Chevy Missed the Boat

[2001ragtop]

The new Silverados have excellent steering. Not sure if all trucks are like this, but the front suspension now has struts. (just like tahoes/suberbans/avalanche). the springs are at the top of the struts. the springs don't rest on any control arms. (the heavy duty trucks probably aren't like this though. Theres no way.)

this is the first time i have seen (double wishbone) front end set up like this. this probably explains why the steering feels so car-like.

GM trucks look expensive looking and high class. (all of them including their suv's.)

The Ford trucks look different due to the very high walls of the bed in back. I had a composite INTAKE manifold fail on a Ford OHC V8, so now I assume it will happen again, which is why I stay far away from Ford V8 engines. Though it looks like their new intakes are metal now, and may have resolved that issue. Also, I bet that little air-idle-control-valve thing that fails all the time, still is on their engines right now which is another reason I don't like them. The V6 and V8's have them. They get dirty and the car won't hold an idle, then you remove it/clean it or spray it with carb cleaner. I have never heard of that happening on chevy V8s yet.

[FenwickHockey65]

Originally Posted by 5thGenOwner

Isn't this Chevy's answer... just they arn't bringing it to the US?

http://editorial.autos.msn.com/10-ca...autos_money2#2

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Edit: The more I see this, the more I like it!

That's the Colorado. Midsize.

Unknown whether or not we'll get that exact truck, but as of now, the current GMT-355 trucks will go out of production until the new models are ready to go in 2014ish.

[JHL88]

get a sierra denali

[shank0668]

Ford, ugly box, in fact, I don't really like the chevy's or gmc's newest body style.
I really liked the 2002 chevys.
If I were to get a new half ton it would be a dodge.
However.......... GMC all terrain concept.

[Black GT]

Originally Posted by JHL88

get a sierra denali

Did you ever own one of these?

Recently traded in a 2006 GMC Denali, biggest piece of shit I ever owned.

[shank0668]

Just curious if ford fixed their paint issues, our old expedition had paint that always bubble/ pealed on the hood, and we looked at a newer one that did the same.

[Berean]

Originally Posted by jtmiller92

I cant comment on the Ford but I dont like the newer body style chevy truck. The 03-07 Classic in my opinion was a much nicer truck.

I have an 07 Sierra classic. The new body style with the exaggerated fender flairs and jacked up rear suspension looks pretty lame.

[Toyaholic]

Originally Posted by KMPrenger

The Ford platinum is a great truck...and now for MY2011 with those new engines they are very very sweet. Interiors are awesome.

But I don't care a whole lot for the looks of some of the lower models.

Chevy's silverado is great too, but just a bit older and bit outclassed. Just wait for the next gen.

But for me, if I had to rate in order of what I'd own it would be: 1) Dodge Ram. 2)Ford F-150 3) Chevy Silverado.

I just love them new Dodge trucks...great looking on the outside, beautiful interior, and plenty of power. Can't beat that trio. If the Camaro had not came out, I'd likely own a new gen Ram

Went to look at the dodge trucks a few weeks ago. You will notice things like trim pieces missing that the Silverado has and cheap parts like the radiator cover piece being a card board like material. The truck styling looks great, but quality isn't there.

[Toyaholic]

Originally Posted by Berean

I have an 07 Sierra classic. The new body style with the exaggerated fender flairs and jacked up rear suspension looks pretty lame.

That's why I did this to it........

[IBM]

Originally Posted by HookemHorns

My Dad has 268,000 on his 1987 Ford F-150, so what is your point?

I think he was just telling us his mileage... nothing to get all defensive about.

Originally Posted by Black GT

Did you ever own one of these?

Recently traded in a 2006 GMC Denali, biggest piece of shit I ever owned.

Care to specify exactly what was wrong?

Originally Posted by shank0668

Just curious if ford fixed their paint issues, our old expedition had paint that always bubble/ pealed on the hood, and we looked at a newer one that did the same.

My dad's 02 explorer was the same way, bubbles and rust all over the hood and front fascia.
EDIT: not to mention the inevitable crack on the rear window panel that all explorers of that age seemed to have gotten...

[Black GT]

Originally Posted by IBM

Care to specify exactly what was wrong?

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GMC Denali 2006

List in order
1) tailgate latch handle broke
2)EGR valve
3)leather on center console peeling
4)air shocks leaking
5)EGR valve (2nd time replace)
6) motor for air shocks
7) air intake fell off
8)Check engine light was on constantly for the last 6 months I had the vehicle.
9) navigation system wasn't worth a crap from the start.



All this in less than 80,000 miles.

[BackinBlackSS/RS]

Originally Posted by HookemHorns

A friend just purchased a new Ford F-150 Platinum Edition and that truck rocks! Sorry folks but my Silverado can't hold a light to this truck.

In your opinion. See, opinions are like aholes. Everyone has one and speaks as though it is fact, when in fact it is only their opinion. Thus, not making it right or wrong, just an opinion. Just sayin.

[IBM]

Originally Posted by Black GT

GMC Denali 2006

List in order
1) tailgate latch handle broke
2)EGR valve
3)leather on center console peeling
4)air shocks leaking
5)EGR valve (2nd time replace)
6) motor for air shocks
7) air intake fell off
8)Check engine light was on constantly for the last 6 months I had the vehicle.
9) navigation system wasn't worth a crap from the start.


All this in less than 80,000 miles.

Lemon?

[1BADZL1]

Originally Posted by mikeSS

i was just about to say

I agree....
Drugs are bad mmmmm kay??