2010 Shelby tested by Motor Trend..very fast

[Xmicro_SS]

Originally Posted by ArcAngel

^^ Wow you dont get sarcasm huh?? did you not see the smiley?

I do not trust smileys behind bold statements, but it is all good......Back to the thread.

My Boss has the 500GT in Red. It is pretty cool and sounds great. I will let you know how we do or you can come down and watch, I am supposed to take him on at Englishtown one day. SS vs. the 500GT....we shall see. I have a much bigger set of cahonaise that might help!

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by Visual_Perfection

Wondering the same thing.. Ground effects, Upgraded wheels etc.. are not things that bring the camaro's features up to par with the GT500. So if that $41k "loaded" camaro includes cosmetic add ons, that is really stupid.


Fully loaded 2SS comes out to be $36,780 for me? That includes the RS Package, IOM Interior, and Sunroof. I don't see any other options that need to be added that bring it up to GT500 "option" territory..

Hell sunroof isn't even needed, so then it is $35,880.. Not sure where he is getting $41k for a loaded SS unless he is adding GFX, Wheels etc.. which those are NOT options that should be added in comparison, as that doesn't do anything other than make the car "appear" different.

That was my line of thinking...it's not just any one person...people seem to like to inflate prices as much as possible to make two cars "even". I don't get it.

[THE EVIL TW1N]

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

That was my line of thinking...it's not just any one person...people seem to like to inflate prices as much as possible to make two cars "even". I don't get it.

I agree, but it does happen on both sides.

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by THE EVIL TW1N

I agree, but it does happen on both sides.

For sure....I still don't get it.

[drivingincamaro]

Originally Posted by ArcAngel

Here is what it includes I added the RS because of the HIDs, and the IO interior because the GT500 has an upgraded interior compared to reg GT ( Alcantara seats, steering wheel and uniques dash etc etc) *NOTE* GT500 gets Navigation Camaro 2SS does NOT* Added stripes as well as the GT500 gets stripes and reg GT doesnt come with them standard. So after TTL your looking at about 41000 give or take a few 100 depending on the state

hmmm

There is no lower level Gt500 like the 1ss. so If someone wants Cloth seats and does not want navigation to bad he has to have even if he does not want it

[garagelogic]

Originally Posted by drivingincamaro

hmmm

There is no lower level Gt500 like the 1ss. so If someone wants Cloth seats and does not want navigation to bad he has to have even if he does not want it

No cloth option, but navigation is an option on GT500's.

[Splitter]

the new shelby is a beasssttttt.

if I could afford it I might take it over a cmaro!

[fazm]

hopefully they will be able to be picked up at under msrp soon, cuz i dont need to pay 50k for a car when im 25 lol

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by ArcAngel

2SS loaded 41000 Basic GT500 46000 gap is 5000 without TTL

46000 + delivery (included in camaro price) + GG tax. You seem to ignore that when pricing a GT500. Include what is needed to make a fair comparison.

When I built a 2SS to 'load it up' as close as I can to a GT500, here's what I came up with:

RS package
IOM interior
no auto (GT500 is manual only I think)
GFX to make it look different from a lesser model ($2265)
no sunroof (I don't believe the GT500 has one)
engine cover ($285 don't know if the GT500 has something similar but I tossed it in anyway)
No special wheels (none are performance wheels)
Bonnet Stripes (extra $40 over Rally)
Did not use a premium paint ($295)

MSRP: $38 440 vs ~ $48 000 on the GT500 when you include the mandatory gas guzzler tax that the Camaro does not have and destination which Ford does not include in their pricing but Chevy does.

[Visual_Perfection]

Originally Posted by ArcAngel

Here is what it includes I added the RS because of the HIDs, and the IO interior because the GT500 has an upgraded interior compared to reg GT ( Alcantara seats, steering wheel and uniques dash etc etc) *NOTE* GT500 gets Navigation Camaro 2SS does NOT* Added stripes as well as the GT500 gets stripes and reg GT doesnt come with them standard. So after TTL your looking at about 41000 give or take a few 100 depending on the state

I didn't realize you were adding in TTL... so if you are doing that, what does the GT-500 come to after TTL? because MSRP difference is over $10k, so after you ad TTL to the 2SS, shouldn't you also be adding TTL, plus Gas Guzzler Tax etc to the GT-500?

I can see where you get the 41k now.. but now I don't know why you say there is only a $5k difference in price, because it seems as if you didn't add those costs to the GT-500.

Not tryin to argue or anything, and I am not trying to defend one car over the other, and yes both cars are amazing I will give credit where it is due, I am just trying to justify my point and understand yours

[syr74]

I'm still surprised at the buzz regarding the price difference. If performance numbers were closer I could understand, but performance isn't on par so I don't expect pricing to be either.

SS and GT500 are two different cars playing on two noticeably different levels. Both cars make an interesting argument in their own right as regards value for the dollar (example: one is the cheapest car on the market in the 400-500hp range while the other is the cheapest car producing more than 500hp)

But, unless the GT500 is an utter handling let-down compared to the lesser GT model...which seems extraordinarily unlikely.....I don't see a close enough matchup in terms of performance to warrant a serious debate about the price difference between the two. There is no blurring of the lines here as we have seen with the SRT8 Challenger, these cars are truly on different performance planes.

[ArcAngel]

Originally Posted by syr74

I'm still surprised at the buzz regarding the price difference. If performance numbers were closer I could understand, but performance isn't on par so I don't expect pricing to be either.

SS and GT500 are two different cars playing on two noticeably different levels. Both cars make an interesting argument in their own right as regards value for the dollar (example: one is the cheapest car on the market in the 400-500hp range while the other is the cheapest car producing more than 500hp)

But, unless the GT500 is an utter handling let-down compared to the lesser GT model...which seems extraordinarily unlikely.....I don't see a close enough matchup in terms of performance to warrant a serious debate about the price difference between the two. There is no blurring of the lines here as we have seen with the SRT8 Challenger, these cars are truly on different performance planes.

This is probably the best assesment of the whole descussion