Obama takes on Nascar. - Page 2

sean_99_3.8 · 03-31-2009, 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Blur

That's a pretty reckless policy. I understand that it comes from a well-researched standard, but the panel is not in a position to criticize advertising methods, like product placement. That's just micromanaging because they can.

dude.... its april 1st/march 31

ArcAngel · 03-31-2009, 11:13 PM

if this isnt april fools WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

*The_Blur* · 03-31-2009, 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sean_99_3.8

dude.... its april 1st/march 31

It is believable, which is scary.

I'm hoping that you guys are all contacting your elected officials, reminding them to repeal CAFE.

rmyers · 03-31-2009, 11:17 PM

So this is "deemed unnecessary" from an Auto Taskforce that doesn't have a clue about building a car, reporting to a president..."the teleprompter in-chief" that doesn't have a clue about running anything much less a country.

dvredc6427 · 03-31-2009, 11:20 PM

Big mistake President Obama. Just like the space program who many say and have said we spend to much on don't have all the facts or see the larger picture. The benefits we all have received are astounding and show up my the hundreds for us all daily. Racing programs are no different and the fuel efficiency, longevity, durability, handling, tire improvements......and YES safety come directly from racing programs. It's not as simple as saying it's about "selling on Monday based on what won on Sunday". Nothing makes me more upset than the money, my taxes, being thrown at mortgage companies, financial instatutions and even the car companies. GM's in trouble because of getting themselves to the point where they spend more daily on things like benefits for their retired executives and workers than they do on actually making cars & trucks - not because they sponsor racing efforts. Businesses fail because of bad management from the top - period. We all need to be VERY careful with just how much power and control we want any President of ours to have. It's one thing for our President to want to help the economy and have control of where money is spent when it's our tax dollars on loan to them but be careful for what we ask for. We don't want our government controlling EVERY aspect of private businesses or we will be in a world of hurt compared to how things are now. To a great extent we need to let the good businesses that are well managed continue and prosper and let the poor managed businesses receive the reality of their poor efforts and fail. That's how America was built and is needs to remain that way.

On a seperate note, it would be nice to see our government come out with an announcement that tells all Americans that the government has found a way to SAVE money by cutting THEIR own expenses immediately or in 60 days like they want the car companies to do. Anyone hear about the voluntary pay cuts congress, the house etc are taking? Me either. How about what it costs for Obama to go on the Tonight Show? Do some research into the millions it costs for every trip a President takes - two Air Force One's flying, crews, special cars, food, staff, secrete service, security etc...... Time for our government to step up and lead by example.

*Milk 1027* · 03-31-2009, 11:26 PM

you guys are so gullible it's actually entertaining.

camaro5 · 03-31-2009, 11:42 PM

There's only ONE source for this, so it's looking more and more like

Anybody who watches the news, knows this isn't impossible though...

As a NASCAR fan, I may be a little more gullible on this topic. Kiss my

*TAG UR IT* · 03-31-2009, 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dvredc6427

Big mistake President Obama. Just like the space program who many say and have said we spend to much on don't have all the facts or see the larger picture. The benefits we all have received are astounding and show up my the hundreds for us all daily. Racing programs are no different and the fuel efficiency, longevity, durability, handling, tire improvements......and YES safety come directly from racing programs. It's not as simple as saying it's about "selling on Monday based on what won on Sunday". Nothing makes me more upset than the money, my taxes, being thrown at mortgage companies, financial instatutions and even the car companies. GM's in trouble because of getting themselves to the point where they spend more daily on things like benefits for their retired executives and workers than they do on actually making cars & trucks - not because they sponsor racing efforts. Businesses fail because of bad management from the top - period. We all need to be VERY careful with just how much power and control we want any President of ours to have. It's one thing for our President to want to help the economy and have control of where money is spent when it's our tax dollars on loan to them but be careful for what we ask for. We don't want our government controlling EVERY aspect of private businesses or we will be in a world of hurt compared to how things are now. To a great extent we need to let the good businesses that are well managed continue and prosper and let the poor managed businesses receive the reality of their poor efforts and fail. That's how America was built and is needs to remain that way.

On a seperate note, it would be nice to see our government come out with an announcement that tells all Americans that the government has found a way to SAVE money by cutting THEIR own expenses immediately or in 60 days like they want the car companies to do. Anyone hear about the voluntary pay cuts congress, the house etc are taking? Me either. How about what it costs for Obama to go on the Tonight Show? Do some research into the millions it costs for every trip a President takes - two Air Force One's flying, crews, special cars, food, staff, secrete service, security etc...... Time for our government to step up and lead by example.

This man has got some smarts!

and if something like this were to happen, oooooohhh....

But, GM does not have to take the money. And they better not. Not for bullsh!t like this. Man, this gov't can get screwed up pretty easily.

Rallysport · 04-01-2009, 12:58 AM

April Fools Day joke or not, I can believe that the "messiah' would direct GM and Chrysler out of nascar...wouldn't freakin surprise me a bit. I hope he does...that will cost these jackasses some votes.

manimsoblack · 04-01-2009, 02:16 AM

bye rmyers

*Milk 1027* · 04-01-2009, 02:23 AM

all that for an April fools joke?

PQ · 04-01-2009, 02:34 AM

USA Today on my iPhone confirms.

Zhawk · 04-01-2009, 08:53 AM

Sorry about the change in topic everyone...

Now back to the original topic.

If this is true

I am really going to watch carefully to see what news is still out there on the 2nd.

fdjizm · 04-01-2009, 09:07 AM

this makes sense to me, why allow the people u gave money to, to spend 250mil on nascar?

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03-31-2009, 11:26 PM	#20
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03-31-2009, 11:42 PM	#21
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04-01-2009, 12:58 AM	#23
Rallysport Go Cardinals! Drives: 2010 Camaro 1SS 6-speed #1879 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 856 View My Garage	April Fools Day joke or not, I can believe that the "messiah' would direct GM and Chrysler out of nascar...wouldn't freakin surprise me a bit. I hope he does...that will cost these jackasses some votes. __________________

03-31-2009, 11:20 PM	#19
dvredc6427 Drives: 08 Z06 427, 03 BMW M5, 04 SSR Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: IL Posts: 7	Big mistake President Obama. Just like the space program who many say and have said we spend to much on don't have all the facts or see the larger picture. The benefits we all have received are astounding and show up my the hundreds for us all daily. Racing programs are no different and the fuel efficiency, longevity, durability, handling, tire improvements......and YES safety come directly from racing programs. It's not as simple as saying it's about "selling on Monday based on what won on Sunday". Nothing makes me more upset than the money, my taxes, being thrown at mortgage companies, financial instatutions and even the car companies. GM's in trouble because of getting themselves to the point where they spend more daily on things like benefits for their retired executives and workers than they do on actually making cars & trucks - not because they sponsor racing efforts. Businesses fail because of bad management from the top - period. We all need to be VERY careful with just how much power and control we want any President of ours to have. It's one thing for our President to want to help the economy and have control of where money is spent when it's our tax dollars on loan to them but be careful for what we ask for. We don't want our government controlling EVERY aspect of private businesses or we will be in a world of hurt compared to how things are now. To a great extent we need to let the good businesses that are well managed continue and prosper and let the poor managed businesses receive the reality of their poor efforts and fail. That's how America was built and is needs to remain that way. On a seperate note, it would be nice to see our government come out with an announcement that tells all Americans that the government has found a way to SAVE money by cutting THEIR own expenses immediately or in 60 days like they want the car companies to do. Anyone hear about the voluntary pay cuts congress, the house etc are taking? Me either. How about what it costs for Obama to go on the Tonight Show? Do some research into the millions it costs for every trip a President takes - two Air Force One's flying, crews, special cars, food, staff, secrete service, security etc...... Time for our government to step up and lead by example.

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Zhawk Iroc's Love Slave Drives: 3 Camaros, 1 Vette, a Buick, & a 57 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Lost Posts: 311 View My Garage	Sorry about the change in topic everyone... Now back to the original topic. If this is true I am really going to watch carefully to see what news is still out there on the 2nd. __________________ Camaros:87 IROC-z, 95 Z/28, 2010 RS/SS Corvettes: 90 Vert Has anyone seen my sanity? I am hiding from it and don't want it sneaking up on me!

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