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afirehawk1 · 11-07-2011, 03:20 PM

i think we will all know soon enough

htron50 · 11-07-2011, 03:33 PM

Here it is on the CTS-=V

In researching a new V Coupe I found out they charge $1300 GGT for a manual transmission CTS V and $2600 GGT for an automatic. Essentially even though there is no charge to get an automatic the extra GGT makes it a $1300 option.

Not saying thats what the ZL1 will be, but it wont be too far off...

Z4me · 11-07-2011, 03:47 PM

I could see why something in between the SS and the ZL1 would be attractive to some potential buyers. Perhaps something like 1LE which
could avoid the GGT, but still have the potential with some modding to be
a very aggressive car.
All that being said, I sticking with the ZL1 it has pretty much all that I'm
looking for. I'll be willing to pay GGT and be done with it, well perhaps some mods here and there once I recover from paying off my new car.

paul2010 · 11-07-2011, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toilets

E2C ORDER TO DELIVERY EXPEDITE TO CUSTOMER

do you happen to have this also? if so do you know what it is?

I have it too. I just means that the car hauler will stop at my house and unload my car to my driveway.

mr02Z/28 · 11-07-2011, 07:45 PM

WoW @ $2,600 for the Gas Guzzler Tax... Hopefully your City/State sales Tax isn't a killer too... I know my City sales Tax is a whopper..

BATMAN! · 11-07-2011, 07:49 PM

Why do you guys care about the GG tax on a ZR1 for?

mvarley · 11-07-2011, 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrvenicess

Look up how much it is on a CTSv. Should be about the same.

I paid $2,600 on my CTS-V (auto) about a month ago.
Mike

mr02Z/28 · 11-07-2011, 08:29 PM

I look at it this way, if you really can afford the ZR1 or a Camaro ZL1, the Gas Guzzler Tax probably shouldn't be too big of a concern.. We all understand that this car is going to do poor on gas and is going to be priced well into the $50 thousand dollar range.. It should be no big shock of a GGtax that high..

VenomInside · 11-07-2011, 08:35 PM

how are any of you surprised by this?

OldJedi · 11-07-2011, 08:46 PM

We went to the Miami Auto Show this weekend and no Chevy did not bother to send a ZL1 to a show that has an area populated by 4 million people. While we were there we found other cars that were subject to a GG Tax.

2012 Cadillac CTS-V (Auto) - 12/18 MPG - $2,600.00 GGT
2012 Cadillac CTS-V (Man.) - 14/19 MPG - $1,300.00 GGT
2012 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 - 14/21 MPG - $1,000.00 GGT
2012 Dodge Challenger SRT-8 - 14/23 MPG - $1,000.00 GGT
2012 Ford GT500 - 15/23 MPG - NO GGT
2012 Camaro SS - 16/24 MPG - NO GGT

If the ZL1 Manual could match the ZR1, it would only be a $1,000 GGT

The IOM Ninja · 11-07-2011, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VenomInside

how are any of you surprised by this?

The stupidity of people amazes me, if the GGT is applied to the CTS-V it's gonna be applied to the ZL1, seeing as they are practically the same weight.

Shurenuff · 11-07-2011, 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldJedi

We went to the Miami Auto Show this weekend and no Chevy did not bother to send a ZL1 to a show that has an area populated by 4 million people. While we there we found other cars that were subject to a GG Tax.

2012 Cadillac CTS-V (Auto) - 12/18MPG - $2,600.00 GGT
2012 Dodge Challenger - 14/23 MPG - $1,000.00 GGT
2012 Corvette ZR1 - 14/21 MPG - $1,000.00
2012 Ford GT500 - 15/23 MPG - NO GGT
2012 Camaro SS - 16/24 MPG - NO GGT

If the ZL1 Manual could match the ZR1, it would only be a $1,000 GGT

I'd be very pleasantly surprised with that as I've been budgeting for a higher number.

IcePick06 · 11-07-2011, 11:11 PM

I dont see why the ZL1 cant at least match the ZR1 GGtax...it has less HP and a smaller engine correct? I really wish chevy could have matched Ford and put the GGtax issue to rest but I guess not. I'm sure the 2013 Gt500 will have the tax tho. Hopefully the MSRP is adjusted to compensate for this shortcoming

*DGthe3* · 11-08-2011, 12:00 AM

Well, it won't be any worse than the CTS-V. Sure, its more powerful, but that extra power comes from having a better breathing engine so it won't hurt the fuel economy, and if anything it will help it. The Camaro is a touch smaller & lighter, which would also help a bit. So I wouldn't be surprised if the ZL1 comes in one bracket better than the CTS-V, which would be $1000 for the manual & $2100 for the auto.

11-07-2011, 03:47 PM	#17
Z4me Drives: 2013 ZL1 IOM Vin #169 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,953	I could see why something in between the SS and the ZL1 would be attractive to some potential buyers. Perhaps something like 1LE which could avoid the GGT, but still have the potential with some modding to be a very aggressive car. All that being said, I sticking with the ZL1 it has pretty much all that I'm looking for. I'll be willing to pay GGT and be done with it, well perhaps some mods here and there once I recover from paying off my new car. __________________

11-07-2011, 08:46 PM	#24
OldJedi Use the Force Drives: 2015 Corvette Z51, 2018 Porsche GTS Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Davie, Fl. Posts: 3,862	We went to the Miami Auto Show this weekend and no Chevy did not bother to send a ZL1 to a show that has an area populated by 4 million people. While we were there we found other cars that were subject to a GG Tax. 2012 Cadillac CTS-V (Auto) - 12/18 MPG - $2,600.00 GGT 2012 Cadillac CTS-V (Man.) - 14/19 MPG - $1,300.00 GGT 2012 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 - 14/21 MPG - $1,000.00 GGT 2012 Dodge Challenger SRT-8 - 14/23 MPG - $1,000.00 GGT 2012 Ford GT500 - 15/23 MPG - NO GGT 2012 Camaro SS - 16/24 MPG - NO GGT If the ZL1 Manual could match the ZR1, it would only be a $1,000 GGT __________________ Walk softly, carry a light saber and drive a ZL1! Last edited by OldJedi; 11-08-2011 at 11:09 AM.

11-08-2011, 12:00 AM	#28
DGthe3 Moderator.ca Drives: 05 Grand Am GT Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Niagara, Canada Posts: 25,372	Well, it won't be any worse than the CTS-V. Sure, its more powerful, but that extra power comes from having a better breathing engine so it won't hurt the fuel economy, and if anything it will help it. The Camaro is a touch smaller & lighter, which would also help a bit. So I wouldn't be surprised if the ZL1 comes in one bracket better than the CTS-V, which would be $1000 for the manual & $2100 for the auto. __________________ Note, if I've gotten any facts wrong in the above, just ignore any points I made with them __________________ Originally Posted by FbodFather My sister's dentist's brother's cousin's housekeeper's dog-breeder's nephew sells coffee filters to the company that provides coffee to General Motors...... ........and HE WOULD KNOW!!!! __________________ Camaro Fest sub-forum

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afirehawk1 Drives: 1969 Camaro SS, 2007 Z51 Corvette Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Valrico, Florida Posts: 207	i think we will all know soon enough

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11-07-2011, 07:45 PM	#19
mr02Z/28 Drives: 2002 Z/28,1968 Chevelle convert. Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Phila.,PA Posts: 1,141 View My Garage	WoW @ $2,600 for the Gas Guzzler Tax... Hopefully your City/State sales Tax isn't a killer too... I know my City sales Tax is a whopper..

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11-07-2011, 08:29 PM	#22
mr02Z/28 Drives: 2002 Z/28,1968 Chevelle convert. Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Phila.,PA Posts: 1,141 View My Garage	I look at it this way, if you really can afford the ZR1 or a Camaro ZL1, the Gas Guzzler Tax probably shouldn't be too big of a concern.. We all understand that this car is going to do poor on gas and is going to be priced well into the $50 thousand dollar range.. It should be no big shock of a GGtax that high..

11-07-2011, 11:11 PM	#27
IcePick06 Drives: '12 AGM ZL1 (SOLD); '07 Ducati 1098 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Tha OCizzle Posts: 731	I dont see why the ZL1 cant at least match the ZR1 GGtax...it has less HP and a smaller engine correct? I really wish chevy could have matched Ford and put the GGtax issue to rest but I guess not. I'm sure the 2013 Gt500 will have the tax tho. Hopefully the MSRP is adjusted to compensate for this shortcoming