COLLEGE FOOTBALL 2011

[Dr Jkel]

It still goes back to money in the end......Most smaller school, if not all, play bigger schools for one reason....MONEY. North Texas, Kent State etc....receive upwards of a million dollars for playing Alabama and for a smaller school wanting to come up that is the best revenue generator in the world. Same with other conferences sceduling smaller schools etc.....all about the money. Sure it is non-competitive, but NOT all the time...See Al-La Monroe, Michigan- App State, sometimes they actually win on the field.

This Big 12 issue is no different..From the outside looking in it appears that the conference members feel Texas has an unfair advantage with the LHN, and a decided financial edge. I really do not think it affects OU, Ok St, and the bigger schools but the smaller ones in the conference are feeling it the most.

In this BCS era teams are all about winning their conference, especially when their conferences are strong....NONE of it is fair and don't make that mistake of thinking it is. Here is why I say that. Right now you have several conference championship games, but not all........Take the Big 12 this year, Big 10 and Pac 10 last year...they do not have a conference championship game......a decided advantage for them especially if they are in the running......The extra game is a BIG risk, for injuries etc....McElroy got his ribs broke in the game with Florida....and it was so obviuos that it affected him in the BCS N/C game.

The new super conferences are coming and then you will basically have 64 teams fighting it out from 4 conferences......Do you really think that each conference will have the 64 best schools? Not even close.....SEE SEC this year....Ole Miss, Auburn, Miss St, Ole Miss.....Sure some of them have not lost...YET

But it will be interesting to see how it all plays out.....

[JUISSD]

Originally Posted by Dr Jkel

It still goes back to money in the end......Most smaller school, if not all, play bigger schools for one reason....MONEY. North Texas, Kent State etc....receive upwards of a million dollars for playing Alabama and for a smaller school wanting to come up that is the best revenue generator in the world. Same with other conferences sceduling smaller schools etc.....all about the money. Sure it is non-competitive, but NOT all the time...See Al-La Monroe, Michigan- App State, sometimes they actually win on the field.

The small schools are willing to get led to slaughter for the money of course. Why else would they do it? It's rarely competitive. The small schools winning is an anomaly. The big schools schedule them to fill holes in their schedule with cupcakes so they don't hurt their rankings.

Originally Posted by Dr Jkel

This Big 12 issue is no different..From the outside looking in it appears that the conference members feel Texas has an unfair advantage with the LHN, and a decided financial edge. I really do not think it affects OU, Ok St, and the bigger schools but the smaller ones in the conference are feeling it the most.

Why should UT hamstring themselves when they're one of the most marketable and profitable brands in the country? The Big 12 didn't have the foresight to create a network, UT tried to get one started with other schools, they all said no, so UT made their own. Why should they have to share that money? They shouldn't, and they won't.

Originally Posted by Dr Jekl

In this BCS era teams are all about winning their conference, especially when their conferences are strong

College football has ALWAYS been about winning your conference. Before the BCS it was probably the most important thing. There are no biased polls to decide the winner, it was always decided on the field, and that's what mattered to teams.

Originally Posted by Dr Jekl

NONE of it is fair and don't make that mistake of thinking it is. Here is why I say that. Right now you have several conference championship games, but not all........Take the Big 12 this year, Big 10 and Pac 10 last year...they do not have a conference championship game......a decided advantage for them especially if they are in the running......The extra game is a BIG risk, for injuries etc....McElroy got his ribs broke in the game with Florida....and it was so obviuos that it affected him in the BCS N/C game.

I completely disagree. In fact, more times than not having a conference championship game helps more than it hurts. That extra week to bolster the winner's rankings while the other teams sit idle is a tremendous benefit. Take LSU for example. When they won the NC they had no shot of even playing in the NC game if they don't play that extra week and leapfrog over several teams to land at the #2 spot. The extra week also gives teams less of a layoff between the season and their bowl games.

Originally Posted by Dr Jekl

The new super conferences are coming and then you will basically have 64 teams fighting it out from 4 conferences......Do you really think that each conference will have the 64 best schools? Not even close.....SEE SEC this year....Ole Miss, Auburn, Miss St, Ole Miss.....Sure some of them have not lost...YET

But it will be interesting to see how it all plays out.....

I hope we don't go to 16 team conferences. We'll just have to wait and see.

[BackinBlackSS/RS]

BIG test this weekend for Michigan. San Diego St.(Brady Hoke's team from last year) will test this young Michigan squad. Hoke knows how good San Diego St. is and we better bring the A game, or it could be trouble. I think it is a win/win situation for Hoke.
If he wins, then that is of course a good thing. If he loses though, well, that shows he can build a team(San Diego St., who was HORRIBLE before he got there) into a very good football team.

GO BLUE!!!

[CamaroSkooter]

I'm interested to watch the Texas A&M vs. Oklahoma State game this weekend. Also of interest:

Arkansas @ Alabama
Florida St. @ Clemson
LSU @ West Virginia

Every other game looks like they could be pretty lopsided...

[RSokie]

Originally Posted by CamaroSkooter

I'm interested to watch the Texas A&M vs. Oklahoma State game this weekend. Also of interest:

Arkansas @ Alabama
Florida St. @ Clemson
LSU @ West Virginia

Every other game looks like they could be pretty lopsided...

Those are going to be some good matchups.

[PQ]

Originally Posted by skar

ND is on its way back. Good recruiting class coming up.
Kelly knows how to win.

On their way back to what?

Originally Posted by Dr Jkel

The new super conferences are coming and then you will basically have 64 teams fighting it out from 4 conferences......Do you really think that each conference will have the 64 best schools? Not even close.....SEE SEC this year....Ole Miss, Auburn, Miss St, Ole Miss.....Sure some of them have not lost...YET

When I say I hope for a 64 team feild of 4 conferences (which seems much less likely now) I mean good teams. Some of those teams at least will be good every once in a while. Go back 20 years. If they haven't spent a certain amount of weeks ranked then their out.

But ALL conferences knock each other out of the ranking by the end for the most part. Hard for a conference to keep a bunch of ranked teams because they beat each other out. The Big 12 is 23-2 right now. Had Missou not lost to Az St. they would have 6 ranked teams. As it is right now half the conference is ranked. But they all have to play each other and knock each other out. So does the Big 10 (lmao at what is the big 10 and big 12) SEC, PAC 100 and the rest.

When I talk 16 team conferences, I would leave out the Vanderbilts and Baylors of the feild. If Kentuky couldn't play basketball I'd leave them out too. Iowa St. got no reason to be. These schools could be good if they wanted but won't invest in theri programs. They have a free Fing ride and they know it. I could come up with 64 schools who would be a good feild.

There is a BIG difference between North Texas or East Illinios as opposed to Syracuse and Miss St.

Originally Posted by JUISSD

College football has ALWAYS been about winning your conference. Before the BCS it was probably the most important thing. There are no biased polls to decide the winner, it was always decided on the field, and that's what mattered to teams.

The BCS is the best thing to happen to college football EVER.

Not as good as it should be, but better than it was before.

You see, the reason college football turns so many people off and why I wouldn't even watch it if OU wasn't a national power is because it's was NEVER played off on the feild. The BCS got me watching again. Even before OU got good again.

Before the BCS the number 1 team would just play a mid ranked team and get voted number one anyway. Only way for number 2 to win was to hope the number 1 team got upset.

So last year Auburn would have probably played a 12th ranked Cincinati team and Oregon play someone else. Oregon would have never had the chance to play them and would have to HOPE Auburn got upset to a crappy team. The year before I gaurantee Alabama would have played the 13th ranked Penn St. (Ohio St. was #10 and would have been in the Rose Bowl) and Texas would have been in the orange bowl likely playing 14th ranked Miami and hoping Bama would get upset by a shity team.

How bout this. PERFECT example..... #1 Ohio St. would have played #7 USC in the Rose bowl (given the Pac 10 and Big 10 Rose Bowl tie in) and LSU would not have won the NC because they'd have been playing in the cotton bowl or something.

So, to me, until something better comes along, the BCS is FAR SUPERIOR to what it used to be.

[ShnOmac]

Originally Posted by BackinBlackSS/RS

BIG test this weekend for Michigan. San Diego St.(Brady Hoke's team from last year) will test this young Michigan squad. Hoke knows how good San Diego St. is and we better bring the A game, or it could be trouble. I think it is a win/win situation for Hoke.
If he wins, then that is of course a good thing. If he loses though, well, that shows he can build a team(San Diego St., who was HORRIBLE before he got there) into a very good football team.

GO BLUE!!!

It's going to be a very BIG test for Michigan. The defense better show up from the first play and Denard better quit over throwing the ball...... Or it could be a really bad day!

[PQ]

Michigan could be 4-0

[JUISSD]

Originally Posted by PQ

The BCS is the best thing to happen to college football EVER.

Not as good as it should be, but better than it was before.

You see, the reason college football turns so many people off and why I wouldn't even watch it if OU wasn't a national power is because it's was NEVER played off on the feild. The BCS got me watching again. Even before OU got good again.

Before the BCS the number 1 team would just play a mid ranked team and get voted number one anyway. Only way for number 2 to win was to hope the number 1 team got upset.

So last year Auburn would have probably played a 12th ranked Cincinati team and Oregon play someone else. Oregon would have never had the chance to play them and would have to HOPE Auburn got upset to a crappy team. The year before I gaurantee Alabama would have played the 13th ranked Penn St. (Ohio St. was #10 and would have been in the Rose Bowl) and Texas would have been in the orange bowl likely playing 14th ranked Miami and hoping Bama would get upset by a shity team.

How bout this. PERFECT example..... #1 Ohio St. would have played #7 USC in the Rose bowl (given the Pac 10 and Big 10 Rose Bowl tie in) and LSU would not have won the NC because they'd have been playing in the cotton bowl or something.

So, to me, until something better comes along, the BCS is FAR SUPERIOR to what it used to be.

So.. What does any of that have to do with my comments about conference championships??

Michigan could be, and should be 4-0. SDSU is good but I think we're better. We'll see. I don't care about 4-0 though. We were 4-0 the last 2 years too and we sucked.

[PQ]

Originally Posted by JUISSD

So.. What does any of that have to do with my comments about conference championships??

Not a thing. I was only commenting on the one part I bolded.

It was just interesting to read it.

Having gone back and rereading your post, I see now that you were talking about No polls to win the conference but only conference standings. My bad. The BCS part had me thinking in a different way.

Carry on.

[JUISSD]

Haha it's all good.

[LostInMoscow]

The big game for me this week is in Morgantown, WV. I'm a WVU alumnus. If WVU can somehow nudge out LSU, it's going to really move that program in the right direction in a trying time. LSU is tough though! Real tough! I got my fingers crossed! Go Mountaineers!

[LostInMoscow]

Originally Posted by PQ

Michigan could be 4-0

Rich Rod had them at 5 - 0 once. Be careful!

[PQ]

Originally Posted by JUISSD

We were 4-0 the last 2 years too and we sucked.

Originally Posted by LostInMoscow

Rich Rod had them at 5 - 0 once. Be careful!

I hadn't realized it. Guess I suck as an all around college football guy.