Bye-bye Viper

[09'Z28]

GM is the only one of the top 3 manufacturers who isn't having "money trouble"

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by 09'Z28

GM is the only one of the top 3 manufacturers who isn't having "money trouble"

What was it then when GM lost $39 billion in the fall? Also, what sort of trouble is Toyota having right now?

[WillInThe04Ranger]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

What was it then when GM lost $39 billion in the fall? Also, what sort of trouble is Toyota having right now?

Too many Toyotathons IMO

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

What was it then when GM lost $39 billion in the fall? Also, what sort of trouble is Toyota having right now?

That was a taxes technicality. They didn't actually lose any money sales-speaking. They are dead even with taxes, and writeoffs as I understand it. So this will allow them to focus more on profits now, as I understand it.

And I believe (could be wrong) that he meant the Big 3.

[WillInThe04Ranger]

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

That was a taxes technicality. They didn't actually lose any money sales-speaking. They are dead even with taxes, and writeoffs as I understand it. So this will allow them to focus more on profits now, as I understand it.

And I believe (could be wrong) that he meant the Big 3.

Profits = Camaro

[DGthe3]

Ok, that pretty much answers my question. Back on topic.

The Viper was an amazing car, know by all to be an uncompromising beast. It was created by a couple of the biggest names in the automotive industry, Bob Lutz and Carol Shelby. The comparison tests between the Viper and the Corvette have been amazing to watch and to read. I suppose this is a bitter sweet victory for the Corvette and GM, similar to what Ford had when the Camaro and Firebird production ended.

[WillInThe04Ranger]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

Ok, that pretty much answers my question. Back on topic.

The Viper was an amazing car, know by all to be an uncompromising beast. It was created by a couple of the biggest names in the automotive industry, Bob Lutz and Carol Shelby. The comparison tests between the Viper and the Corvette have been amazing to watch and to read. I suppose this is a bitter sweet victory for the Corvette and GM, similar to what Ford had when the Camaro and Firebird production ended.

True that, but maybe Dodge/chrysler/Jeep/Plymouth - MOPAR has something up their sleeves for 2010 or 2011 ...... I know at one time they had a concept of a baby viper (copperhead) in the works but I think they canceled it all together

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

The Viper was an amazing car, know by all to be an uncompromising beast. It was created by a couple of the biggest names in the automotive industry, Bob Lutz and Carol Shelby.

You know, you bring up an intersting point that's been stewing in my mind ever since I heard this.

I know it was his job - but I wonder how Mr. Lutz feels about this. Bitter Sweet might be an understatement. That was the highest-profile Hi-Po car he got together for Chrysler, wasn't it? And now he's done it again, by approving ZR-1. Which you notice was mentioned as a player in the death of the snake. Given the financial situation that Chrysler's in, they can't top the ZR-1.

Heh, he changed teams, and killed one of his brainchildren with a better one!

[09'Z28]

i meant the Big American 3 by the way

[WillInThe04Ranger]

Originally Posted by 09'Z28

i meant the Big American 3 by the way

Dodge GM ford?

[09'Z28]

technically Chrysler but yes Will

[stovt001]

Originally Posted by Dan

Daimler doesn't own Chrysler anymore. They read the writing on the wall and dumped them a couple years ago.

I know they don't own them anymore. They bought them, screwed them over with horrible products, then sold then to the company that will milk every last drop from it until it dies. Sad times.

[Sick]

Originally Posted by WillInThe04Ranger

Too many Toyotathons IMO

[WillInThe04Ranger]

Originally Posted by 09'Z28

technically Chrysler but yes Will

Chrysler/Dodge/Plymouth/Jeep = MOPAR I want a mut muscle car! I want a AMC!!