GM Reveals 2013 Buick Encore

[den318]

Originally Posted by fielderLS3

Sounds like it has the same engine.

And the same steering wheel that every Chevy share as well.

[CamaroVS]

Not ugly but looks like a Hyundai or something Asian...

[FenwickHockey65]

Originally Posted by den318

And the same steering wheel that every Chevy share as well.

No it's not.

[toesuf94]

Fenwick: Is this larger or smaller than the Equinox?

[FenwickHockey65]

Originally Posted by toesuf94

Fenwick: Is this larger or smaller than the Equinox?

Smaller. This is a subcompact CUV.

[Stew]

I kind of like it, but that engine is a deal breaker. Any chance of maybe the new 2.5 NA 4 banger being available? Any ide on weight?

[FenwickHockey65]

Originally Posted by Stew

I kind of like it, but that engine is a deal breaker. Any chance of maybe the new 2.5 NA 4 banger being available? Any ide on weight?

Curb weight is around 3100 lbs. No word on other engines yet.

[Kahdir]

[IBM]

Looks like a creepy shrunken-down nissan of some sort.

Do not like.

[a_Username]

Originally Posted by fielderLS3

1.4L with all wheel drive in an SUV sounds like a recipe for a 12+ second 0-60 time.

I'm sure Buick's target market are really breaking their walkers because they don't have sub 5 second 0-60 times.

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by toesuf94

Fenwick: Is this larger or smaller than the Equinox?

Much smaller. It is slightly larger than a Sonic hatchback.

[damiiaaannn]

Damn! Thats ugly.

[fielderLS3]

Originally Posted by a_Username

I'm sure Buick's target market are really breaking their walkers because they don't have sub 5 second 0-60 times.

But Buick's target market is no longer the walker-using crowd (at least I hope not, as that crowd isn't interested in sub-compacts). GM has been very adamant that the new Buick is a premium brand fighting against the likes of BMW, Lexus, Infinity, and Acura for market share, not a brand specializing in rolling tombs for the early bird special crowd as it was in the last 20 years.

I'm not saying the car should be a muscle car, but it should at least be able to get out of its own way. Toyota Corollas from 20 years ago had a better power:weight. Buick cannot expect to command a premium price for bargain basement performance. If it really is a premium vehicle with a premium price tag as GM insists it is, it must also have premium performance.

The same can be said for dumping a N/A Ecotec into the Cadillac ATS. These powertrain decisions have me questioning if GM really is committed to building up these premium brands and actually competing this time, or if they are just up to their old tricks of spreading the parts bin out as far as possible to fill as many market segments as possible as cheaply as possible, basically following the Lincoln model.

[Stew]

Originally Posted by fielderLS3

But Buick's target market is no longer the walker-using crowd (at least I hope not, as that crowd isn't interested in sub-compacts). GM has been very adamant that the new Buick is a premium brand fighting against the likes of BMW, Lexus, Infinity, and Acura for market share, not a brand specializing in rolling tombs for the early bird special crowd as it was in the last 20 years.

I'm not saying the car should be a muscle car, but it should at least be able to get out of its own way. Toyota Corollas from 20 years ago had a better power:weight. Buick cannot expect to command a premium price for bargain basement performance. If it really is a premium vehicle with a premium price tag as GM insists it is, it must also have premium performance.

The same can be said for dumping a N/A Ecotec into the Cadillac ATS. These powertrain decisions have me questioning if GM really is committed to building up these premium brands and actually competing this time, or if they are just up to their old tricks of spreading the parts bin out as far as possible to fill as many market segments as possible as cheaply as possible, basically following the Lincoln model.

I agree with this 100%. I found GM comparing the Encore with the like of the X3 and other premium mini CUVs and the engine alone makes that extremely laughable. i also agree with the standard ecotect in the ATS, seriously? The TUrbo 4 would be a great stock base engine and make it competitive with the new turbo mills from BMW, etc.