Street Racers Impounded in B.C. 2 million $

[helmincamaro]

Originally Posted by CamaroSpike23

no camaros? lmao

camaro's got away... all that other stuff was too slow

[bossbunny]

Originally Posted by helmincamaro

camaro's got away... all that other stuff was too slow

[ROBOSSRS]

Originally Posted by helmincamaro

camaro's got away... all that other stuff was too slow

That's what I was thinking.

[tadams72]

Originally Posted by Apex Paul

I'm amazed that the article says that the cars may be seized permanently. No way that happens in the USA. The report says that the officers pulled them over after receiving complaints of them speeding. Ummmm... So if i call the police and say you were speeding then you can impound the car? I don't think so. Where is the proof? How did they judge the speed, do people in BC ride around with their own radar guns? Ridiculous.

I'm not approving street racing, but I don't approve of government run amok, either.

Not true about the permanent impound Paul. There are a lot of municipalities that do just that and then crush the cars. It's legal and it happens. Not for government intrusion, but also not for idiots on the street possibly plowing into me with my family in the car and killing someone. Extreme measures caused by extreme circumstances.

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by Apex Paul

I'm amazed that the article says that the cars may be seized permanently. No way that happens in the USA. The report says that the officers pulled them over after receiving complaints of them speeding. Ummmm... So if i call the police and say you were speeding then you can impound the car? I don't think so. Where is the proof? How did they judge the speed, do people in BC ride around with their own radar guns? Ridiculous.

I'm not approving street racing, but I don't approve of government run amok, either.

If you are driving at or over the limit & another car passes you ... it's impossible for the other car to not be speeding. Will the cops act on a single report? Probably not. But when 13 exotics do it on a busy highway in the middle of the afternoon in one of the largest cities in North America, I bet there were dozens of reports echoing the same thing. Thats more than enough justification to send a bunch of cruisers to the area & stop them before they kill somebody.

Also, the cars weren't impounded for speeding per se, but for street racing. They will only be seized permanently if the cops can gather enough evidence to charge them with dangerous driving. Otherwise, these kids will get a slap on the wrist ($196 fine), pay the 1 week impound fee (no clue what that would be) and they'll be free to take their car home and go out and do it again next week.

[camaroitalia]

damn must be nice to be 18 and have a lambo lol
i know if i got caught doing something like that i would never do it again.

[Ladybugsmom]

I'll take the R8 if they put them up for auction, thank you.

[20Camaro11]

I did a quick search and didn't see this article posted. Some pretty sweet cars involved but damn, the fact that alll the racers were under 21 should scare the shit out of people in that city. This is not encouraging street racing or an endorsement of asinine and moronic behavior.

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/09/02...iref=allsearch

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by 20Camaro11

I did a quick search and didn't see this article posted. Some pretty sweet cars involved but damn, the fact that alll the racers were under 21 should scare the shit out of people in that city. This is not encouraging street racing or an endorsement of asinine and moronic behavior.

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/09/02...iref=allsearch

It had been posted before, but I forgot to move it to Gen Auto

[upflying]

Originally Posted by Apex Paul

I'm amazed that the article says that the cars may be seized permanently. No way that happens in the USA. The report says that the officers pulled them over after receiving complaints of them speeding. Ummmm... So if i call the police and say you were speeding then you can impound the car? I don't think so. Where is the proof? How did they judge the speed, do people in BC ride around with their own radar guns? Ridiculous.

I'm not approving street racing, but I don't approve of government run amok, either.

Actually permanent seizure and destruction of street racers does occur in Peoples Republik of Kaliforniastan.

[Jas29]

Being from close to where it happened a lot of those kids parents don't even live in b.c and buying those cars for their kids isn't a big deal for them, the kid with r8s parents drive a ferrari and a porshe both architects in Vancouver.
The police also went through video footage on part of the highway and no evidence of speeding was found

[Jas29]

Sports car seizures 'a deep reversal of important rights'

B.C.'s civil liberties watchdog is slamming the possible forfeiture of five high-end sports cars involved in a youth street race last week.

Thirteen young drivers, who are all under the age of 21, were caught racing at speeds of up to 200 kilometres per hour near the Massey Tunnel on Aug. 31.

Mounties aren't recommending any criminal charges, but the Civil Forfeiture Office will pursue the seizure of a handful of the cars.

Micheal Vonn, policy director for the BC Civil Liberties Association, says that response is wildly disproportionate to the offence, especially when none of the young drivers has been charged with a crime.

"This is just an end run around the criminal process," she told ctvbc.ca.

"There's a reason why we don't charge people $1 million for jaywalking. We expect a court to make a fair assessment of what is due in terms of violation or offence."

A baker's dozen of luxury cars -- including Ferraris, Maseratis, Lamborghinis, Mercedes, Aston Martins and Audis -- were seized in Surrey and White Rock in connection to the street race. The vehicles were returned to the young people Thursday after a seven-day impoundment.

Each of the drivers has been issued a $196 ticket for driving without reasonable consideration, but police say there just isn't enough evidence to recommend charges.

"With the criminal avenue closed to us, we decided to see if there was enough evidence to proceed civilly," RCMP Supt. Norm Gaumont said in a release Thursday.

Solicitor General Shirley Bond says that the civil forfeiture office has determined there is enough evidence to file civil claims concerning five of the vehicles.

"We expect people to behave responsibly on the highways," she told reporters.

"I think it's important to send a very strong message that this kind of behaviour is not going to be tolerated."

Bond says the government is trying to protect public safety through the forfeiture action, and promises that the cars' owners will have a fair shake in court.

BCCLA ‘caught off guard' by forfeitures

Vonn says this marks the latest in a series of troubling examples of forfeiture claims made by the B.C. government.

"We've seen a real pile-up here in scenarios in which we've been caught off guard," she said.

Earlier this week, the B.C. Supreme Court ruled that the government can go ahead with its lawsuit seeking to seize a former grow-op home on Vancouver Island, even though the house's owner was acquitted of all drug charges against him.

And in February, a judge approved the seizure of two East Vancouver properties worth almost $1 million, although the homes' owner was never charged and wasn't aware that his tenants were operating sophisticated grow-ops inside.

"Is a $1-million fine appropriate for failing to know what your tenants were doing?" Vonn asked

"This is a deep reversal of some very important rights of all citizens."

Von says the B.C. public was misinformed when the government brought in legislation allowing civil forfeitures. She says the understanding was that the law would allow the government to seize the proceeds of organized crime.

"When this law was brought in we were told ... this would be all about gangs," she said. "[These recent cases are] not what people think about at all when they think about the fruits of crime."

She points out that the criminal justice system does allow for seizures of property connected to crime -- as long as the accused person has been found guilty.

"We're not opposed to the idea of criminal forfeitures," Vonn said. "There's no civil right to maintain the fruits of crime."

But the civil justice system requires a different standard of proof entirely, and the criminal benchmark of "beyond a reasonable doubt" doesn't come into play. And unlike in criminal cases, people involved in civil lawsuits do not have the right to legal aid.

B.C.'s law on civil forfeiture has been tested in the Supreme Court of Canada, Vonn says, but that case only asked whether it's appropriate for the province to make seizures when criminal law is a federal matter.

But she says that if the BCCLA sees a good opportunity to test the law again based on what it sees as misuses of power, it will consider taking the province to court.

The B.C. government says that the profits made from civil forfeitures go towards supporting victims of crime.

http://www.ctvbc.ctv.ca/servlet/an/l...shColumbiaHome

all the drivers got 6 points so the ones that are still new drivers will lose their licenses for at least 6 months