Consumer Reports: Fords Profits drop, Fords reliability plummets. - Page 2

*GTAHVIT* · 10-27-2011, 02:04 PM

There is nothing reliable about consumer reports. They rarely support American products.

Drew10 · 10-27-2011, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

CR is garbage.

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Originally Posted by GTAHVIT

There is nothing reliable about consumer reports. They rarely support American products.

Yep, if it's not Honda or Toyota, it's junk in their eyes.

Overflow · 10-27-2011, 02:34 PM

I couldn't even finish the video because his voice is so annoying.

xXSilencerXx · 10-27-2011, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by cab2g

Yeah I heard the reliability woes were mostly related to the Sync system being too confusing and buggy. Blame Microsoft, what'd you expect from the makers of the Zune and Windows.... I still love sync though, but not Microsoft.

If you can't figure out how to work a Zune you might be a little challenged.

It's the same as every other music player.

Oh yea, Ford sucks! lol

Crowley · 10-27-2011, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by GTAHVIT

There is nothing reliable about consumer reports. They rarely support American products.

syr74 · 10-27-2011, 05:50 PM

I've got an admitted soft spot for the Blue Oval, and even I am amazed every time I see another die hard SN95 enthusiast. In all sincerity, era considered, the SN95 is easily one of the worst two Mustang platforms ever devised, and the New Edge is the worst of the two bodystyles produced on that platform. The performance bright spots in the histry of the SN95 are the R models, the 03-04 Cobra, and the Mach-1, and even in those you still had to live with literally God-awful ergonomics, a chassis that had arguably passed it's sell-by date before it even hit the lot, and styling that had managed to go from meh
(94-98) to train wreck (New Edge). The 94-98 models looked better than the follow on New Edge cars and the chassis didn't become woefully outmoded until the New Edge models rolled around, unfortunately the fastest of the 94-98 cars was underwhelming to be kind and by the time they fixed that the whole car needed a redux.

Sometimes I find myself amazed that Mustang and Camaro survived the 1990's at all. As for CR, I think they just make this stuff up as they go along.

FenwickHockey65 · 10-27-2011, 06:44 PM

CR is good for one purpose only.

TOBY J · 10-27-2011, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

CR is garbage.

I couldn't agree more!

coolman · 10-27-2011, 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

CR is good for one purpose only.

They have no idea how to get the facts straight.

Zabo · 10-28-2011, 06:15 AM

First I watched the video:

"Consumer reports may test cars good, but their approach to reliability studies/polls suck ass"

Then read the thread:

"Consumer Reports is TP!"

..Please watch the video before commenting people. All it was, was some balking at Ford's profit stuff, Volkswagen's Darth Pieth, Jeep pwning reliability studies, and some guy named 2kris2kross thinking Nissan owns the letter Z.

Oh, and a crappy Mustang photoshop. Good morning everyone!

FenwickHockey65 · 10-28-2011, 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zabo

First I watched the video:

"Consumer reports may test cars good, but their approach to reliability studies/polls suck ass"

Then read the thread:

"Consumer Reports is TP!"

..Please watch the video before commenting people. All it was, was some balking at Ford's profit stuff, Volkswagen's Darth Pieth, Jeep pwning reliability studies, and some guy named 2kris2kross thinking Nissan owns the letter Z.

Oh, and a crappy Mustang photoshop. Good morning everyone!

Doesn't change the fact that CR is garbage.

Number 3 · 10-28-2011, 09:26 AM

BTW the dirty little secret for CR is that to complete a reliablity survey on a car you do NOT need to own the car, only subscribe to the magazine.

Also, there are 3 elements to getting the CR Recommended Buy.

1 Reliability, determined from the survey, which as I mentioned does not require you to actually own the car

2 Performance, reviewed by David Champion and his crew. They have their own priorities and those don't generally line up with what we might find important.

3 Safety, the car has to have certain safety content and features and meet minimum performance requirements.

It's not perfect by any means, but those that look at a car as an appliance and need someone to tell them what is "ok to buy" rely heavily on CR.

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Number 3 Hail to the King baby! Drives: '19 XT4 2.0T & '22 VW Atlas 2.0T Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Illinois Posts: 12,310 View My Garage	BTW the dirty little secret for CR is that to complete a reliablity survey on a car you do NOT need to own the car, only subscribe to the magazine. Also, there are 3 elements to getting the CR Recommended Buy. 1 Reliability, determined from the survey, which as I mentioned does not require you to actually own the car 2 Performance, reviewed by David Champion and his crew. They have their own priorities and those don't generally line up with what we might find important. 3 Safety, the car has to have certain safety content and features and meet minimum performance requirements. It's not perfect by any means, but those that look at a car as an appliance and need someone to tell them what is "ok to buy" rely heavily on CR. __________________ "Speed, it seems to me, provides the one genuinely modern pleasure." - Aldous Huxley

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Overflow Space Shuttle Aficionado Drives: 2016 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 30,897 View My Garage	I couldn't even finish the video because his voice is so annoying.

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syr74 Account Suspended Drives: Thunderbird Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Kentucky Posts: 951	I've got an admitted soft spot for the Blue Oval, and even I am amazed every time I see another die hard SN95 enthusiast. In all sincerity, era considered, the SN95 is easily one of the worst two Mustang platforms ever devised, and the New Edge is the worst of the two bodystyles produced on that platform. The performance bright spots in the histry of the SN95 are the R models, the 03-04 Cobra, and the Mach-1, and even in those you still had to live with literally God-awful ergonomics, a chassis that had arguably passed it's sell-by date before it even hit the lot, and styling that had managed to go from meh (94-98) to train wreck (New Edge). The 94-98 models looked better than the follow on New Edge cars and the chassis didn't become woefully outmoded until the New Edge models rolled around, unfortunately the fastest of the 94-98 cars was underwhelming to be kind and by the time they fixed that the whole car needed a redux. Sometimes I find myself amazed that Mustang and Camaro survived the 1990's at all. As for CR, I think they just make this stuff up as they go along.

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Zabo Gunning for Sixth Drives: '03 ZR2 Blazer Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Woodhaven, Michigan Posts: 9,358 View My Garage	First I watched the video: "Consumer reports may test cars good, but their approach to reliability studies/polls suck ass" Then read the thread: "Consumer Reports is TP!" ..Please watch the video before commenting people. All it was, was some balking at Ford's profit stuff, Volkswagen's Darth Pieth, Jeep pwning reliability studies, and some guy named 2kris2kross thinking Nissan owns the letter Z. Oh, and a crappy Mustang photoshop. Good morning everyone!