital to do it and, most importantly, what would the ROI be. If it would not be profitable for them to build it, why would they want to?

Exactly. It's not like GM hires their engineers from MIT and everyone else gets theirs straight out of high school.

[Black5thgen]

ZR1 FTW

[motorhead]

Originally Posted by 8cd03gro

Built from 1964-1969. . . winner of 24 Hours of Le Mans 1966-1969.

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That was a race car. They made an attempt at 7 street cars that were flops. The ones that did make it to the street were mainly the race version cars that people bought and converted for street use.

They became obsolete when the Porsches came to town. Nice cars but race cars just the same.

[ParisTNDude]

Ford has enough money to build anything they want bad enough. Problem is, it would take them a number of years to get anything to the level of performance/reliability of the ZR1, IMO. I see the 24 Hours of Daytona winning Ford engined cars won their first podium finish in 13 years...they did it in style with 1,2,3 finishes. The only thing "Ford" about the GT40 was their engines...everything else was made in England. I'm pretty proud of the fact that they won LeMans and put a whoopin on the Ferraris.

[a_Username]

Originally Posted by motorhead

That was a race car. They made an attempt at 7 street cars that were flops. The ones that did make it to the street were mainly the race version cars that people bought and converted for street use.

They became obsolete when the Porsches came to town. Nice cars but race cars just the same.

Motorhead laying the smackdown!

[buzzy56]

Originally Posted by Stew

Dude, really? If Ford WANTED to they could. They are a business though and as a business they are concentrating on their sellers and cars that make them money. i don't blame them. Look at January sales, Ford UP 7%, GM DOWN 6%. Discuss..........

Sales leaders ,Focus , Fusion , f-150 pic-ups well that is really impressive.

[motorhead]

Originally Posted by Stew

Dude, really? If Ford WANTED to they could. They are a business though and as a business they are concentrating on their sellers and cars that make them money. i don't blame them. Look at January sales, Ford UP 7%, GM DOWN 6%. Discuss..........

This post makes no sense. If they were only worried about their cars that sell they would have aborted the Mustang soon after the return of the Camaro.
Instead they are throwing HP and trinkets at an obsolete design in the hopes that Chevy doesn't land that final Blow to their beloved horse with the ZL1. The only thread Ford has left to hang onto with the mustang is the GT500 and it's very frayed.

[YourBlindingBias]

Though the camaro is beating the mustang in sales since it came back from being discontinued, it's not like the mustang isn't selling look at the numbers.

[TJ91]

Ford GTs smacked lambos!
This is how comparisons should be made
V6 vs V6
SS vs GT
ZL1 vs GT500
Corvette vs Viper (since ford has no car in this segment)
Ford GT vs something (since chevy doesnt have a super car but I guess you could possibly throw the ZR1 at it)

[motorhead]

Originally Posted by TJ91

Ford GTs smacked lambos!
This is how comparisons should be made
V6 vs V6
SS vs GT
ZL1 vs GT500
Corvette vs Viper (since ford has no car in this segment)
Ford GT vs something (since chevy doesnt have a super car but I guess you could possibly throw the ZR1 at it)

Your comparisons are flawed seeing that the ford GT and the Viper are not currently being built. Plus, the ZR1 is every bit the "supercar" (as you put it) and certainly the Viper too (as it was the king of the American "supercars")as the Ford GT. As far as the topic of this thread, it was never about comparisons of models. It was simply what is Fords answer to the ZR1 and in a later post the CTS-V. Both of which the answer is that currently, they don't have one.

[Stew]

Originally Posted by motorhead

This post makes no sense. If they were only worried about their cars that sell they would have aborted the Mustang soon after the return of the Camaro.
Instead they are throwing HP and trinkets at an obsolete design in the hopes that Chevy doesn't land that final Blow to their beloved horse with the ZL1. The only thread Ford has left to hang onto with the mustang is the GT500 and it's very frayed.

You sir are wrong. They are still selling what, 6000+ mustangs a month? That is still VERY profitable. And it's on a platform which in itself is paid for with the exception of updates, that is additional profit. What he was talking about was a VERY small volume car that MAY sell 1000 a month, hence, not worth the hassle. The Camaro is NOT outselling the Mustang by that much folks and CERTAINLY not enough to make the Mustang unprofitable to to send it to the corral.