HOT lap - 2012 Z06

[Rogan]

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[SleepWarz]

Such an amazing sounding car.

[DGthe3]

Currently holds their fastest lap in this years round of testing (possibly in all their testing ... I can't find 2010 for some reason). A bunch of exotics are around the 1:36 mark this year. And the Mustang Boss 302 Laguna Seca some 5 seconds slower than them, which is strange because I remember hearing several people claiming that the the Boss was faster than a Z06.

[lil_chef]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

Currently holds their fastest lap in this years round of testing (possibly in all their testing ... I can't find 2010 for some reason). A bunch of exotics are around the 1:36 mark this year. And the Mustang Boss 302 Laguna Seca some 5 seconds slower than them, which is strange because I remember hearing several people claiming that the the Boss was faster than a Z06.

when driven by Ford's driver the Boss DID record a time quicker than the 2005 Z06, which is entirely different from the Z06 they tested. new shocks and brakes then going from runflats to Pilot sport cup tires.

im sure you know that though.

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by lil_chef

when driven by Ford's driver the Boss DID record a time quicker than the 2005 Z06, which is entirely different from the Z06 they tested. new shocks and brakes then going from runflats to Pilot sport cup tires.

im sure you know that though.

And I'm sure you know that those changes in equipment are not worth nearly 7 seconds on track like Laguna Seca.

[lil_chef]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

And I'm sure you know that those changes in equipment are not worth nearly 7 seconds on track like Laguna Seca.

err i think the tires alone could account for more than 7 seconds. in my car switching tires accounted for 10 seconds around a 2 mile course. it is especially true with high powered cars being held back by their original tires.

that being said allow a Vette engineer to lap both Z06's and im sure we will see a significant improvement in both times. Probst only has 5 laps to get the best time possible out of these cars.

[sik68]

I'm really hoping Motortrend is doing the 2012 ZR1 with the Sport Cups as well...as of now the Z06 is showing 1.4 sec faster than pappa bear.

I also REALLY want to see the 2012 GT-R...I hate what the car represents but respect it dearly.

Existing Laguna Lap times FYI: http://www.motortrend.com/features/laguna_lap/

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by lil_chef

err i think the tires alone could account for more than 7 seconds. in my car switching tires accounted for 10 seconds around a 2 mile course. it is especially true with high powered cars being held back by their original tires.

that being said allow a Vette engineer to lap both Z06's and im sure we will see a significant improvement in both times. Probst only has 5 laps to get the best time possible out of these cars.

I remember hearing that on a track like LS, a great set of tires can help by about 2 seconds per lap over your average set of stockers. Why did you see a 10 second improvement at a similar track? I have no clue. Better track conditions, more confidence at the limits, knowing your car better, knowing the track better, any number of things.

I mean, by your logic, this Corvette should have lapped the Nurburgring at least 65 seconds faster than what the 2005 model ran, since supposedly tires can help it by 5 seconds per mile. Yeah .... not quite. Thats more than 3x higher than what actually happend. Of course, things don't scale linearly, but they should at least be in the same ball park, especially on two courses that are known to favour handling over power.

That said, I will agree that a GM ringer could have got a better time.

[assasinator]

i would personally like to see a MOSPORT or Donington -long comparison.


both tracks have off camber corners and high speeds as well as low speed mechanical grip. Mosport has a carousel.

[truth411]

Originally Posted by lil_chef

when driven by Ford's driver the Boss DID record a time quicker than the 2005 Z06, which is entirely different from the Z06 they tested. new shocks and brakes then going from runflats to Pilot sport cup tires.

im sure you know that though.

Hold on, don't the Laguna Seca Boss run on R-Compound tires? In any case those who were saying the boss mustang is faster around the track than a Z06 is in La La Land.

[91Z28350]

Car-gasmic!!! Man those cars are bad ass! Anyone else notice the metal looking grommets in the steering wheel rim? I haven't seen those before.

[lil_chef]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

I remember hearing that on a track like LS, a great set of tires can help by about 2 seconds per lap over your average set of stockers. Why did you see a 10 second improvement at a similar track? I have no clue. Better track conditions, more confidence at the limits, knowing your car better, knowing the track better, any number of things.

I mean, by your logic, this Corvette should have lapped the Nurburgring at least 65 seconds faster than what the 2005 model ran, since supposedly tires can help it by 5 seconds per mile. Yeah .... not quite. Thats more than 3x higher than what actually happend. Of course, things don't scale linearly, but they should at least be in the same ball park, especially on two courses that are known to favour handling over power.

That said, I will agree that a GM ringer could have got a better time.

well, of course there are other elements that will affect the lap time. an Issue with the Nurburgring is that stickier tires will also hurt you given the greater rolling resistance over the expansive straights that it has. not enough to discount 50 seconds but it will slow you down and make the tires "less helpful".

on a track like laguna seca there is a higher turn/straight ratio than the ring, so you could spend more time benefiting with the PSC over the runflats.

which track we are talking about could significantly affect the benefits of super sticky tires over mediocre tires. Keep in mind the Z06 saw more revisions than just tires. that could easily account for a significant amount of time

[lil_chef]

Originally Posted by truth411

Hold on, don't the Laguna Seca Boss run on R-Compound tires? In any case those who were saying the boss mustang is faster around the track than a Z06 is in La La Land.

the Base boss got something like a 1:40 and the LS got just below that. and yes they would be in lala land.

[chvyman]

I wonder how the 2012 camaro, with its new suspension, will fare?