Here goes the UAW again....

[lil_chef]

Originally Posted by Superman09

Ummmmmm yeah these are two of the most moronic arguments I have ever heard.I am not independently wealthy, my parents didn't leave me a trust fund. I dropped out of college with a bank account balance of less than $20. I now earn $10.XX an hour have a wife and two kids recently bought a decent sized house in a very nice neighborhood and Lord willing will be buying a Camaro middle of next year.

Thanks guys for showing your complete and utter ignorance for just about everything in life. You both would benefit greatly from this quote from Mark Twain, "It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt"

and does your wife work? if so you don't apply to what they said....

[Superman09]

She babysits 2 little boys a couple days a week for 20 bucks so yeah I still apply

[Rogue Leader]

Originally Posted by Superman09

Ummmmmm yeah these are two of the most moronic arguments I have ever heard.I am not independently wealthy, my parents didn't leave me a trust fund. I dropped out of college with a bank account balance of less than $20. I now earn $10.XX an hour have a wife and two kids recently bought a decent sized house in a very nice neighborhood and Lord willing will be buying a Camaro middle of next year.

Thanks guys for showing your complete and utter ignorance for just about everything in life. You both would benefit greatly from this quote from Mark Twain, "It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt"

Humor me for a second, I see what they are saying, they just didn't say it very well.

It sounds like where you live $10-$15 an hour is more than reasonable to live, own a house, have kids, etc. Assuming you're not sitting on a mountain of debt of course. However that is not the case in every part of the country. Where I live, $10 an hour won't get you out of your parents basement, and could barely afford you a hoopty car. Which means if you do only make $10 an hour, you obviously aren't gonna have enough to bank or whatever, you should not even be attempting to buy a nice car, and should keep your "weapon holstered" if you know what I mean.

The point they are trying to make is people don't live within their means (and that includes getting married and having kids), they want more than they can afford and do it anyway despite the fact they don't make enough money to support it.

[Fightinfire921]

Originally Posted by Rogue Leader

Humor me for a second, I see what they are saying, they just didn't say it very well.

It sounds like where you live $10-$15 an hour is more than reasonable to live, own a house, have kids, etc. Assuming you're not sitting on a mountain of debt of course. However that is not the case in every part of the country. Where I live, $10 an hour won't get you out of your parents basement, and could barely afford you a hoopty car. Which means if you do only make $10 an hour, you obviously aren't gonna have enough to bank or whatever, you should not even be attempting to buy a nice car, and should keep your "weapon holstered" if you know what I mean.

The point they are trying to make is people don't live within their means (and that includes getting married and having kids), they want more than they can afford and do it anyway despite the fact they don't make enough money to support it.

And I'm still waiting on an answer to how the UAW and teacher unions are in the same class.

[ffrcobra_65]

problem is many Americans love living beyond their means rather than within.

[SlingShot]

Originally Posted by SlingShot

I have to agree with you, the American worker is causing their own problems. When they lose their $17 an hour job, they think they are too good to work a different job for $10 an hour. Until they suck it up and start taking a lower paying job, nothing will ever turn around. Sometimes it does start at the bottom and work it's way up.

Originally Posted by coolman

So the worker isn't supposed to get a piece of the pie? Save all the wealth for the people on the top that do the least. This kind of thinking that you and many others have is what is ruining this country. I've owned a business for over 20 years ,and I can tell it pays large to pay your employees well and treat them right. It helped to make me very wealthy along with having some great people working for me. You know the old saying, you get what you pay for. It's governmental policies that are hurting the American work force more than unions.

I don't think you understand what I'm trying to say. There are thousands of lesser paying jobs out there. And rather than sucking off the unemployment for $7.50 a hour, take the $10 a hour job. I'm not saying stay there for ever, but it will help to get things going again. It may give that person a little more to budget with, and give them a chance to spend an extra $25 on something else. Then that store will eventually have to hire another person and so on and so on. If everyone just sits on their ass waiting for that $20 a hour, things will never recover. People and jobs is like anything else, supply and demand until it reaches it's plateau.

[Rogue Leader]

Originally Posted by SlingShot

I don't think you understand what I'm trying to say. There are thousands of lesser paying jobs out there. And rather than sucking off the unemployment for $7.50 a hour, take the $10 a hour job. I'm not saying stay there for ever, but it will help to get things going again. It may give that person a little more to budget with, and give them a chance to spend an extra $25 on something else. Then that store will eventually have to hire another person and so on and so on. If everyone just sits on their ass waiting for that $20 a hour, things will never recover. People and jobs is like anything else, supply and demand until it reaches it's plateau.

Quoted for truth.

If I lost my job tomorrow and needed the cash to come in I'm not above digging ditches or flipping burgers. Do what you have to do if you can't get something better soon. Too many people are "holding out for a management position" these days. I've seen it many times and then all they do is whine on facebook about how they are broke.

[Berean]

Originally Posted by Rogue Leader

Quoted for truth.

If I lost my job tomorrow and needed the cash to come in I'm not above digging ditches or flipping burgers. Do what you have to do if you can't get something better soon. Too many people are "holding out for a management position" these days. I've seen it many times and then all they do is whine on facebook about how they are broke.

Been there. Got laid off 10 yrs ago from a high paying management job when the telecom bubble burst.

I worked as a security guard, grocery stocker, and cleaned swimming pools. It took me two years and had to move my family to another state before I got back into my profession and started making money again.

I have zero sympathy for unemployed people who act like there are no jobs out there. What they mean is that there are no jobs they are willing to do.

Even in this bad economy, minimum wage jobs are out there for anyone willing to work.

And the good news is, because of the irresponsible people who fill most of these jobs, all you have to do is show up for work on time and you are already ahead of 50% of them. Then do your job while you're there and now you're ahead of 95% of them and tied with the rest.