There's a Volt on my carport.

[IBM]

Originally Posted by Devryn17

Just sayin, from the front, the Volt looks like the Taurus, looks like the civic, looks like the Corolla...I don't think it's very unique at all.

Well it's shaped for aerodynamics and designed to look like a chevy and stay a little bit true to the concept

[FenwickHockey65]

Originally Posted by TJ91

so whats the range your getting just off electricity?

On a side note, everytime I see this car, I think of how much of a failure it is.

Why you ask?!

Well Bob Lutz came out with a thousands promises with the Volt, hit hurdles with each statement. Car was never meant to be a hybrid, now GM uses their failure (hybrid vs full electric) as an excuse by comparing it other full electric cars and saying "well now you have a gas option just incase you run out of juice, not like the other competition"
I think thats sad, compare it to other hybrids, dont shoot other FULL electric cars range.
Anyways the design is great, sure its a hybri, thats great, just hate the false advertising.

Other hybrids don't do 40 miles on electricity alone. I don't know where you've been the last few years, but the Volt ALWAYS had a gasoline generator on board for extended range, even in its conceptual stages.

[upflying]

Originally Posted by Devryn17

It's the raw materials in the batteries that cost money...And I don't know if you've noticed, raw materials aren't coming down in price...

So the Volt is simply a Cruze with a $20,000 battery?
Sorry, GM only sold 8,000 Volts so far. They aren't selling because they cost too much. Volt is the right idea at the wrong time. Buy a 40 mpg Cruze as a half price Volt. You would own a Volt for 15 years before you would be money ahead of a Cruze. If I had $45k to spend on a new car, it wouldn't be a Volt.

[djinva]

The car is impressive. I have driven it about 300 miles so far and charged it at night. I am averaging 52 mpg. It goes 30 miles on the batteries, I live in the mountains and it is cold here and I am running the heat on high and the heated seated and most of my driving has been at night with the lights on. I live out in the country and I am near an interstate. The interstate is 2 miles from home so I always take it. running 75 mph eats the batteries up faster. I think if i kept it below 50 I would have more range. The gas engine is quite and its performance is comparable to other small cars. I have a Fusion company co which spends its entire life shifting gears so it is nice to drive something that is not always searching for the correct gear.

I think for someone who drives 30 miles a day it would be great. It just does not meet my driving style.

It is 10x better looking than a Pirus.

[djinva]

Originally Posted by Captain Awesome

I hope you have a good fire extinguisher.

No worries at all about that, read up on it. That car sat for 3 weeks before it caught fire. If I have an accident I don't plan on being there for 3 weeks. It took GM months to recreate the fire. It is very unfortunate that the media has created this image for the Volt.

[djinva]

Originally Posted by TJ91

so whats the range your getting just off electricity?

On a side note, everytime I see this car, I think of how much of a failure it is.

Why you ask?!

Well Bob Lutz came out with a thousands promises with the Volt, hit hurdles with each statement. Car was never meant to be a hybrid, now GM uses their failure (hybrid vs full electric) as an excuse by comparing it other full electric cars and saying "well now you have a gas option just incase you run out of juice, not like the other competition"
I think thats sad, compare it to other hybrids, dont shoot other FULL electric cars range.
Anyways the design is great, sure its a hybri, thats great, just hate the false advertising.

It is full electric, the gas engine is a generator. With that in mind why compare it to hybrids.

I do not see it as a failure at all. It is a really neat car with a ton of technology. I commend GM for this vehicle as I feel it will evolve into an even better vehicle.

Don't be a hater.

[MS3DALE]

Originally Posted by upflying

So the Volt is simply a Cruze with a $20,000 battery?
Sorry, GM only sold 8,000 Volts so far. They aren't selling because they cost too much. Volt is the right idea at the wrong time. Buy a 40 mpg Cruze as a half price Volt. You would own a Volt for 15 years before you would be money ahead of a Cruze. If I had $45k to spend on a new car, it wouldn't be a Volt.

Bingo! Me and the service director at the dealership were just talking about the same exact thing! We figured you'd have to put 120,000 miles on the Volt before you would equal what the Cruze would cost you,and thats "IF" you never have to buy gas. So yeah,15 years or 120,000 miles before you would be money ahead of the Cruze. I was going to buy one for a daily driver/work car,but not at $43k+,I was hoping they would be around $30k,I can get a Cruze for $18k.
Don't get me wrong,I love the idea and the concept,I think its a great idea,just way too expensive!

[MS3DALE]

Originally Posted by Captain Awesome

I hope you have a good fire extinguisher.

Originally Posted by lil_chef

or don't get in a serious accident

Originally Posted by djinva

No worries at all about that, read up on it. That car sat for 3 weeks before it caught fire. If I have an accident I don't plan on being there for 3 weeks. It took GM months to recreate the fire. It is very unfortunate that the media has created this image for the Volt.

I wouldn't worry about that,the Volt is no more dangerous than any other vehicle out there.

[FenwickHockey65]

I don't know if anyone's noticed but every car in this segment is expensive as hell. Mitsubishi just launched an EV that literally looks like a glorified golf cart and even that car is ridiculously expensive.

It will take time before the costs start coming down. The best thing GM can do right now is try to spread the overall costs throughout the lineup with the Cadillac ELR and Spark EV.

That being said, you do get what you pay for with Volt. If you're in the market for an EV-type vehicle, Volt is undeniably the most practical solution.

[el ess A]

There's a couple of axioms I live by.

If you can't score a goal or a home run, it's not a real sport and it's not worth being on my TV.

If you can't cam it or put a pair of headers on it (or at least a catback), it's not a real car and not worth being in my garage.

The Volt, while a sharp looking vehicle for its class....um....no.

[FenwickHockey65]

Originally Posted by el ess X

There's a couple of axioms I live by.

If you can't score a goal or a home run, it's not a real sport and it's not worth being on my TV.

If you can't cam it or put a pair of headers on it (or at least a catback), it's not a real car and not worth being in my garage.

The Volt, while a sharp looking vehicle for its class....um....no.

That's a very narrow minded point of view, but to each his own.

[IBM]

Originally Posted by MS3DALE

Bingo! Me and the service director at the dealership were just talking about the same exact thing! We figured you'd have to put 120,000 miles on the Volt before you would equal what the Cruze would cost you,and thats "IF" you never have to buy gas. So yeah,15 years or 120,000 miles before you would be money ahead of the Cruze. I was going to buy one for a daily driver/work car,but not at $43k+,I was hoping they would be around $30k,I can get a Cruze for $18k.
Don't get me wrong,I love the idea and the concept,I think its a great idea,just way too expensive!

Only around 33k+ After 7,500 rebate, though.. right?

[Milk 1027]

Originally Posted by Captain Awesome

I hope you have a good fire extinguisher.

Same goes for ANY vehicle on the road.

[MS3DALE]

Originally Posted by MS3DALE

Bingo! Me and the service director at the dealership were just talking about the same exact thing! We figured you'd have to put 120,000 miles on the Volt before you would equal what the Cruze would cost you,and thats "IF" you never have to buy gas. So yeah,15 years or 120,000 miles before you would be money ahead of the Cruze. I was going to buy one for a daily driver/work car,but not at $43k+,I was hoping they would be around $30k,I can get a Cruze for $18k.
Don't get me wrong,I love the idea and the concept,I think its a great idea,just way too expensive!

Originally Posted by IBM

Only around 33k+ After 7,500 rebate, though.. right?

Well the 3 sitting in our showroom sticker for $43k,so with the tax rebate they would be around $35.5k,however you have to finance,or pay the whole $43k upfront,the tax break rebate comes later as explained to me by our GM,now I don't understand how the whole "tax break" thing works (I'm not a tax guy,I'm a parts guy!) but I'm just looking at whole the $43k off the bat!