R&T: FRPP 400hp Mustang GT tested! - Page 6

JJ#48Racing · 03-24-2009, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by eddiehaskell

http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....rticle_id=7635

Is it just me or does this 400hp Mustang seem slow compared to the Camaro?

Keep in mind the mustang and the camaro were tested on two different days at two different location, with possibly two different drivers. There's a lot of room for error there. Also, a 111mph trap speed is more in line with a 12.9-13.0 e.t. with good traction.

JJ#48Racing · 03-24-2009, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 1_2Many

Can the LS3 handle even a 5 psi boost? The Mustang has a 9.6:1 compression ratio whereas the Camaro has 10.7:1. It seems risky to boost on such high compression no?

I'm curious as to the streetability of the LS3 with the +50 hp hot cam. Surely this would be a cheaper option than a blower, but can this still be a daily driver?

Yes and LS3 can handle 5psi. And the hot cam isn't very aggressive compared to many aftermarket cams, it would still be a great daily driver.

nine1wing · 03-24-2009, 06:00 PM

You guys are idiots, with a couple bolt ons and 18in stock tires, my 06 mustang gt can run 13.40 and lower, I'm assuming the driver sucked or the actual time meant to say 12, not 13

porcupinekiller · 03-24-2009, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by nine1wing

You guys are idiots, with a couple bolt ons and 18in stock tires, my 06 mustang gt can run 13.40 and lower, I'm assuming the driver sucked or the actual time meant to say 12, not 13

Hey dude watch the name calling! We're guests on their forum, so they're allowed to be idiots if they want. Just keep it to yourself.

fdjizm · 03-24-2009, 08:12 PM

i havent called a name once, im so proud of myself, but i been called a few names it's cute

for me to have the power to get someone mad enough to call me a name awww *hugs* see i dont get mad thats the trick to the internet lol

fazm · 03-24-2009, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by eddiehaskell

And he ran 12.8 in a '98 Z28.

Watch out for those cammed Camaros....they'll be making 520+hp for very little money....

yup, i was just giving the other end of the extreme

and i doubt ill be seeing any 520hp camaros in the next couple months, but im betting quite a few 304 and 426hp ones.

im sitting about 500lbs lighter and 400-500hp depending on my tune, so i think ill be ok lol. (454rwhp/515rwtq is my highest tune, which is 500+ at the flywheel) so even if i did run into a 520hp camaro, i think i can handle my own lol

eddiehaskell · 03-24-2009, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by fazm

yup, i was just giving the other end of the extreme

and i doubt ill be seeing any 520hp camaros in the next couple months, but im betting quite a few 304 and 426hp ones.

The parts ready and waiting thanks to the Corvette guys sharing the same engine.

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im sitting about 500lbs lighter and 400-500hp depending on my tune, so i think ill be ok lol. (454rwhp/515rwtq is my highest tune, which is 500+ at the flywheel) so even if i did run into a 520hp camaro, i think i can handle my own lol

Sounds like a driver's race. Good luck!

fdjizm · 03-24-2009, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by fazm

yup, i was just giving the other end of the extreme

and i doubt ill be seeing any 520hp camaros in the next couple months, but im betting quite a few 304 and 426hp ones.

im sitting about 500lbs lighter and 400-500hp depending on my tune, so i think ill be ok lol. (454rwhp/515rwtq is my highest tune, which is 500+ at the flywheel) so even if i did run into a 520hp camaro, i think i can handle my own lol

you are running a 500hp v6? nice... talk about taking an engine to it's limits lol

you sir are brave!

Bocephus · 03-24-2009, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by fdjizm

you are running a 500hp v6? nice... talk about taking an engine to it's limits lol

you sir are brave!

Yes he is! The 4.0 can take a lot more than people think. Check out the mustangcollective timeslips section to see what's been done.

fazm · 03-25-2009, 01:21 AM

doesnt take too much, 12-14psi and some good gas.

of course the boost pressure has to be from this and not a s/c

as far as being a drivers race with a 520hp (flywheel hp) camaro, i really dont think so. on my race tune im conservatively at 490hp/570tq (that with less than a 10% drivetrain loss, so more like 515/590) and i tip the scales at 3300.

now if we are talking a 520rwhp camaro, ya thatd be a diff story lol.

with that being said, id rather have an SS. itd be nice not worrying about turning your transmission into mulch everytime you hit the gas like so

Xanthos · 03-25-2009, 02:40 AM

Not a bad job on that V6.

I test drove a STOCK V6 mustang and it felt like I was going to turn the transmission into mulch every time I hit the gas. My ex (who we were thinking about buying it for) even thought it was horrible, and she didn't actually drive it.

Personally, I'm shooting for somewhere between 350 and 375 whp with my 1LS camaro. 375 ideally, but I'll probably land somewhere closer to 350 until the warranty expires.
- Xanthos

Rock36 · 03-25-2009, 09:29 AM

A 400 bhp Mustang GT running 13.4 @ 108 mph is just plain slow. There is nothing more to it than that.

My Mustang is completely N/A and dynoed 308 rwhp which is about 350-355bhp, and I've already done a quicker run of 13.011 @ 105 mph (even better if corrected to sea level but the timeslip shows 13.011) off of a 1.8X 60ft time.

The point is if I can do that on my "weak" 350bhp, I could definitely crack 12s with another 50bhp on tap.

End of story.

fazm · 03-25-2009, 06:22 PM

i hate corrected to sea level runs. according to that my 12.03 @ 118.5 run where i snapped the trans would have been something like an 11.5 @ 122, which i know it wouldnt have done breaking the input shaft

Rock36 · 03-26-2009, 09:57 AM

True, but I know you are well aware of the effect of density altitude, even if the equations that correct to sea level are only approximations at best. Personally I'm just upset I am 0.01 seconds from a 12 second N/A timeslip.

Either way I still turned a full 4/10ths faster in the 1/4 mile with a non-blown version of the same car with at least a 50bhp deficit, and I'm no John Force at the track either.

03-25-2009, 02:40 AM	#81
Xanthos PWA Relapse Drives: Formerly-Stick Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 12,588 View My Garage	Not a bad job on that V6. I test drove a STOCK V6 mustang and it felt like I was going to turn the transmission into mulch every time I hit the gas. My ex (who we were thinking about buying it for) even thought it was horrible, and she didn't actually drive it. Personally, I'm shooting for somewhere between 350 and 375 whp with my 1LS camaro. 375 ideally, but I'll probably land somewhere closer to 350 until the warranty expires. - Xanthos __________________ 2017 1LT/RS A8 Hyper Blue Metallic

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03-24-2009, 06:00 PM	#73
nine1wing Drives: 2011 Camaro Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: wyoming, Michigan Posts: 59	You guys are idiots, with a couple bolt ons and 18in stock tires, my 06 mustang gt can run 13.40 and lower, I'm assuming the driver sucked or the actual time meant to say 12, not 13

03-24-2009, 08:12 PM	#75
fdjizm Account Suspended Drives: 2008 Mustang GT/CS Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,429 View My Garage	i havent called a name once, im so proud of myself, but i been called a few names it's cute for me to have the power to get someone mad enough to call me a name awww hugs see i dont get mad thats the trick to the internet lol

03-25-2009, 01:21 AM	#80
fazm Drives: ex-500hp v6 mustang Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: arizona Posts: 605	doesnt take too much, 12-14psi and some good gas. of course the boost pressure has to be from this and not a s/c as far as being a drivers race with a 520hp (flywheel hp) camaro, i really dont think so. on my race tune im conservatively at 490hp/570tq (that with less than a 10% drivetrain loss, so more like 515/590) and i tip the scales at 3300. now if we are talking a 520rwhp camaro, ya thatd be a diff story lol. with that being said, id rather have an SS. itd be nice not worrying about turning your transmission into mulch everytime you hit the gas like so

03-25-2009, 09:29 AM	#82
Rock36 I just like V8s Drives: 2007 Corvette Z06 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Stuttgart, Germany Posts: 919	A 400 bhp Mustang GT running 13.4 @ 108 mph is just plain slow. There is nothing more to it than that. My Mustang is completely N/A and dynoed 308 rwhp which is about 350-355bhp, and I've already done a quicker run of 13.011 @ 105 mph (even better if corrected to sea level but the timeslip shows 13.011) off of a 1.8X 60ft time. The point is if I can do that on my "weak" 350bhp, I could definitely crack 12s with another 50bhp on tap. End of story.

03-25-2009, 06:22 PM	#83
fazm Drives: ex-500hp v6 mustang Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: arizona Posts: 605	i hate corrected to sea level runs. according to that my 12.03 @ 118.5 run where i snapped the trans would have been something like an 11.5 @ 122, which i know it wouldnt have done breaking the input shaft

03-26-2009, 09:57 AM	#84
Rock36 I just like V8s Drives: 2007 Corvette Z06 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Stuttgart, Germany Posts: 919	True, but I know you are well aware of the effect of density altitude, even if the equations that correct to sea level are only approximations at best. Personally I'm just upset I am 0.01 seconds from a 12 second N/A timeslip. Either way I still turned a full 4/10ths faster in the 1/4 mile with a non-blown version of the same car with at least a 50bhp deficit, and I'm no John Force at the track either.