Brakes on my sisters car

Bulldogwinters · 11-26-2011, 07:05 PM

So my sister has an 01 mercury Sable that has been jerking/lurching when she hits the brakes. It only is noticable over 30 MPH. I changed out her brake pads (front disc brakes) a couple months ago. Her rears are drums and I have no idea how to work on drums, my SS has 4 wheel discs so i'm kinda SOL on having experience with em.

It's a issue for her since she has to drive 500 miles to get home, and with montana winters we don't want her to be in any danger on the icy roads. Ideas are welcomed, she just can't afford to get it taken in for a proper inspection.

Thanks everyone, and happy holidays!

StellarAuto · 11-26-2011, 07:08 PM

Are you talking about steering wheel vibration when braking from speed?

IROCanSS · 11-26-2011, 07:10 PM

Send her a check and have a shop look at them. It's your sister dude.

Zabo · 11-26-2011, 07:14 PM

1) Shoot the engine block with a deer slug.
2) Buy mid 80s blazer
3) ???
4) Profit.

IROCanSS · 11-26-2011, 07:19 PM

but

Bulldogwinters · 11-26-2011, 09:12 PM

no, the whole car vibrates, almost feels like ABS is kicking in.

I would love to help her out, but I'm 18 and can barely afford my insurance, gas, and other expenses like getting my Camaro fixed, I wish I could help her out

69Z/28Camaro · 11-26-2011, 09:40 PM

does the brake pedal shudder when slowing down? could be warped rotors. di dyou look at them when you changed the pads?

derklug · 11-26-2011, 10:19 PM

It could be the ABS kicking in, Taurus(sable) axleshafts have the reluctor ring for the ABS on the outer joint. Corrosion builds up under the ring causing it to crack. The wider gap in the ring is picked up as a speed differential and the ABS kicks in.

Dave McFly · 11-26-2011, 11:00 PM

the one thing I never understood about the last gen Taurus sedans from the late 90s to early to mid 2000s was the sedans had disc/drum but the wagons had disc/disc. it was not till the Five Hundred/Taurus and the later Taurus that is out now that they had discs front back regardless of trim level.

fielderLS3 · 11-26-2011, 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave McFly

the one thing I never understood about the last gen Taurus sedans from the late 90s to early to mid 2000s was the sedans had disc/drum but the wagons had disc/disc. it was not till the Five Hundred/Taurus and the later Taurus that is out now that they had discs front back regardless of trim level.

All 96-99s actually had 4-wheel discs. They went back to drums in 2000 when they decided to turn it into a rental car.

And to the OP, whole car shuddering sounds like (badly) warped rotors. I've never experienced a whole car shaking due to ABS.

Dave McFly · 11-27-2011, 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fielderLS3

All 96-99s actually had 4-wheel discs. They went back to drums in 2000 when they decided to turn it into a rental car.

wow, and now I know and knowing is half the battle:

Bulldogwinters · 11-27-2011, 01:39 PM

I'm getting her some front rotors as an early Christmas present when I get new rotors for myself. Mine are warped slightly, and from the way she described it I had always guessed that it was her rotors since it was similar to how mine feel. My dad's paying for her to get it taken in and checked out, and we are doing the work on it next time she's up here.

11-26-2011, 07:05 PM	#1
Bulldogwinters SS #2431 Drives: 2001 Pewter Camaro SS Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Missoula, MT Posts: 1,224 View My Garage	Brakes on my sisters car So my sister has an 01 mercury Sable that has been jerking/lurching when she hits the brakes. It only is noticable over 30 MPH. I changed out her brake pads (front disc brakes) a couple months ago. Her rears are drums and I have no idea how to work on drums, my SS has 4 wheel discs so i'm kinda SOL on having experience with em. It's a issue for her since she has to drive 500 miles to get home, and with montana winters we don't want her to be in any danger on the icy roads. Ideas are welcomed, she just can't afford to get it taken in for a proper inspection. Thanks everyone, and happy holidays! __________________ 2001 SS Lid, LT's, 3" Y to 4" Borla XR-1 dumped, LCA, LCA Brackets, Dbl. Adj. Panhard, Subframe Connectors, Shock Tower Brace, Eibach Prokit, Eddlebrock Shocks, C6 ZR1 Wheels 18x9.5

11-26-2011, 07:08 PM	#2
StellarAuto Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Tulsa, Ok Posts: 193 View My Garage	Are you talking about steering wheel vibration when braking from speed? __________________ Going as fast as my accountant will let me!

11-26-2011, 09:12 PM	#6
Bulldogwinters SS #2431 Drives: 2001 Pewter Camaro SS Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Missoula, MT Posts: 1,224 View My Garage	no, the whole car vibrates, almost feels like ABS is kicking in. I would love to help her out, but I'm 18 and can barely afford my insurance, gas, and other expenses like getting my Camaro fixed, I wish I could help her out __________________ 2001 SS Lid, LT's, 3" Y to 4" Borla XR-1 dumped, LCA, LCA Brackets, Dbl. Adj. Panhard, Subframe Connectors, Shock Tower Brace, Eibach Prokit, Eddlebrock Shocks, C6 ZR1 Wheels 18x9.5

11-26-2011, 09:40 PM	#7
69Z/28Camaro Red Big Block Camaro Drives: 93 C1500, VR Big Block 70 Camaro RS Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Indiana Posts: 966	does the brake pedal shudder when slowing down? could be warped rotors. di dyou look at them when you changed the pads? __________________ my 1970 Camaro RS. Frame off restoration. 600 HP 454 Naturally Aspirated. GM Performance Heads, Comp Mechanical cam, Weiand Stealth Intake, Holley 750 Carb. Hooker and Flowmaster exhaust system. Victory Red paint, True Rally Sport.

11-26-2011, 10:19 PM	#8
derklug Drives: 12 Boss 302 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Grand Rapids, Mi Posts: 1,369	It could be the ABS kicking in, Taurus(sable) axleshafts have the reluctor ring for the ABS on the outer joint. Corrosion builds up under the ring causing it to crack. The wider gap in the ring is picked up as a speed differential and the ABS kicks in. __________________ The biggest mistakes in life come when you know exactly what you are doing.

11-26-2011, 07:10 PM	#3
IROCanSS Account Suspended Drives: 89 IROC 350 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Back roads, southern Ohio Posts: 12,504 View My Garage	Send her a check and have a shop look at them. It's your sister dude.

11-26-2011, 07:14 PM	#4
Zabo Gunning for Sixth Drives: '03 ZR2 Blazer Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Woodhaven, Michigan Posts: 9,358 View My Garage	1) Shoot the engine block with a deer slug. 2) Buy mid 80s blazer 3) ??? 4) Profit.

11-26-2011, 07:19 PM	#5
IROCanSS Account Suspended Drives: 89 IROC 350 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Back roads, southern Ohio Posts: 12,504 View My Garage	but

11-26-2011, 11:00 PM	#9
Dave McFly new car smell Drives: 2007 Ford Mustang 'Natasha' Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Jamestown, NY Posts: 2,115 View My Garage	the one thing I never understood about the last gen Taurus sedans from the late 90s to early to mid 2000s was the sedans had disc/drum but the wagons had disc/disc. it was not till the Five Hundred/Taurus and the later Taurus that is out now that they had discs front back regardless of trim level. __________________ "May the forces of evil become confused on the way to your house." George Carlin

11-27-2011, 01:39 PM	#12
Bulldogwinters SS #2431 Drives: 2001 Pewter Camaro SS Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Missoula, MT Posts: 1,224 View My Garage	I'm getting her some front rotors as an early Christmas present when I get new rotors for myself. Mine are warped slightly, and from the way she described it I had always guessed that it was her rotors since it was similar to how mine feel. My dad's paying for her to get it taken in and checked out, and we are doing the work on it next time she's up here. __________________ 2001 SS Lid, LT's, 3" Y to 4" Borla XR-1 dumped, LCA, LCA Brackets, Dbl. Adj. Panhard, Subframe Connectors, Shock Tower Brace, Eibach Prokit, Eddlebrock Shocks, C6 ZR1 Wheels 18x9.5

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